how can i get a custom unit to enter an entangled gold mine.

[andreasaspenberg]

the error message i get is that i need to select a wisp. i have added the custom unit to the new load ability and the new load ability to the mine.

 

[Ultimatony]

load ability?

You need Gather (Wisp Gold and Lumber)
and Classify it as a worker.

 

[andreasaspenberg]

the load ability specify what unit the mine loads. the unit is specified as a worker and it have a custom version of gather.

 

[Levdragon]

I'm fairly sure you have to go to the entangled gold mine "load wisp" spell and make sure you change the gathered worker unit from wisp to your custom worker unit. That should work. If all else fails, just directly change the data of the original wisp unit.

 

[andreasaspenberg]

i already changed the load wisp ability but that didnt help at all. the custom worker was created from the transport ship.

 

[Destroyer25]

Wouldn't it be easiest to change the model file of the existing wisp, or just make a new custom unit with the wisp as the base unit? That way all the necessary unit data for the unit to function is already there.

 

[Levdragon]

Well, why not just change the actual Wisp unit itself?

 

[andreasaspenberg]

the wisp already have the old purpose. each race have 1 water worker and 1 land worker. there is 2 types of mines: aquatic and regular. i want to keep the core gameplay of each race intact so therefore i need the night elf mining ship to work like the wisp.

 

[Adiktuz]

I think you can do some kinda trigger to mimic the way wisps go into gold mines...

 

[andreasaspenberg]

in that case maybe you could tell me how.

 

[Destroyer25]

the wisp already have the old purpose. each race have 1 water worker and 1 land worker. there is 2 types of mines: aquatic and regular. i want to keep the core gameplay of each race intact so therefore i need the night elf mining ship to work like the wisp.

So just make a new custom unit using the wisp as the base, then change the model file to a night elf ship, and then change the unit data so the wisp can sail on water.

 

[LordDz]

Can't open the editor atm, but I'm pretty sure you can order units to "right click" with the unit - issue order targeting a unit".

Can't you just order the new wisp to "right click" on the gold mine ?

 

[Bannar]

There is an order - "gather" - you can either use that via Issue Order Targeting A Unit (goldmine) or Issue Order Targeting A Destructible (wood):

• Unit - Order <unit> to Gather <goldmine/unit with gold source>
• Unit - Order <unit> to Gather <destructible/tree>

 

[andreasaspenberg]

right clicking on the mine cause an error message that say that the mine is already entangled. if there is a value that the wisp needs to enter an entangled mine the best way is to add it to the custom ship.

 

[Adiktuz]

First make sure that the ability you give the worker is the Gather (Wisp Gold and Lumber)

Then you need to edit the load wisp ability so that I will load the new worker, but doing so would also affect the normal entangled gold mines, so I suggest doing two versions of the entangled gold mine, one for land, one for sea... but you would need to trigger the entangling if you would do it this way such that if you entangle the sea mine, it will become the sea version....

then do a copy of the load wisp ability, make it load the worker instead of the wisp, and give it to the sea version of the entangled gold mine (replacing the default load wisp)

 

[andreasaspenberg]

i have done all of that. i didnt need a trigger for the entangling though. i just created a custom entangle gold mine ability for that. i had done that before i started this topic in fact.

 

[Adiktuz]

So you already made a custom gold mine too? what happened after that?

btw, have you also made a new Tree of life?

EDIT: tested it, it works for me, the units go inside and obtain resources the NightElf way though it says that gold mine is already entangled when you right-click...

 

[andreasaspenberg]

i created a ship for the purpose of entangling the mine. entangling isnt the problem though. the problem is that the mining ship doesnt enter the mine for some reason. to make it easier to help me solve the issue i am adding the map to this post.

 

[Adiktuz]

EDIT: tested it, it works for me, the units go inside and obtain resources the NightElf way though it says that gold mine is already entangled when you right-click...

What did I do?

1)Created a custom Tree of Life
2)Created a custom Wisp/Worker
3)Created a custom Entangled GM
4)Created a custom Entangle GM ability (which was given to the CToL)
5)Created a custom Load Wisp ability (which was given to the CEGM)

 

[andreasaspenberg]

please just look at my map to find the bug.

 

[Adiktuz]

this is just a hunch, but maybe because you used the real boat as the base unit? try basing it off a wisp... or as weird as it may be, becoz the mine is underwater?

 

[andreasaspenberg]

the mine is meant to be under the water. the ships of the other races can enter the mine without problems. i only have problems with the night elves. i believe that some person got it to work without using the wisp as a base. this problem is preventing me from finishing the alpha stages of the map so it is very important to fix.

 

[Adiktuz]

but there's no hurt in trying to make it based off a wisp doesn't it? its some weird bug so its better to try every possible method... especially when it works on my test map where the only difference we have is that I based the custom worker off the wisp... and the Tree of life based entangler too...

 

[andreasaspenberg]

the problem is that i will most likely just waste hours. entangling works perfectly as it is though.

 

[Adiktuz]

Hours? its just pretty fast to create one worker... and if you'll not exhaust all possibilities, you'll waste more hours... if you tried it out right when I said it, we would now already know if it works or not, if not, we would already be on track to find a new solution... which is way more productive than actually not trying it out just becoz you think its a waste of time...

seriously, just being hesitant to try it out already wasted a lot of your time... if you don't want to try our suggestions on how to fix it, why even ask for our help?

 

[andreasaspenberg]

creating a new unit and changing all values to match an old unit takes me hours. that is why my warcraft 3 rps project was dropped.(because added the ability to level up to all units takes a long time per unit.) the best course of action is to find the value the wisp have that the mining ship needs and add it to the mining ship.

 

[Adiktuz]

Trying a possible solution isn't a waste of time... also since you're on the troublshooting part, the adjustment of the other game elements should not be done right now (I mean adjustments with regards to changing the miner)... you only do it once the problem is solved... and if it just lies with a value that a wisp has that a boat doesn't I believe you should have already found it by now...

anyway, you asked for help, so we tried to give you possible solutions, so if you don't want to try them out, its your problem...

 

[andreasaspenberg]

i figured it out eventually. transported size was 0 that is why it couldnt enter the mine. i set it to 1 and then it worked.

 

[Adiktuz]

becoz Boats aren't supposed to be loaded...

anyway, if you just tried your best first to match the boat and the wisp, you wouldn't even have needed to open this thread... haha...

 

[andreasaspenberg]

bottom line is that i fixed the problem. another issue is that i want the mining ship to be able to entangle the mine but that doesnt work. i added the entangling ship as a workaround but i would prefer to use the mining ship instead. please help me with that.

 

[Adiktuz]

yeah,and if you just tried your best first to match the boat and the wisp, you wouldn't even have needed to open this thread... haha...

this...

anyway, that last statement of yours seem a pretty bit of saying that we are useless... its not a good way of ending a thread don't you think? especially when a lot of people tried to help you out...

 

[andreasaspenberg]

the people might have helped me think but in the end i found the solution. other times other people might find the solution. back to the other problem. how can i enable to the mining ship to root and entangle.(the abilities have already been added.)