Jackal

[Moderator]

Frankster :
Very nice model and awesome textures.
Great stuff.
Approved.

 

[Fingolfin]

The jackal as it is seen in magos:

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[Chucky]

1189 pollies ? for just a unit ? you've got to be joking..

 

[Wimbo125]

I OMG'd srsly, I think it's great, brings back good memorys of the original X-Box, playing Halo and Halo 2

 

[Fingolfin]

1189 pollies ? for just a unit ? you've got to be joking..

That is triangles you are looking at, not polies. Besides, 1100 tris is not much, especially not by todays standards... for perspective, i can tell that for instance the wc3 Ghoul has 1035 tris.

 

[eubz]

If you want to create good looking models make it high poly.

 

[Marc Mamales]

This looks nice.. Good job

 

[Chucky]

This looks nice.. Good job

Strange cause it says "Poly Count"...

 

[Fingolfin]

If you want to create good looking models make it high poly.

Except it isn't even particularly high poly. There are many units in wc3 that have similar poly count to this (ObsidianStatue - 1737, Ghoul - 1035, CryptLord - 987, GoblinAlchemist - 1050, FireLord - 1036 etc). Hell, it isn't even half the polies of a standard SC2 model.

If it looks high poly: kudos to the 3ds max smooth modifier!



EDIT: @Chucky: "polygon" is not necessarily the same as a triangle/face, in cpu graphics, a square is often also counted towards a polygon even though it consists if two triangles (a polygon is technically just a two-dimensional surface with an indefinate ammount off edges).

Anyhow, displaying triangle/polygon count as a mean of model weight is not always very accurate. Imagine that you have a triangle, and want to make it a square, you really just need one more vertex for it. Essentially, for each new triangle you want to add to the same mesh, you only need one vertex still. This means that a group of standalone triangles have three times more vertices than a mesh consisting of the same ammount of connected triangles. This model has very little floating geometry and hence it has very few vertices.

 

[HappyCockroach]

1189 pollies ? for just a unit ? you've got to be joking..

what? bitching about 1189 polies?

you've got to be joking.




btw, this model is really awesome.

 

[wester]

10/5

 

[Dionesiist]

This would be pretty awesome if it weren't just copy-pasta.

 

[Chucky]

you're the bitch all right ? I didn't insult you so shut your face

 

[Crayons]

you're the bitch all right ? I didn't insult you so shut your face

my my. aint you intelligent?

 

[GhostThruster]

@Chucky: Go away. Right now.

@Fingolfin: This model is killtacular. Only thing is you could make his eyes more noticeable in the texture.

 

[HFR]

you're the bitch all right ? I didn't insult you so shut your face

Now, now, be a nice boy, go back to your bedroom and think about what you've done, or else there will be no candy today.


PS: This model is awesome.

 

[Steamer]

Amazing job! 5/5

 

[Chucky]

And if I don't then what ? You'll tell your mommy ?

 

[GhostThruster]

Guys....
finish the fight...
elsewhere.

 

[Fingolfin]

@Chucky: Go away. Right now.

@Fingolfin: This model is killtacular. Only thing is you could make his eyes more noticeable in the texture.

Frankly, i quite like the pale eyes, they make it look more like a vulture which i believe was the base concept for the jackal. If you want them more bright, then ofcourse it is a simple edit.

Thanks everyone for the nice responses!

 

[Crayons]

yes yes. we don't need bad posts here. shoo shoo.

 

[GhostThruster]

Well, they aren't very visible, especially in Wc3 birds eye view. I don't mind the eye colour, just darken the outline of the eyeball and maybe the pupil.

 

[Fingolfin]

Ok, perhaps you're right, i will consider it.

 

[Aztec_devil2000]

Wow this is an amazing model, .

But would their be an animation where there is no shield? Because the shield does get destroyed at some point...

 

[RiotZ]

Fuck this is too awesome. 5\5.

 

[Fingolfin]

Wow this is an amazing model, .

But would their be an animation where there is no shield? Because the shield does get destroyed at some point...

That is why both the shield and weapons are attachments, you can add or remove them whenever you want. The shield will automatically die when the jackal does, also.

I posted instructions on how to attach the shield in it's thread.

 

[-Peper-]

This is .... Too imba.
Lol it actually looked like 3000 polies in the screenshot.

 

[Ken-E]

Awesome, there isn't anything more to say.

 

[Hell_Raider]

woah, this is just awesome!

 

[Wazzz]

about time you made another halo model

now finish them
finish ALL of them!

 

[IronTaker56]

looks like halo

 

[varsaigen]

Great! My favorite Covenant unit ever! (aside from the Skirmisher subspecies) Only thing I find odd is the face, and those eyes. But noting the Halo 1 Jackal, this looks better, and wrcraft textures can be a pain to work with, detail-wise. So, well done!

Go jackals :3

 

[Wazzz]

looks like halo

oh hey that's true i guess i kinda does

 

[Lungdrache]

Please which texture have you use?

 

[Fingolfin]

What do you mean?
Textures were made by me.

Or perhaps you mean ground tile?

 

[Khanh]

Can you add some "Grenade jump" animation?

 

[Fingolfin]

You mean for when it dodges grenades?

 

[boomwolf]

I dont think the WC3 AI core or pathfinding system is in any way able to reproduce that anyway...

 

[Fingolfin]

Is that a challenge?

No, but seriously, it can be done. You gotta know some jass though.

EDIT: I would personally do it using a knockback system. Assuming that you have triggered the plasma grenade spell, just pick all units within it's blast radius the moment it lands (the grenade will take a couple of seconds to blow), and if (random chance = 75%) then knock them back from the grenade and play the animation where they throw themselves (you would have to turn the model so that it faces the right direction).

 

[RiotZ]

Is that a challenge?

No, but seriously, it can be done. You gotta know some jass though.

EDIT: I would personally do it using a knockback system. Assuming that you have triggered the plasma grenade spell, just pick all units within it's blast radius the moment it lands (the grenade will take a couple of seconds to blow), and if (random chance = 75%) then knock them back from the grenade and play the animation where they throw themselves (you would have to turn the model so that it faces the right direction).

That's a pretty damn good idea.

 

[Khanh]

You mean for when it dodges grenades?

Yeah, and the animation when it dodges bullets in combat too.

 

[varsaigen]

Which, unfortunately, leads to a lot of suicides from bridges. :/

 

[kellym0]

perhaps a summer-salt roll, forward, i cant spell =/

tucks its elbows in bends strait forward, arms down, knees together, bends its head down, dos a forward facing back roll, might be universal uses.

AND to counter bridge suicides, if they enter a region or within distance around a point they loose that 75% chance to dodge or what ever.

this models amazing.

9.5/10 (nothing is a 10) but this is close, somthing funky about the walk animation

but enough scrutiny! every body! get the porcupine guns and start shootin them purpley pink glass thingys!

 

[Fingolfin]

Well, since ther knockback system i use checks pathing, rolling off bridges is not a problem (i believe varsaigen was refering to the real halo games). But yes, i will implement some kind of roll animation sooner or later, not to mention i will make a model for the sniper helmet

 

[varsaigen]

Well, since ther knockback system i use checks pathing, rolling off bridges is not a problem (i believe varsaigen was refering to the real halo games). But yes, i will implement some kind of roll animation sooner or later, not to mention i will make a model for the sniper helmet

You'd be right on what I was referring to. It's one of the tactics to clear jackals and Elites from bridges. XD

But yeah, beautiful model. I look forward to further editions.

 

[ChrisButton]

Simply amazing. Such a great series.

 

[Hell_Raider]

Woah this is amazing! Are you going to make a grunt and Elite one?

 

[Glitch64-Bitz]

How do I change the weapon of a unit?