Godfall Elves Prologue

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03:14, 22nd Feb 2015
StoPCampinGn00b:

 

[Deleted member 237964]

I didn't expect that to come.I will have to play it when i will have some time.Looks interesting.



Edit: 22.01.15

Not much to say here.It's 4/5.Keep making good work.

 

[Mechanical Man]

Ah, forgot to add another important thing. If you get a picture with text, press Esc to continue it after you are done reading it. It will not fade away automatically.

 

[youness]

R u going to add more maps.

 

[Mechanical Man]

Yeah, I should finalize human campaign soon. But the campaigns in general aren't meant to have a lot of maps.

 

[Fingolfin]

This is a great campaign, i have had the pleasure of following your progress for a long time. The races are well designed, and the building and squad systems feel very natural. I rarely see anyone put this incredible amount of polish into their work, you have a 5/5 from me, for sure.

 

[Sclammerz]

From Mechanical Man? I'll try this one.

 

[WhiteFang]

This looks very well done and just by looking at the screenshots i can tell it will be amazing.I'm definitly going to play it.

 

[Sclammerz]

i can tell it will be amazing.

Of course its,

Spoiler

ELVES!

 

[WhiteFang]

Of course its,

Spoiler

ELVES!

No it's a campaign with lots of great custom things.

 

[Shar Dundred]

Gonna test that one.

edit: Done, here's the review:

Map: Godfall Elves Prologue
Version: 1

Review
by Shar Dundred

Terrain

I don't care too much about terrain, but this looks just beautiful. 5/5

Story

There's not much to say about it so far. Drow attack Elves, Elves fight back, Humans cut trees. There's no real main character but this campaign doesn't look like that'd be its style. Since there hasn't been much so far, I won't rate the story yet. -/5

Gameplay

Duuuuuuude, I love the squad system. Reminds me of Dawn of War. The only issue is that even though there's a crown to show which unit is the leader, the other units are sometimes standing so close to the leader that it's hard to select him with a simple click. But this is my problem.^^ The building system is nice as well - reminds me of C&C. I like it. It's a nice, innovative gameplay. There are some minor issues I listed above. Also some minor grammar issues, but nothing too bad. Overall, very good. 4/5

Bonus

I won't give any bonus points before I've seen more of the campaign. -/5

Overall

This project looks very promising. I'm looking forward seeing its progress. -/5 (no rating yet because of map progress)

Suggestions/Bugs

I know that this is a demo and much is still under development, but I'll just list the main issues I came across. Open me - In the Tutorial mission, I retreated after attacking the drow at the first gold mine and when I came back with more troops, the drow were just standing around while I killed them, they only became active when I attacked them - Perhaps make the Council Hall in Chapter One invulnerable before the second main quest is activated? Doesn't make much difference, so it doesn't really matter - The other player's names in Chapter One are "Player 1/2/..." - Some tool tips are missing - Some icons' DISBTNs don't work (wrong path?) - I tried to destroy the tower in the Tutorial with the ballista's "attack ground", but it didn't cause any damage

 

[Mechanical Man]

- In the Tutorial mission, I retreated after attacking the drow at the first gold mine and when I came back with more troops, the drow were just standing around while I killed them, they only became active when I attacked them

You attacked before gathering all your troops?

- Perhaps make the Council Hall in Chapter One invulnerable before the second main quest is activated? Doesn't make much difference, so it doesn't really matter

If the player is such serious douchebags doing such retarded things, then he deserves to lose

- The other player's names in Chapter One are "Player 1/2/..."

I'll try to fix that

- Some tool tips are missing
- Some icons' DISBTNs don't work (wrong path?)

I will need more specific. The wildrider issue was caused by typo in import name.

- I tried to destroy the tower in the Tutorial with the ballista's "attack ground", but it didn't cause any damage

Zero damage or just little? That ballista does piercing damage, which is very innefective against buildings. It's more anti personnel weapon.

 

[Shar Dundred]

You attacked before gathering all your troops?

It's called "Scouting". I just... got a bit too close.

If the player is such serious douchebags doing such retarded things, then he deserves to lose

Yeah, I can understand that. Just wanted to see what happens.^^

Zero damage or just little? That ballista does piercing damage, which is very innefective against buildings. It's more anti personnel weapon.

I know but I didn't have any other siege weapon to destroy the tower.
No damage like zero damage.

 

[StoPCampinGn00b]

Not really a type of review I would usually give, this is more like a list of issues I've found. You'll see at the end why I typed out a list of problems instead of giving a full critique.

First Mission
- When attempting to train a unit that will exceed the food cap, the message is not in relation to the food cap
- In the first mission, the cross a river quest in named building a base
- Just east of the tree of life / world tree, there are holes in the tree wall that leads to what could be a long path to something, when infact there is nothing. If not, prove me wrong with a spoiler on it.
- The tool tip for the ultimate spell doesn't state whether it damages enemies only. This causes frustration if the damage is already done to allies / self units.
- There's a jagged piece of terrain down the river, more to the east. It isn't really a problem as the terrain you have is quite good, but you know, it would bother some. I personally am not bothered by 'naked boundaries' in some areas, but if you fix that you might make the terrain critiques happy

Second Mission
- The terrain is both better and worse than in the first mission. There is more customized content that players would look at in appreciation, but sometimes, they really don't blend it. You have these huge rocks, with not much around them. Maybe a tree on top of some and shrubs around it, but there isn't much matching going on.
- Though I understand that pathways are wider to compensate for the larger armies, the map is very noticeably less decorative that the first one.
- Many download campaigns to enjoy a story, not including one isn't very campaign-like. Sure, we get a few images that tell a few things but isn't very follow able.

Overall, the gameplay is quite innovative, but it's so short lived and has it's flaws, You executed the army systems very well, it was especially cool to see the artillery system in play. The difficulty was a little on the easy side, that could easily be tweaked by just changing various unit stats. The terrain was somewhat above average, but the choice of models surely made the map look more appealing.

I'll be setting this to await update due to it mostly being unfinished work. I really suggest you create a map development thread for this, as it has a lot of potential in being a great campaign.

 

[Mechanical Man]

1. yeah I forgot about messages, they are still a bit messed up
2. I didn't notice that
3. originally there was some path containing something there, but it seems we forgot to fully close the area
4. most damaging spells damage all units
5. I don't see anything jagged there, but I don't think anyone will notice


1. but there is vegetation around those rocks, not much, but some it is and
2. this area of Whisperwood doesn't contain such dense forest as previous map
3. it was more a demo, since in 2 chapters without cinematics you can't say much, next update will contain a human campaign with cinematics and full story about them.


And there is already a map development thread, hell even the whole forum about it.

 

[Heinvers]

- The terrain is both better and worse in the first mission. There is more customized content that players would look at in appreciation, but sometimes, they really don't blend it. You have these huge rocks, with not much around them. Maybe a tree on top of some and shrubs around it, but there isn't much matching going on.

Overall, the gameplay is quite innovative, but it's so short lived and has it's flaws,

What the....are you kidding me? That's the worst nitpicking ever seen by me.

First of all I DO NOT AGREE with what you just said, It's kept at a minimal level suited for a melee type terrain while still retaining some detail and depth.

Second of all, there's the subforum for Godfall, you should check it out SCN.
Godfall is quite known for the minimal story that's told through the Loading screens instead.

Thirdly, this is a prologue not a stub. I think you should reevaluate your position and start re-reviewing it according to the general rules.

Edit: Oh and I mean no offense by this.

 

[StoPCampinGn00b]

I woke up to these two comments. Welp.

Anyway, yeah my review sucked. I'll justify my moderation decision in a few hours when I get on a PC.

 

[StoPCampinGn00b]

Thirdly, this is a prologue not a stub.

My bad for not clarifying. The reason why this is set to await update is not because of its flaws, it's because of it's unfinished work.

What the....are you kidding me? That's the worst nitpicking ever seen by me.

First of all I DO NOT AGREE with what you just said, It's kept at a minimal level suited for a melee type terrain while still retaining some detail and depth.

I think I understand what you're saying. Well, it is more barren than the rest of the first map. While it isn't at all unacceptable, it is usually recommended for the scenery of the map to be more appealing than unappealing.

True, this is melee styled terrain. However, it is recommended for maps to have more appealing terrain than unappealing terrain.

Well, I'm the one who has to decide how well it is. On a scale 1-10, five is exactly average for approved maps. Over ten is Acheron's Affliction type of visuals.
Mission one: 8.25
Mission two: 7.5
I'll explain this a bit more. No, I don't mean for it to be like a dense forest. If a dense forest does not suit the theme of the map then it rightfully doesn't. It's missing the ambiance the first mission had.

I honestly can't see how that's nitpicking. Those are the most noticeable things I see about the terrain.

And there is already a map development thread, hell even the whole forum about it.

Second of all, there's the subforum for Godfall, you should check it out SCN.

I DO NOT AGREE

I know you both aren't trying to be mean, but it's tiresome to receive these type of comments. It's difficult to know about things like "This map has a forum," if there isn't even a link. It's not my job to research about the map I'm reviewing outside of the thread, but I do so anyway to avoid things like this. It didn't work.

I even checked to see Mechanical Man's recent threads and posts to see if he already has a thread. There isn't one under his name. There isn't a godfall map development thread Mechanical Man has even posted on for the first few pages. I finally found it since it's been mentioned it's a forum.

I also did not know it was a demo. I suspected it might be unfinished work due to the word pro luge, but I tested it just to make sure. This ties into my reasoning below.

I think you should reevaluate your position and start re-reviewing it according to the general rules.

I won't reevaluate my position because my position is already valid.

Rule:
"Work in progress (WIP) maps are not allowed, the map needs to be a complete release.
ALPHA and BETA versions, "teasers/trailers", etc. can be posted in Map Development.
Furthermore, do not upload maps and use it as a request thread. If you want a user to add something to your map for you (system, etc.), then please make a thread in WEHZ."

That is the only thing standing in the way of approval. I won't be giving another review as Mechanical Man already informed me that he doesn't want an approval yet.

 

[Michael the Boombringer]

Hello there! Are there gonna be more chapters?

 

[djsailbeat]

is this the same mission from godfall 2015 version?

 

[Mechanical Man]

more or less, the newer may be more updated