{Important thread} JASScraft??

[Foronisus]

Guys i readed tutorial for Jass and its saying its good to have JASScraft where can i download it?? someone can give me link???

 

[Bannar]

I don't know why Wc3c link for jasscraft doesn't open for me - it's main site at which JC was hosted.
However, here you have jc anyways

 

[Foronisus]

you know i better get to GUI i dont understand nothing in JASS

 

[Bannar]

Go to Tutotials section -> Jass/AI scripts there are few jass tutorials, I recommend wyrmlord's and Dealin's ones. Man jass is easier than GUI, trust me. I have been with GUI for 4-5 years, learnt jass at the begining of July. Yes, just one month. Surely I don't know all the tricks and still have some problems from time to time, but at least I'm doing all the triggers I have been doing in GUI in Jass now =)

 

[Foronisus]

yea i readed the one you recommended but still dont understand

 

[Bannar]

Start with simple triggers. Create one in GUI, then go Edit -> convert to custom text and try to make it look like proper jass spell (remove unneeded code, replace BJs with natives, use locals etc). Make sure you save a copy for that spell so you can always try again ^^. Personaly, after 3 spells converted from GUI to Jass this way I started jassing like in GUi before.

But if you never met any programing language before it may not be so easy. Yes, I've been programing about 2-3 years - if you want to ask.

 

[Foronisus]

ive never programmed and also i dont know too much in Gui thats why i dont understand Jass

 

[Nestharus]

Just use NewGen

 

[mckill2009]

I use Jasscraft for saving templates and to easy to copy+paste libraries...

 

[Miss_Foxy]

Hmm...
The tutorials might seem hard to understand at first, maybe trying to get help via the Hive Chat could prove to be a better alternative.
After all, that's how I learnt JASS, from some kind members who were willing to teach me, so yeah, I'm sure they'll explain it to you as well

 

[Foronisus]

Hmm...
The tutorials might seem hard to understand at first, maybe trying to get help via the Hive Chat could prove to be a better alternative.
After all, that's how I learnt JASS, from some kind members who were willing to teach me, so yeah, I'm sure they'll explain it to you as well

allready tried and no one writes to me

 

[baassee]

Don't learn JASS, learn vJASS directly a lot easier to read, code and all that stuff. Getting JASS will come along.

 

[Foronisus]

ok any tutorials for vJASS also what libraries mean and need for??

 

[baassee]

Learn by doing is better than reading bunch of tutorials (from my point of view).

 

[Foronisus]

how to learn when i dont know a single code

 

[baassee]

You look and compare to GUI.

 

[Foronisus]

i dont know too much Gui either but can you explain me whats library?? and for what we need libraries??? also pls give me tutorial if you have for vJass.

 

[baassee]

Then you should learn GUI first. It will make you get the basics a lot easier of JASS/vJASS. I never used a tutorial for vJASS (learning) so ...

 

[Foronisus]

as i said i just know Basics of GUI

 

[baassee]

Then learn advanced GUI (now what that means I have no idea).

 

[Foronisus]

ok than can you just tell me what are libraries for?

 

[baassee]

There are no libraries in GUI. In vJASS it puts the code into the map header thus making it easier for spells to use its functions (as an example).

 

[Crazed_seal2]

You don't need to learn what libraries are until you learn the basics of Jass/vJass.

 

[Foronisus]

auctually im not very good at coding.. Im more Hero maker/Terrainer now im improving my 2D art

 

[Crazed_seal2]

No one knows coding unless they learn it.

Simple stuff is like, functions, variables, control structures... ect.

 

[Adiktuz]

If you have NewGenWE, I don't think you'll need JassCraft anymore...

 

[Troll-Brain]

If you have NewGenWE, I don't think you'll need JassCraft anymore...

Personnaly i use both, though i use jasscraft "only" when i need to find a native jass function/constant or a blizzard one.
But it also can be useful to store your regular jass libraries, or even to write a "system" when you don't have wc3 installed.

 

[Adiktuz]

That's why I said if you have NewGen... I believe NewGen won't work if you don't have wc3 installed...

and newgen also has a list of jass natives/constants...

 

[Troll-Brain]

That's why I said if you have NewGen... I believe NewGen won't work if you don't have wc3 installed...

and newgen also has a list of jass natives/constants...

That doesn't change the fact that i'm using both the JNGP and jasscraft together at the same time, because for what i've said jasscraft is just much more comfortable to use than simply tesh, maybe the JNGP is enough for you, but not for me.
Ofc i could live without jasscraft but since this very nice tool exists i wouldn't see why i should ignore it.

 

[Adiktuz]

that's a matter of opinion, you like using both, I like using only JNGP... and its totally fine, its our own preferences... haha...

 

[Troll-Brain]

that's a matter of opinion, you like using both, I like using only JNGP... and its totally fine, its our own preferences... haha...

Using more "..." won't make your sentences better.

Sometimes it's useful to scroll down common.j/blizzard.j/common.ai/whatever.j, and jasscraft will highlight it correctly (excepted jass prepocessors ofc like vJass).

Also there is a bug with tesh, try to minimize a window instead of close it.

Jasscraft has more options for searching.

It's a fact that jasscraft is more comfortable to use for searching functions/constants, it's not an opinion.
I could say more things theses ones are just the ones which are in the top of my head.

Now again you could live without jasscraft (you do) but i really hate when people use mass "..." when it's not justified, nothing personnal.

End of the story for me.