Legend of the Mists DEMO

[Moderator]

03:03, 28th Jun 2009
Linaze: Please use the Map Development forum for alpha maps. Only beta/finished maps are allowed in the map section.

 

[Kratos1987]

I forgot to mention, that there's a command for the inventory boxes
Simply type " follow" wjen they7 boxes are following to stop them, and " follow" again to make them start following again..


You will also notice the heroes wont have alot of spells, here is a list of the spell types i'd like and what is already there, if you can think of any awesome spells please let me know...

Harrison - Warrior
Hammer Throw - Single Stun
Ground Pound - AOE Slow
Adrenalin - Self Attack rate
????? - Curse ?????
????? - Assist ?????
Chaotic Ripple - Ultimate ????? (Not Made)

Marina - Cleric
Heal - Single Heal
Healing Circle - AOE Heal
Revive - Self Self Revive upon death (cooldown)
Speed Boost - Assist Attack/Movement speed
Armor Ruster - Curse Lower Defence
????? - Ultimate ?????

Jade - Swordsman

Shadow Strike - Single Adds poison
Blade Force - AOE Damage
Counter - Self counter damage taken
????? - Assist ?????
????? - Curse ?????
????? - Ultimate ?????


Sigfrid - Mage

Lghtnng FngrTps - AOE Instant strikes
????? - Single ?????
????? - Self ?????
????? - Assist ?????
????? - Curse ?????
????? - Ultimate ?????

 

[Zelda.Alex]

Legend of the Mists DEMO v1.0

1.....Typo in the loading screen
2.....In the sentence in which is said "they had good reason for abandoning" the last sentence has typo
3.....Good Music. It is creating good effect
4.....That much story is good by method of cinematic. Watch this cinematic. It tells nicely how to relieve memories Sect of the Holy Mother 2 - The Hive Workshop - A Warcraft III Modding Site
5.....Box following?
6.....The movement speed is too slow.
7.....Choose a different icon for the warrior
8.....On top of anti-cheat taker what are the numbers appearing?
9.....The quest menu shows some bonuses. What are these? Some in-game info needed.
10.....I did not try to skip the initial dialogue but hope that it can be skipped
11.....Typo in quest menu
12.....How does the mana regenerate? It is not happening when i attack creeps. I noticed that it is healing with time. Slow rate.
13.....Haven't you given too much of the story on the loading screen?
14.....Some way to heal myself. The regeneration rate is low & i want to have the potions with me for dire situations which may be present. Waiting for healing will get too boring.
15.....Why is the gold bank visible to me?
16.....Choose some different model for the bank. The mine looks too odd.
17.....Place the Book of Earth at a better place. For some time i did not even notice it.
18.....The message appearing is return to the Earth Guardian. What returning? I have not even met with him yet.
19.....A simple North or South to tell which way is the forest will save from wandering around & fighting the creeps which nearly took my HP to zero. Then luckily one of them dropped a potion.
20.....When i level up then i get one point which i cannot use as i already have 2 skills.
21.....You said heroes. What heroes? I had just one - the warrior.
22.....The name of thread & the file does not match. Mention in the thread name the version too

Try this spell : http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/resource.php?t=116809

For spell ideas try idea factory in Map Development section.

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The Legend of Mists
1.....I used the book of experience & went from the level2 to level4 but i had the choice of the attribute bonus for only one time.
2.....I see that you have made leveling up much more easier than Tales campaign.
3.....You had meant that bear for a boss? I had went up to level5 when i attacked it & it was a piece of cake. The level5 status being a gift of The book of experience which made my experience go from near half of level2 to near end of level4.
4.....I cannot go South even after having the breakfast. Not complete yet? No message appeared this time.
5.....You created Harrison's house in the middle of forest according to the story. So i guess the areas to which i was able to go to were forest lands. Were they not? Now a well built road in the middle of a forest looks pretty odd. What do you think?
6.....On the road to the North for second main quest. The trees were placed in a near perfect line & the road was straight. Take care of these 2 things. It appeared quite odd for 254 AD.
7.....The town is odd. Buildings at the sides & none in the middle? Shops in the sides. You need much improvement.
8.....Now when i went up to the Earth Guardian then Harrison & the Guardian talked about the
book & said it was the book about which they had talked earlier which had not happened. They
also said that it was getting late while it was still around 7:30 according to the last message.
9.....The healing Priest does not heal me.
10.....Synthesis does not take any resource?
11.....Now here is some Major bug. I started playing hide & seek before selling the bear hide. Then i went to the inn. All the dialogues were mixed up & made no sense. Then a girl's
story started but still the dialogues were going on & on. What i am saying is that one problem is the dialogues & the major thing is that the incidents are all mixed up. I was supposed to sell the bear hide first & sleep at night (not at morning what happened).
12.....When i start to play hide & seek then the ! above the child does not go away.

So i do not get what went with Harrison & so i will continue with the girl now.

13.....Suddenly the dialogue had ended (without any wording being present, only the mouth
was moving) & a ! has appeared near Harrison's house.

 

[Kratos1987]

1..Typo in the loading screen? I dont see any
2..typo in opening cinematic? I dont see any
5..Box following, well think of it as an inventory, i can't find any good and eay to import inventory systems, so a basic box per hero fits well..
6..Movement starts off slow, but when you get more agility and cleric speed boost, you will move fast...
7..I know it's really hard to find a good icon for the warrior, i'll need to look one up.
8.. That is damage the anti cheat taker is taking,if the anti cheat dies, you get caught cheating
9..if you look closely at equipment items, you'll see the abilities of that item, this quest screen will tell you what each one does!! (i think it's very creative)
10..I will admit i did attempt the skip cinematic, however i only got it half working, the cinematic still played in the background but the player could continue playing. I'll have to look more closely to how blizzard made the trigger, i will try my best to make them skippable next update!!
11..first quest? found and fixed
12..mana does regenerate, it's only slow for the warrior and swordsman bcuz of their low intelligence, when leveling simply increase their intelligence for a faster regeneration, when you take control of Marina, you'll see that you'll take a long time to use up mana with only her healing spell!!!
13..You think so? what should i remove / replace?
14..you basically start with 3 light heal potions, in the chest at the house.. and you can buy them as soon as you reach Silverkin soon after killing the first boss! HINT: if you are about to level up, and you know will win before dying, let the level up heal you instead of wasting a potion...
15..the gold bank must be owned by the player to buy the upgrade. i'll try to remake it and see if i can make it so passive units will let the player to buy the upgrade.
16..what model did you have in mind for the gold bank?
17..hmm, ok. i'll change the location
18..yes you have, you talked to him after going to the inn
19..oops, forgot to add a ping, was this for the finding to kids or the books or both?
20..you'll have to wait until you reach a higher level to increase those skills, and when i give heroes more skills, you'll always have a point spendable
21..continue playing, you'll finish the demo with 3
22..oh, oops still learning i guess


Thanks for comments and slight errors, please continue being an awesome tester!!!

+rep (when i can)

 

[Zelda.Alex]

Write again. I edited my post to include some more.
For the typo see again.

9..if you look closely at equipment items, you'll see the abilities of that item, this quest screen will tell you what each one does!! (i think it's very creative)

Bit explanation please.

10..I will admit i did attempt the skip cinematic, however i only got it half working, the cinematic still played in the background but the player could continue playing. I'll have to look more closely to how blizzard made the trigger, i will try my best to make them skippable next update!!

Ask in world editor help zone. Many know & it will solve your problem easily.

13..You think so? what should i remove / replace?

You told that the guardians were under the control of Demon lord & i have to save them. It just told the whole thing.

16..what model did you have in mind for the gold bank?

Not any model in particular . A building perhaps? If i see a good one i will tell you.

18..yes you have, you talked to him after going to the inn

No i never did. I was in the forest & was still doing the first quest of the rabbits. Read my Edit.

19..oops, forgot to add a ping, was this for the finding to kids or the books or both?

I had said that for the rabbits. But soon i realised that i was in the forest & no ping was needed.

 

[Kratos1987]

1..how can you be so low level to get the book of exp after going to town and back?, unless you got lucky and a monster dropped one!!
2..yes, to begin with, later in game it takes a LOOONG time to level!
3..oh so you did get lucky and got a book of exp
4..no, you can;t go there until a little later. that way is complete
5..well, i guess you can be creative and think of ways how the path got there, but you'll see later when you continue playing
6..i'm a terrible terrainer
7.. same as 6
8..wait, hang on? you talked to the earth guardian before giving up the bear hide to the inn? if so, then OOPS!!
9..ahh, maye i should rename him. he revives any dead heroes you have, however sometimes a hero wont be allowed to die, eg, fighting a boss.
10..synthsizing potions are free, but equipment cost a small amount of gold
11..OH, i see, i guess you did talk to the earth guadian before the inn, but you need to have the earth book with harrison to turn that trigger on.. man i'm so confused :S
12..what the? it did for me each time i tested, it went away each time i did the quest!
13..that would be the end of a cinematic.. but now i am most confused.


I tested this map countless times, and never had that major problem


EDIT!!

With the bonuses quest tabs, each texxt on the left is the bonus name, and on the right what it does, now hover over an item, Hard leather Armor for example in the shop... you'll see "2 armor, HP Increase 1"
so this item will give you 2 armor, and 80 HP, use the bonus tabs as a guide for the item abilities

 

[bounty hunter2]

So what is your rating and vote Zelda?

You have one week to upload the resource creators names, else this is rejected.

 

[Zelda.Alex]

1..how can you be so low level to get the book of exp after going to town and back?, unless you got lucky and a monster dropped one!!

I think that you did not understand that. I never went to the town before getting the book. It was present there even before i completed the first quest.

3..oh so you did get lucky and got a book of exp

There was a book of exp lying hidden in a bush. What was the book there for?

6..i'm a terrible terrainer

For that i have to say you are not. Just a little improvement.

7.. same as 6

For that you need to look at this map Mystery Of Friza 1.6 - The Hive Workshop - A Warcraft III Modding Site
A map of Aeroblyctos. Look at the towns. It will help i hope.

That Major Bug annoyed me. Don't know why it never took place for you. Hope you find a solution.

You have one week to upload the resource creators names, else this is rejected.

Kratos1987 take care of this thing firstly. I don't want this map to be taken down but what bounty hunter2 told cannot be evaded without an upload of the credits. Also i will continue testing of the next version because i just don't get hold of the story now due to the bug i mentioned with the dialogues.

You have one week to upload the resource creators names, else this is rejected.

Just for my knowledge. Is that needed in the map file or the details given in the thread for avoiding rejection? I know that it should be present in both but in the present case which should be done firstly?

 

[bounty hunter2]

Rather in the map, but it's best in both.

 

[Kratos1987]

AHHH a week to make credits?, sadly you made that post the day i went to camp, and i have only just got back online since then and now its 6 days from when you said a week :S

I'll upload map with credits now!!!

 

[Ironside]

I like the map

 

[a7xpwns3]

23 Megabits? Oshi- thats big.

Heres mah review

Review - A7xpwns3
[+] Very Fun
[+] Has a storyline AND is an RPG
[-] Many typos
[-] Only a demo D:
[!] Rigged items, such as the Boosts. 1000 gold for 1 skill? Sell them, don't use them
[?] (None)

Could be improved in-
Terrain, but its ok now.
Tooltips/texts/cinematics. The cinematics REALLY need graphics.

Comments-
Very good map, would like to see a full version. By the way, item stacking doesn't work with full inventory D: Fix this please.

Overall
3/5 - A nice demo - Whens the full version coming out?

 

[Kratos1987]

to a7xpwns3-
thanks for your comment

many typos? please tell me them

1000 gold too much, ok i'll make it less

tooltips? what items have no tooltips?
I'm not great at making cinematics sadly...

I don't think it's possible to make item stack work with full inventory! But if you know ow please tell me

If all goes well, full version could be out by the end of the year, i work and study so i don't have alot of time to myself. Also, I can't think of many more skills for the heroes, if anyone have any ideas it'll help alot..

When playing did you find any bugs? Zelda.alex found a bug, but it doesnt seem to exist for me which is strange :S

 

[a7xpwns3]

I can help with the cinematics.
Well, with the typos, its somewhat late and I don't want to skim through it again, but there are lotsa typos in the...
Loading Screen
Cinematics
Item Tooltips

You didn't miss any item tooltips - the tooltips just had typos.
And no, I didn't find any bugs.

 

[Zelda.Alex]

Legend of the Mists DEMO as uploaded on 15th April

Till The Bear Boss
1....Although the box has stopped following me the present box can prove a bigger problem. You have made the box being able to move through any place. I can move it in the whole map anywhere I like. I don't know if it will be able to trigger anything but it will be an invulnerable scout for sure. The box is also able to go up Harrison's house's roof.
2....I found that the box will be able to trigger the bosses. I had killed the 3 rabbits & I moved the box near my house. It triggered the bear fight. Harrison was teleported from the rabbit to the house.
3.....You need to think about the time taken for healing while Harrison is in the forest. It may become boring for someone.
4.....The problem of the experience book leveling up 2 levels at a time leading to loss of 1 point is still present.
5.....On the loading screen it is written "by gather food"--should it not be gathering?
6.....The 3rd rabbit was near Harrison's house. I had a clear view of Harrison's house's door. The sudden appearance of the bear if possible should be made from the house. In the case I mentioned it may appear as if the bear has suddenly materialized before Harrison.
7......Make the cinematic skippable.
8......I had killed the bear & leveled up. Now when the cinematic has ended I cannot move Harrison & the map is stuck here. You can replace this bonus giving message by a book of Harrison which gives the choice for improvement of skills per level. Or you can think about something else because this problem will occur at most of the cinematic, I presume.
9......You do know how to hide things in the trees.

In the town till the girl comes
1......If I do not have the bear hide in my inventory I cannot talk to the children
2.....This time the dialogues going fine. Just for your note, I was able to go to the inn only after I had talked to the children but not completed the game with them.
3.....The Earth Guardian is directly saying that Harrison will save the world. Bit too much to tell a Boy that. Metaphor are always useful in such a case.
4......Just for your note. I haven't found the kids before finding the books & talking to the guardian.
5.....On the book of Earth it is written "Left Click to use" which does not work.
6.....The cinematic on which I go to the inn for sleeping at night starts even if I am at the side of the inn.
7.....I never found the kids & the girl's story has started.

Let me complete this once before you update. Then I will rate.

For Moderator
I cannot vote for approval due to major bugs but I am against this map's disapproval.

This is really nice. When you complete this I am sure it will get 4-5/5 even by the moderator.
Terrain needs work. Mainly in the city. Also avoid symmetry. Like the windmills around the town.
If you want help with Cinematic try to have opinions here.

I found this "For Those Just Beginning To Terrain...". It may be helpful if you want to improve your terrain skills.

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Till going from town
1.....You need to change the size of the inn. In the cinematic after they have slept looking at the size of those 2 & the inn I started wondering how did they even fit. Sorry if it seems weird but that was what I thought.
2.....When I go from the town to my house then I noticed that there was two trolls. When I had killed one of them earlier it had dropped a small axe. When I killed it this time it again dropped an axe. I tried again to see if it gave another one but the troll did not give.
3......I cannot place 2 weapons in a single box.
4......The synthesis shops become invisible if none of my units is near it. This does not happen with other shops.
5......A idea. Name every person in the town. It will give a variation compared to all the usual games. I know that it will take time but I think it will help in making this different.
6......I am really bad at hide & seek. I never found them in the town. Even at this point.

I will Edit this post when I play further.

 

[Kratos1987]

1.. Yes, i found that myself just the other day. I will have to make the box stationary with warp commands like my first campaign.
2.. will be fixed as told in 1
3.. healing? at the start you shouldnt come close to dying, you get 3 potions and also when you level you get fully healed, i see no need. I made it all the way to the town without healing once. Some tips for healing are, when you are about to level, and the monster looks like it'll lose, don't use a potion, when fighting the bear boss, make sure all skill cooldowns are finished, then give it yor all. after killing the bear you get fully healed (because you have breakfast). Also the heal priest heals when you are near it, so if you need quick healing, go to any town.
4.. That is impossible, I stopped the exp book from dropping until you kill Gombie and Zhoul, how can you get the exp at level 2. The exp book near harrison's house is invisible until you give up the bear hide at the inn. than bost the earth book and exp book become findable after the cinematic with the earth guardian (first time talking)
note on 4... so far it seems only you have this problem with the books near harrison's house are not even invisible!! but that doesnt seem right, because when the map starts up a made a trigger to make the required things (such as make things invisible) happen before you even see the first line of the starting cinematic.
5.. fixed
6.. where the rabbits walk is random. only way to fix this is to make a region near the rabbits and if they leave the region they walk back to the centre of that region.
7.. working on it
8.. hmm, guess i missed one all other bosses will let you level up when killing them. the cinematic won't start until all level up's are complete.
9.. in the trees? are you talking about the books near harrisons house?

1.. this problem is fixed, the reason most trigger didnt work was i had some not so trustable conditions for starting the trigger. they should all work now, but i gotta fix the bear boss trigger now, i forgot that one
2.. i have made the inn region smaller, also the reason the trigger turns on is when the hero is in the region, and then the trigger starts whrn a box enters, this is fixed however so just regard it
3.. got anything in mind? i'm bad at storylines. (seems like im bad at everything :S)
4.. i made another bug by making passive units who try to leave town to walk back to the centre. but now i have fixed this bug for this quest. next version it shouyld be completeable.
5.. oh, i should remove that...
6.. region is smaller now.
7.. next version you'll be able to complete, and after marina's side of the game, when you control harrison again, you'll be able to complete hide n seek..

Thanks again for your testing, this current version is completeable and you'll get a dialog when you reach the end of the demo asking if you want to continue or end playing. please also test monster strengths, see if they are too weak strong. but next version each hero will have at least 1 extra skill!!!

 

[Zelda.Alex]

4......The experience book was still present under a tree. I found it before beating the bear. Also I did not encounter any Gombie and Zhoul with Harrison. I am currently playing with Marina
9.......Yes I was talking about the book of experience under the tree.

3.......You can make the Earth Guardian say that "Fate has interesting twists in store for you." instead of saying that he will have to save the world one day. It gives away too much.

 

[Kratos1987]

4... Thats impossible, the book starts off invisible, there might be something wrong, not sure why it would appear visible for you and no-one else including me. have a look at the triggers yourself, with the map start up, you'll see that the book goes hidden, and becomes visible after talking to the earth guardian.. i can't see anything wrong with the triggers
3.. ok no probs

 

[Zelda.Alex]

Sorry I was not able to find out what could be the reason of the book of experience being visible before I fight the bear.

Killed the Bosses & just back to town
1.....Placing the firewall spell for the apprentice Wizard is useless. It has high cast time. In that time I can easily move away from its range & it does no damage to me. If you want that spell to be useful then you will have to pair the wizard with someone who can cast slow. I know Marina is slow but she needs to even slower to be hit with that spell. Also the wizard has to come near before he can cast the spell. It gives away a warning that he is about to cast.
2......You are using the treant in the forest near Harrison's house & here too? Use something else.
3......While I was fighting the 2 bosses I was able to get out of radius of the level 12 & then kill level 10 easily. Then killing level 12 was easy. My heroes were at level 7 each.

http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/resource.php?t=81516&prev=d=list&r=20
This map bears good news for you. In this map the items stack even if the inventory is full. Take a look.

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Till reaching the castle
1.....I can walk into the mountains on the left side
2.....I can walk into the castle walls o the right side
3.....If I walk into the castle & then come out the music still the castle music. I liked the music.
4.....I just remembered one thing. Harrison had found the book of earth. What happened to it? I had thought that I will learn the skill inside it when I get out of inn but I did not have the skill.
5.....Naming the guards as Guard 1 & 2 is not a good idea.

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Till defeating Jade
>>I can walk through synthesis shops
>>I get interest by the Gold bank. But hey on what? I do not store any gold then interest on what?
>>Defeating Jade was too easy. I used all there of Harrison's spells one time & then a small fight & he was defeated. Harrison was at level 12 when I fought Jade.
>>About the dialogues after I have defeated Jade there are a lot of dialogues but nothing to see & with no music with it. It wasn't quite interesting.
>>Marina was in air when she was attacked by the king.

 

[Kratos1987]

Sorry for not being online for a long time, i haven't had internet for 2-3 weeks. I will be uploading next version as soon as i have internet, sadly my computer has been playing up lately making editing hard as my computer freezes a lot of the time. in next version all heroes will have extra skills, and i hope to have all bugs fixed. thanks again zelda.alex for testing i will fix problems you have found.

EDIT:
Sorry that it has taken me a long time to update, having no internet in my new place is a huge pain, i have also been very busy so i haven't gotten that much done for a month, but it's enough to update.

All bugs should be fixed now, i still need ideas for spells for the heroes especially Jade who still only has 3/6
The game is now harder and is closer to being an online game with slower level ups allowing players to hunt more monsters while trying to find synthesis items and other item drops.

I have started making a monster list for all the monsters and bosses within the game, and will also begin making a games manual with hero information for building up your stats also well as item lists for all equipment and single use items such as potions and synthesis items.

If anyone has any ideas please let me know by posting a reply here or sending me a message.

Thanks for looking and hope you enjoy the demo!!!

 

[Zelda.Alex]

I have started making a monster list for all the monsters and bosses within the game, and will also begin making a games manual with hero information for building up your stats also well as item lists for all equipment and single use items such as potions and synthesis items.

Meaning a manual inside the map or outside in this thread?

 

[Kratos1987]

I'll write it up like as if it was a normal game you would buy from the shops, but players will be able to download it in PDF format