Frontal Conflict BETAv0.25

[Moderator]

20:52, 13th Aug 2010
ap0calypse: Approved

 

[kalmis]

So... tell me what you think about this.

 

[Dakillakan]

I think you need a better description, a good description should have:
Details about the Game
Pretty Colors [see? makes it more appealing =D ]
What you do in that game [ "And try to capture the Enemies flag" means nothing to me]
Credits to important testers, modelers, etcetera.
Maybe some screenshots? Show off your mad terraining skillz

I haven't played the game yet [I can't host =(] But a good description will motivate people to play it.

 

[krisserz]

I think you need a better description, a good description should have:
Details about the Game
Pretty Colors [see? makes it more appealing =D ]
What you do in that game [ "And try to capture the Enemies flag" means nothing to me]
Credits to important testers, modelers, etcetera.
Maybe some screenshots? Show off your mad terraining skillz

I haven't played the game yet [I can't host =(] But a good description will motivate people to play it.

So far it`s not main point of improving the description for him. He MUST improve it to make map be acceptable and not violate Hive rules.

 

[kalmis]

So far it`s not main point of improving the description for him. He MUST improve it to make map be acceptable and not violate Hive rules.

What do you mean? Have I violated rules?

 

[krisserz]

Presentation
All maps must be made in English, must not contain overwhelmingly bad spelling or grammar, must contain a valid author and map name, and must contain a well-written description to give the reader a good idea of what the map is about. Imports, terrain, camera, and other visuals should complement the game.

(Map Rules)
I can`t call it a well made description. These are just most-basic informations.

I think you should read THIS.

 

[Dakillakan]

What do you mean? Have I violated rules?

That would be a yes, as with most people [including me when I first put my map on hive] we didn't read Hive's map rules. A proper description is required in hive [although it is important to have one in-game].

 

[kalmis]

Done discriptioning, hope this is any good.

 

[krisserz]

Ok, it`s... just a little bit better...

Oh, c`mon, be more creative. Use bb-codes, put some screenshots, etc.
Like there.

 

[kalmis]

OK. I think this is better, tell me if its good now.

 

[krisserz]

Ok, it`s still getting better, GJ. Now you must have in-game description too.
And btw I think you should improve the terrain of the map.

 

[Darkgamma]

Add a goddamn minimap icon, Neutral point
Change log is missing, Neutral Point
Each class has a different buildup (e.g. you can make paladin a healer or a tank)
Add an ',' in front of 'paladin', Neutral Point
Description Epic.
Model selection for heroes, Sweet.
File size is 7-Zip like.
The terrain seems fine, but a lil' bit plain.
Protection notice: Thanks for telling us.

All in all, mostly positive comments, with no negative (negative points are marked in the colour I'm now using) points. I vote for approval.
Flying colours, 5/5

 

[kalmis]

Add a goddamn minimap icon, Neutral point
Change log is missing, Neutral Point
Each class has a different buildup (e.g. you can make paladin a healer or a tank)
Add an ',' in front of 'paladin', Neutral Point
Description Epic.
Model selection for heroes, Sweet.
File size is 7-Zip like.
The terrain seems fine, but a lil' bit plain.
Protection notice: Thanks for telling us.

All in all, mostly positive comments, with no negative (negative points are marked in the colour I'm now using) points. I vote for approval.
Flying colours, 5/5

Sweet . ill add minimap icon later .
And how do i add this "change log"?

 

[krisserz]

Look how it is here or here.

 

[kalmis]

So how is the game play, anyone tried it?
Oh c'mon I'm waiting for answer for few days now... write something!
Am I invisible or something??
I can't believe how many major bugs i left before :/

 

[triptick]

you should make the minimap image more personalized
AND
as i doubt you drew it (no offence) you need to credit the artist UNLESS were it is from said it was open source

 

[kalmis]

you should make the minimap image more personalized
AND
as i doubt you drew it (no offence) you need to credit the artist UNLESS were it is from said it was open source

Well i found this screen by googling, so i definitely didn't drew it. In this case, ill make my own icon then

--DONE--

Is it always with you guys like that... spotting only bad things?

 

[triptick]

i really like the new screen thanks for considering my advice +REP

 

[ap0calypse]

Is it always with you guys like that... spotting only bad things?

Of course, you've only just seen the tip of the iceberg =D
You learn from your mistakes, we make it easy and point those out for you... there's nothing to learn about things you do good.

 

[kalmis]

Of course, you've only just seen the tip of the iceberg =D
You learn from your mistakes, we make it easy and point those out for you... there's nothing to learn about things you do good.

true the best part is that you all are posting about my map

 

[Eldrazor]

The map is too big in my opinion, most of the time you're just... walking...

 

[kalmis]

The map is too big in my opinion, most of the time you're just... walking...

if ill make the map smaller it will be too easy to win. And to compensate that I have already increased movement speed and right now added arena event

 

[Eldrazor]

If it's still too easy to win increase the movement speed penalty when walking with the flag... But the map just needs to be smaller, takes forever to get somewhere...

 

[kalmis]

If it's still too easy to win increase the movement speed penalty when walking with the flag... But the map just needs to be smaller, takes forever to get somewhere...

Hmm.. ill consider your suggestion. I think ill add a mode later which will make the map smaller and the players could chose between those two maps this way it will be better... I think. Oh and if ill do this ill make even more different maps of the game to chose from

 

[Eldrazor]

That's a good idea, as long as it's implemented properly. Please do not use text commands, they suck. Maybe make it so that you have this tavern-like thing where you have descriptions of the different maps, their sizes, etc.

 

[tjordell]

I think you need a better description, a good description should have:
Details about the Game
Pretty Colors [see? makes it more appealing =D ]
What you do in that game [ "And try to capture the Enemies flag" means nothing to me]
Credits to important testers, modelers, etcetera.
Maybe some screenshots? Show off your mad terraining skillz

I haven't played the game yet [I can't host =(] But a good description will motivate people to play it.

If you want to host there are 2 alternative ways i know.
1st. (If you have an router that u'r cable is inplugger or an adapter) Type in you'r computer IP in the internet browser and then you are into you'r router, there you can portforward.

2nd. (If you have an modem that you have an cable inplugged) You can try to disable you'r firewall. That works for me and my buddies.

 

[Greetz_DK]

Sweet description!
... played what game?

 

[kalmis]

That's a good idea, as long as it's implemented properly. Please do not use text commands, they suck. Maybe make it so that you have this tavern-like thing where you have descriptions of the different maps, their sizes, etc.

Yeah, but i have this little problem of the map looking ugly, so i tried to put custom in-game minimap and putting some triggers with camera bounds, but when i put my minimap and launching the map w3 crashes, when i removed my minimap its no longer crashes. So i don't know how to salve this, but i will keep trying though.

I've found the solution but the minimap is absolutely black so u cant see you allies heroes and the minimap marks and stuff so i don't know if its good or leave the old and ugly map. So i need your opinion.

And i have another idea, if ill leave this black minimap i could do so that camera follow your hero and it will be like... "through the eyes of the hero". Its a big decision (i think) and i need more opinions for this.

 

[slade2000xx]

well thought out

 

[kalmis]

well thought out

YAY! Something good about my map! wohoo!

 

[tastywater]

Pretty good idea for a map. Played it in single though.
+ Lots of different specialisations for classes
+ You can set some custom settings.
+ 2 different maps
+ Great Terraining, looks great.
-Creeps are stronger than your basic hero, at least rouge
-Minimap is disabled, which means that it will be harder to cooperate with teams. There will probably be confusion where the enemy is and so on.
My Rating: 7/10 - May be fun online, gonna try and play it with my friends

 

[kalmis]

Pretty good idea for a map. Played it in single though.
+ Lots of different specialisations for classes
+ You can set some custom settings.
+ 2 different maps
+ Great Terraining, looks great.
-Creeps are stronger than your basic hero, at least rouge
-Minimap is disabled, which means that it will be harder to cooperate with teams. There will probably be confusion where the enemy is and so on.
My Rating: 7/10 - May be fun online, gonna try and play it with my friends

Tnx for post 7/10 is quite good . Ok ill weaken the creeps, turn on minimap and remove camera effects cuz farsight and reveal becomes useless, and controling pets and summons becomes very hard.

 

[Newominus]

Why is it strenght heroes?

 

[kalmis]

Why is it strenght heroes?

The answer is.... whops.

 

[Tmilly]

use custom models makes things more fun

 

[kalmis]

use custom models makes things more fun

Im kinda bad at modeling and i dont want use other peoples work in my map
I dont even know how to create custom models, though i know how to make different textures on heroes maybe later, when the map will be more advanced and no longer BETA.

 

[-Kobas-]

Ok lets see:

Things that I don't like:

1 - Terrain, grrr blizzard cliffs
2 - Some Items are bad (Like sword that gives 20 ms 10% as and 3 dmg)
3 - Units are 2 slow (Change max ms to 522) and make normal ms 300
4 - Maybe because i played in single mode but units spawn 1 in min (or so) They are slow and useless against hero -.-
5 - Hero level system (Maybe is better way to replace that book with dialog buttons)
6 - Hero skill points have attribute bonus icon, but when you want to upgrade hero ability you can see lumber icon (Game interface - Fix that)
7 - You don't have credits, map description etc ingame!

Things that I like:

1 - Whole game looks fun and cool
2 - Loot of custom abilities and skills
3 - Large number of Heroes
4 - Large number of items
5 - Loading Screen isn't custom but you describe game very well
6 - Map size selection
7 - Map description

Some words to Author:

1 - Fix that above and I will give 4/5 for now only 3/5
2 - If you need loading screen I can create one for you
3 - Maybe you can change that waves selection on start with dialog buttons as well as hero level up!
4 - If I was on your place I will create next: After hero gains level he become invisible/invulnerable or whatever on map until player that controls him don't pick witch ability will upgrade (my opinion)!
5 - Also make all items original, sword gain damage, boots movement speed etc
6 - Create some kind of control point that will add extra ms or as to units/hero that still or pass nearby!
7 - Maybe you can create fountain of life or something like it
8 - Add destructibles to terrain you can pick faster way and try to destroy tree/barrel or some box or go around (need 2/3 sec to destroy)
9 - Create hidden stuff that will at map start or at start of each round create some unique item at random hidden region (so player can't wait add pick right away)! It can add larger invisibility, remove slow while hero carry flag etc etc

I hope you will improve/upgrade map, it already looks great, make it awesome!

3/5 Vote for Approval

 

[kalmis]

Ok lets see:

Things that I don't like:
1 - Terrain, grrr blizzard cliffs
2 - Some Items are bad (Like sword that gives 20 ms 10% as and 3 dmg)
3 - Units are 2 slow (Change max ms to 522) and make normal ms 300
4 - Maybe because i played in single mode but units spawn 1 in min (or so) They are slow and useless against hero -.-
5 - Hero level system (Maybe is better way to replace that book with dialog buttons)
6 - Hero skill points have attribute bonus icon, but when you want to upgrade hero ability you can see lumber icon (Game interface - Fix that)
7 - You don't have credits, map description etc ingame!
Things that I like:
1 - Whole game looks fun and cool
2 - Loot of custom abilities and skills
3 - Large number of Heroes
4 - Large number of items
5 - Loading Screen isn't custom but you describe game very well
6 - Map size selection
7 - Map description

Some words to Author:
1 - Fix that above and I will give 4/5 for now only 3/5
2 - If you need loading screen I can create one for you
3 - Maybe you can change that waves selection on start with dialog buttons as well as hero level up!
4 - If I was on your place I will create next: After hero gains level he become invisible/invulnerable or whatever on map until player that controls him don't pick witch ability will upgrade (my opinion)!
5 - Also make all items original, sword gain damage, boots movement speed etc
6 - Create some kind of control point that will add extra ms or as to units/hero that still or pass nearby!
7 - Maybe you can create fountain of life or something like it
8 - Add destructibles to terrain you can pick faster way and try to destroy tree/barrel or some box or go around (need 2/3 sec to destroy)
9 - Create hidden stuff that will at map start or at start of each round create some unique item at random hidden region (so player can't wait add pick right away)! It can add larger invisibility, remove slow while hero carry flag etc etc

I hope you will improve/upgrade map, it already looks great, make it awesome!

3/5 Vote for Approval

Well... you gave me allot of work
Thanks for reviewing.
Btw there is a fountain.
Try it multi-player this changes the game significantly.

 

[-Kobas-]

Well... you gave me allot of work
Thanks for reviewing.
Btw there is a fountain.
Try it multi-player this changes the game significantly.

Damn I don't see fountain -.-
(But if you mean at that in base no, I was thinking about fountain or something like it on random places on map)

 

[kalmis]

Damn I don't see fountain -.-
(But if you mean at that in base no, I was thinking about fountain or something like it on random places on map)

Oh, at random place. That make sense now.
And whats wrong with those blizzard cliffs? You mean i cant use them or is it at the borders? Those mountain thingies. And how should i replace those?
And well you could make one leading screen for me feel free to write "Made by -insert name here-"

 

[Frontal]

Well making the random place fountain would unbalance the game: 1 team would conquer it and keep it thus resulting to total ownage...

(im one of the test crew of the mao)

 

[Cweener]

Based on multiple good reviews, I'd say approve.

 

[Rann]

awesome work man.
Terrain 5/5.
Modes 5/5.
Heroes 4/5.
Idea 5/5.
Big 5/5 For map , keep work on !!!