How to turn off Spiked Carapace damage reflection?

[Makossj]

When I set it to 0.00, units still get 1.00 damage from attacked unit.

Is there another ability granting stackable % damage reduction?

 

[LordDz]

Why would you add it to the hero if you don't want it to work?

 

[Warseeker]

Is there another ability granting stackable % damage reduction?

Hardened Skin

 

[Makossj]

Hardened Skin has chance to block certain amount of damage.
I need fractional (%) damage reduction, like Spiked Carapace has. With 0 damage reflection.
@Warseeker
Are you sure?

 

[LordDz]

If you just need a % reduction of damage, just base it of ring of protection? Armor does reduce incoming damage by %.

 

[Makossj]

I need stackable % damage reduction, like in spiked carapace. Just without it's side effect of 1 magic damage per instance to the attacker.
Like I wrote in the 1st post.
And the 2nd post.
If anyone knows how to do it, please give me a map example.

 

[Tasyen]

Armor stacks and each point increases EHP vs attacks by ArmorFactor %.

Disclaimer: only works for positive armor values, negative uses a different equation.

one can observe that by using the armor equations:

Damage Reduction = (Armor * armorFaktor) / (1 + (Armor * ArmorFaktor))
Taken Damage = 1 - Damage Reduction
Effizent Hit Points Faktor = 1/Taken Damage

or 1 + Armor*ArmorFaktor​

type that in an office software and try different armor values. EHP increases for each armor exactly by armorfactor.

table result

Armor	Faktor	Damage Reduction	Taken Damage	EHP Faktor	HP	EHP (EHP Faktor x HP)
1	0,06	0,056603773584906	0,943396226415094	1,06	500	530
2	0,06	0,107142857142857	0,892857142857143	1,12	500	560
3	0,06	0,152542372881356	0,847457627118644	1,18	500	590
4	0,06	0,193548387096774	0,806451612903226	1,24	500	620
5	0,06	0,230769230769231	0,769230769230769	1,3	500	650
6	0,06	0,264705882352941	0,735294117647059	1,36	500	680
7	0,06	0,295774647887324	0,704225352112676	1,42	500	710
8	0,06	0,324324324324324	0,675675675675676	1,48	500	740
9	0,06	0,350649350649351	0,649350649350649	1,54	500	770
10	0,06	0,375	0,625	1,6	500	800
11	0,06	0,397590361445783	0,602409638554217	1,66	500	830
12	0,06	0,418604651162791	0,581395348837209	1,72	500	860
13	0,06	0,438202247191011	0,561797752808989	1,78	500	890
14	0,06	0,456521739130435	0,543478260869565	1,84	500	920
15	0,06	0,473684210526316	0,526315789473684	1,9	500	950
16	0,06	0,489795918367347	0,510204081632653	1,96	500	980
16 + 2/3	0,06	0,5	0,5	2	500	1000

Edit:

Notes:

Damage Reduction: damage the unit takes is multiplied by that factor. It is interresting in a real game situation to deal damage to targets one is effective against.

Taken Damage: Is the remaing damage after the reduction was subtracted.

EHP: amount of Hitpoints an Unit has against an specific damage Type calcing in damage reduction against that type. Cause EHP is Damage/AttackType specific, an unit has multiple EHPs.
In the example one uses no reduction by Attack vs Armor Type and only armor is counted.

 

[Juveqis]

I had this problem before, I solved it this way... I do not know if it will work for you.

("Es atacado" means "Is attacked")

 

[Makossj]

@Tasyen Thank you. It's so easy, so obvious ...
I just used Factor 0,01 for more precise control.

Let me write it for others:
For stackable fractional damage reduction with Armor Factor 0,01 you need:
Damage reduction - Armor per instance
10% - 11 Armor
20% - 25 Armor
30% - 42 Armor
40% - 66 Armor
50% - 100 Armor
60% - 150 Armor
70% - 233 Armor
80% - 400 Armor
90% - 900 Armor

@Juveqis I found this 'solution' too. But damage reflection deals 1 damage per every instance of spiked carapace. So for 2 items with it it deals 2 x 1.00 damage and healing 1.00 HP is not enough. What is more, magic resistance makes the attacker lose less than 1.00 HP, so you would actually heal him.
But you should heal the attacking unit. And not in "is attacked" but in "unit recives damage".

But the question remains:
Can damage reflection in spiked carapace be turned off?

Why?
To use the damage reduction only for melee normal attacks. Normal Armor works also for ranged attacks.