Greeks and Undead v1.58 Second Hero

[Moderator]

17:19, 26th Jul 2013
Orcnet: map approved

 

[Daffa]

Make A Credit List "A Map without Credit List is always a Fail"


Also improve the description

 

[slayerby]

Make A Credit List "A Map without Credit List is always a Fail"


Also improve the description

i have now improved the decription significantly and a list of models used / credits has been added

thank you for posting feedback

 

[Daffa]

i have now improved the decription significantly and a list of models used / credits has been added

thank you for posting feedback

Your welcome

EDIT : Sorry, I can't play the map since I am busy.

 

[slayerby]

that would be appreciated

EDIT: don't know what you mean by 1.22 but ok

 

[slayerby]

i have update description and map name better fits the game

 

[Orcnet]

back to pending

 

[Theoden of KoMe]

Since i am greek li think you will read my opinion more than the others.
Firstly great idea i love it but i still dont get it why rhodes?
Secondly its pernounced Poseidon and he is Zues' Brother.Hades is too but he never helps them in fact he is always against them like a pike on the neck.So if you have told me that Hades starded this then ok i believe you.
Thrirdly Zeus is the only god that has human sons.End of story.Hercules is the most famous
Fourth The colosus Statue is good like you made it but history sais it was places at the entrance of the shipyard with his feet at the two sides of the opening.The statue is a replicate of the Sun god Appolon.
Finally the models dont have the Ancient greek style and i waht you to say im right because there where no bloodelfs and mages at that time.
Greek army is seperated in 3 parts.
Part 1:Infantry.Great sheilds,short swords and the classis Hoplite Phalanx.
Part 2:Artillery.The greek armies have sling shotters mostly and rearly archers to cover the infantry's way.Creten archers are the most popular.
Part 3:Cavalary.Rearly to find in battle cause horses where used by generals and kings but in great armys a platton of cavalary was always there to cover the flanks.

Well my review is this:
Terrian 4/5
Units 2/5
Idea 3/5
Gameplay 3/5
Total: 3/5 which for the hive is Usefull and i hope they will approve.
By the way i dont want to critisize you but if you can change some of these i mentioned.And good job for making a map with greeks
Oh and add a picture cause i hate watching the terrian of the mapwhile i read the description

 

[slayerby]

Since i am greek li think you will read my opinion more than the others.
Firstly great idea i love it but i still dont get it why rhodes?
Secondly its pernounced Poseidon and he is Zues' Brother.Hades is too but he never helps them in fact he is always against them like a pike on the neck.So if you have told me that Hades starded this then ok i believe you.
Thrirdly Zeus is the only god that has human sons.End of story.Hercules is the most famous
Fourth The colosus Statue is good like you made it but history sais it was places at the entrance of the shipyard with his feet at the two sides of the opening.The statue is a replicate of the Sun god Appolon.
Finally the models dont have the Ancient greek style and i waht you to say im right because there where no bloodelfs and mages at that time.
Greek army is seperated in 3 parts.
Part 1:Infantry.Great sheilds,short swords and the classis Hoplite Phalanx.
Part 2:Artillery.The greek armies have sling shotters mostly and rearly archers to cover the infantry's way.Creten archers are the most popular.
Part 3:Cavalary.Rearly to find in battle cause horses where used by generals and kings but in great armys a platton of cavalary was always there to cover the flanks.

Well my review is this:
Terrian 4/5
Units 2/5
Idea 3/5
Gameplay 3/5
Total: 3/5 which for the hive is Usefull and i hope they will approve.
By the way i dont want to critisize you but if you can change some of these i mentioned.And good job for making a map with greeks
Oh and add a picture cause i hate watching the terrian of the mapwhile i read the description

thank you very much for your feedback and review, we will try to incorporate some of your ideas for sure , also if you have any good Greek hero idea it would be appreciated. also Rhodes is just a nice isolated place that isn't to well known and for the heroes i drew my inspiration from the Percy Jackson novels and just merged them with Greek history

p.s for the picture thing we have tried and we may eventually add one but right now we don't have the program and it isn't first on our to do list with the map

thanks again

 

[slayerby]

thank you very much ^^

 

[Twilight]

Map is Epic, Terrain looks gr8, I love the paladin statue
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Rating:
-4/5
Stuff to Fix:
-Nothing to fix

 

[slayerby]

Map is Epic, Terrain looks gr8, I love the paladin statue
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Rating:
-4/5
Stuff to Fix:
-Nothing to fix

thanks for feedback man , was the model we liked best for the collosses so great to hear people also like it

 

[Twilight]

Your welcome

 

[Horselord12]

If we see the ancient greek mythological traditions, Sparta has moreconnections to underworld becuase they defend a passage what leads to underworld gate. I like the map, plus I prefer meele fight based missions. Hope you guys will add something new awesome in future updates.

 

[matt5556]

terrain is moderately good and pls and also add more heroes and buildings and more BOSSES and 4 th player coz alot of my friends want to play this anyway good game

 

[slayerby]

what do you mean by terrain is bad, and i could add in some sort of boss soon i guess

 

[matt5556]

Add the kraken as a boss with cerberus and also hydra(not the hydra from original warcraft) what i mean by hydra are hydra heads spawning from the water and undead dragons ! I like your maps

 

[matt5556]

rename death ring to Doom Ring and pls all starting letters are capital

 

[slayerby]

well thanks for feedback we are thinking of adding another player soon, the boss idea is cool i'll see what i can do there

 

[matt5556]

Lol the fallen king model is awesome!

 

[StoPCampinGn00b]

Remember, more players have pros and cons

Pros:

More action
More sharing

Cons:

More Hectic
More Crowded
AND
Needs to find a way to get more players

If it isn't a team set up (like melee, loap, free alliances games), ignore me.

 

[slayerby]

Remember, more players have pros and cons

Pros:

More action
More sharing

Cons:

More Hectic
More Crowded
AND
Needs to find a way to get more players

If it isn't a team set up (like melee, loap, free alliances games), ignore me.

no way all advice will be heeded!, the 3rd player will be the last introduced, may make a version aside from this one otherwise but that is highly unlikely, but yeah the crowding thing is why we are hesitant to add more players, its ok for undead cause it makes it harder tho

 

[nskral]

This map is great! Thanks for doing it.I would like to see a campaign which is you defeat these undead first then train a 100-150 army(in this map) and with that you are going to clean all greece from the cursed undead.That would be super coool.(also you can play the game with 2 hero by random hero trick(I couldn't defeat them at other way so )

 

[slayerby]

This map is great! Thanks for doing it.I would like to see a campaign which is you defeat these undead first then train a 100-150 army(in this map) and with that you are going to clean all greece from the cursed undead.That would be super coool.(also you can play the game with 2 hero by random hero trick(I couldn't defeat them at other way so )

sneaky ain't ya XD, glad to here you enjoy the map but i don't think a campaign will happen unfortunately . thanks for feedback about map

 

[nskral]

I tried again, and I won it in a non-cheaty wayWould you let these models and etc. to make a campaign?

Edit:In new map if you chose every computer(I didn't tried any other) insane, new outpost won't have no heros while orange one will have two.Also I would happy if you replace crypt fiends with skeleton archers(marksmen or burning archers).I would be happy also if you make normal version with reinforcement and harder one without reinforcement.

Edit2-4: Poseidon's(?) hero and Zeus's(??) hero needs a rework about abilities.(Some of things writes at abilities are wrong, like chain lighting)

Edit3:And new gold mine has less gold than others.(Mine run out)

Edit4:Computer Citadel Player has 103 food used but it has no upkeep.Also if you don't choose player 10 for an example it says player 10, not outpost.

 

[slayerby]

I tried again, and I won it in a non-cheaty wayWould you let these models and etc. to make a campaign?

Edit:In new map if you chose every computer(I didn't tried any other) insane, new outpost won't have no heros while orange one will have two.Also I would happy if you replace crypt fiends with skeleton archers(marksmen or burning archers).I would be happy also if you make normal version with reinforcement and harder one without reinforcement.

Edit2-4: Poseidon's(?) hero and Zeus's(??) hero needs a rework about abilities.(Some of things writes at abilities are wrong, like chain lighting)

Edit3:And new gold mine has less gold than others.(Mine run out)

Edit4:Computer Citadel Player has 103 food used but it has no upkeep.Also if you don't choose player 10 for an example it says player 10, not outpost.

thank you, i will work on fixing these, i'm sure there will be more things i missed, please tell me if you see anything

 

[nskral]

Thanks, I am playing generally with Hades so I will try other ones and if I see more things.I would like to see maps like this.Thanks again

 

[nskral]

Possibly Last Post for This Version

Alright I saw that misc. merchant is a building.(that would be better if it's speed like 0,001 you got the idea
New outpost is won't receive any reinforcements from sea(like spartans etc.) or from armies coming at the end of counter.(I don't know it's a bug or a feature for hard players)
In new version zombies won't move at the end of the game(I mean if you win)(Actually it's a good thing right
And I won't give any other feedback until new version I think.
Thanks for reading it.

 

[slayerby]

Alright I saw that misc. merchant is a building.(that would be better if it's speed like 0,001 you got the idea
New outpost is won't receive any reinforcements from sea(like spartans etc.) or from armies coming at the end of counter.(I don't know it's a bug or a feature for hard players)
In new version zombies won't move at the end of the game(I mean if you win)(Actually it's a good thing right
And I won't give any other feedback until new version I think.
Thanks for reading it.

regarding the sea spawn i just realized that, victory timer came before lb so his troops haven't been added, not sure if i will at that, and i have no idea why the undead don't move after timer i don't mind as much cause thats supposed to be the you win timer anyway.

but thanks again for your help, hopefully new version where most is fixed will come out sooner

p.s it seems to me that the undead only target lb base after collosus is destroyed and was wondering if you noticed that through your plays?

 

[nskral]

well I mean, they won't move after you win for sure.Like new zombies from villages after you dealt with every other thing.I think it's not a bug.lb=?(Colossus nearly never destroyed and when it was destroyed my forces already lost, maybe can try that)Also if you let the forces to destroy undead, they can be dealt. They can't win alone sometimes.I am planning test the 'night elven democrats' which appears near of the map by sea elemantals.

 

[nskral]

They are attracting risen undead and they are respawning even they have been killed.Strange but I remember that an death knight reached them and killed them somehow.But just to be sure why they are there? (or in the map

 

[slayerby]

They are attracting risen undead and they are respawning even they have been killed.Strange but I remember that an death knight reached them and killed them somehow.But just to be sure why they are there? (or in the map

light blue? or those night elf things?

light blue is an extra character for more people to play and the night elves is so grey and pink don't have their own base, but they should be destroyed by triggers at game start

 

[nskral]

ow, lb=light blue, okay.Night elves attracting risen dead. Light blue base can be attacked but it's not in a a position that everyone choose to attack.They are attacking it sometimes before collosus destroyed, I had to live at citadel base in my last game because of this. Don't worry I didn't see any single risen dead building.But you should check about night elves as some strange stuff going out at there.(undead kills them, undead disappears, night elves appears without a hero, sometimes give a message a keeper of grove has died etc.)

 

[slayerby]

oh its cause you use random hero normally they would not be able to build one because their in water

also the damn wisps are unkillable, ive tried many times but they just keep popping back up.

another error with game if your light blue and chose hades, hades hero spawns in red base and he wont be yours so people know will be fixed soon i promise

 

[nskral]

Okay thanks again, also I would prefer seeing more good tavern names (not lvl 4 tavern.I would like to see a wall thing also because I am using tents like wall and it's a little laughy

 

[slayerby]

Okay thanks again, also I would prefer seeing more good tavern names (not lvl 4 tavern.I would like to see a wall thing also because I am using tents like wall and it's a little laughy

XD i always use tents as a wall to, the problem with making an actual wall though is in the past we've tried it and the undead are like walls? psh we aren't attacking walls

 

[EvilYoshi100]

Hello, good map, terrain is great, what makes it bad is just the mistakes in the greek things, mostly, the units looks like spartans, maybe all of them,
units 3/5 (as they look more like spartans)
terrain 5/5
idea 3/5 (as you took from the movie Percy Jackson)
overall 4/5

undead greek enemies would be great, something like undead medusa or undead cyclopes etc.
for some ideas i recommend you to visit triple w dot greekmythology dot com

 

[slayerby]

Hello, good map, terrain is great, what makes it bad is just the mistakes in the greek things, mostly, the units looks like spartans, maybe all of them,
units 3/5 (as they look more like spartans)
terrain 5/5
idea 3/5 (as you took from the movie Percy Jackson)
overall 4/5

undead greek enemies would be great, something like undead medusa or undead cyclopes etc.
for some ideas i recommend you to visit triple w dot greekmythology dot com

the undead cyclops is plan for next update, and the greek units thing is cause of lack of available greek units on hive sorry , me and my cousin aren't good model makers, if you have a model you think might work please give us a suggestion and we'll look into it

thanks again for the review

 

[matt5556]

IS undead cyclopes one of the bosses boss if it is then im helping again with suggestions and again only 3 gods unbelievable! like the 1.5 though

all are 4/5 because of lack of gods and heroes and also make map larger and if you can make that map maybe you can make a map for me ill help with suggestion ill send you links

 

[slayerby]

IS undead cyclopes one of the bosses boss if it is then im helping again with suggestions and again only 3 gods unbelievable! like the 1.5 though

all are 4/5 because of lack of gods and heroes and also make map larger and if you can make that map maybe you can make a map for me ill help with suggestion ill send you links

i probabally wont make the map larger, but once we figure out other hero ideas we will add them, but for now i'm waiting for my cousin to finish updating the map, i can't get a hold of him right now to see how far through he is sorry but ye the cyclops was your idea thank you

 

[EvilYoshi100]

except on demi-gods and gods, what about super soldiers (Barbarian, Spartan, Legionnaire etc.)

 

[slayerby]

except on demi-gods and gods, what about super soldiers (Barbarian, Spartan, Legionnaire etc.)

there are spartan hopolites in the game, they aren't as op as 300 makes them out to be but they are fairly strong, legionnaire is roman not greek and barbarians is interesting, we'll think about it

 

[matt5556]

if this is greek there should be titans right here is a flame titan Promotheus hope you like it (this is not mine just sharing it well hope you like it again)http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/skins-552/prometheus-blp-241104/ he is the titan that gave the ancient humans fire and made zeus angry also use this model for deathknight i hate the arthas look but well your the one that owns the map?
http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/models-530/skeletalknight-219250/?prev=c=4&t=2&r=20&d=list&page=2

 

[matt5556]

Muahahh

there are spartan hopolites in the game, they aren't as op as 300 makes them out to be but they are fairly strong, legionnaire is roman not greek and barbarians is interesting, we'll think about it

you are right and spartan hopolites are really strong and you get free units through out the game i agree with you slayerby

 

[EvilYoshi100]

For a new enemy, what about undead giants(change texture for an ogre) , or Hecatoncheires meaning "a hundred hands" (they throw boulders (unfortunately there are no models)). For heroes, there is some greek heroes i know, Perseus, Theseus, Bellerophon, Atlanta, Heracles, Meleager.

 

[matt5556]

For a new enemy, what about undead giants(change texture for an ogre) , or Hecatoncheires meaning "a hundred hands" (they throw boulders (unfortunately there are no models)). For heroes, there is some greek heroes i know, Perseus, Theseus, Bellerophon, Atlanta, Heracles, Meleager.

actually bellopheron died evil amd hecantoncheires are wayyyyyyy to large and there is perseus already theseus is not a demigod and bellopheron is evil tho at the end of his story

 

[matt5556]

actually bellopheron died evil amd hecantoncheires are wayyyyyyy to large and there is perseus already theseus is not a demigod and bellopheron is evil tho at the end of his story

yeah

 

[slayerby]

yeah

enjoying all the faces eh XD, trying to work out undead skin, when i figure out i'll update

 

[matt5556]

enjoying all the faces eh XD, trying to work out undead skin, when i figure out i'll update

HAHAHAHHAHHA yeah i like emotes and add GOBLIN ENEMIES