Final Fantasy XIII to come to Xbox 360!

[bobo11]

Hey DSG you say that if they use a dual layer blu-ray disc they will never be able to port it on 360? Hah that's sweet... means that MGS4 will never be possible on 360. And didn't you say something about cross platforming or some shit... I think that's just another word you made up for porting.

And as far as I know not any 360 dvd's are 8.5gb. Yes dvd can do that much but the 360 ones do 6.8gb. (as far as I know).

And the game will definately be over 100 hours, maybe 200 or even what gilles said 500 . And the under 60 minute demo was 5gb.

And DSG I know we have changed topic from graphics, but what is up with you defending 360 graphics in every post. Honestly you know the ps3 does better graphics (killzone 2, infamous, mgs4) are all equal or higher than the 360's gears of war 2. Not to mention uncharted 2, heavy rain in the future (and more in future). Alan awake is good graphics though. Just accept the fact dr super good... lol

 

[Steel_Stallion]

Hey DSG you say that if they use a dual layer blu-ray disc they will never be able to port it on 360? Hah that's sweet... means that MGS4 will never be possible on 360. And didn't you say something about cross platforming or some shit... I think that's just another word you made up for porting.

And as far as I know not any 360 dvd's are 8.5gb. Yes dvd can do that much but the 360 ones do 6.8gb. (as far as I know).

And the game will definately be over 100 hours, maybe 200 or even what gilles said 500 . And the under 60 minute demo was 5gb.

And DSG I know we have changed topic from graphics, but what is up with you defending 360 graphics in every post. Honestly you know the ps3 does better graphics (killzone 2, infamous, mgs4) are all equal or higher than the 360's gears of war 2. Not to mention uncharted 2, heavy rain in the future (and more in future). Alan awake is good graphics though. Just accept the fact dr super good... lol

What?

Killzone 2? MGS4? Gears of war 2?

They aren't the best in graphics, because all they are are palettes of fucking gray and brown. MGS 4 is a fucking movie since you hardly play the game between 30 fucking minute cutscenes. And I don't really see anything eye popping in it, infact it looks worse than most next gen games.

Killzone 2 is World War 2 in space, the story is shit for brains and the characters are annoying. The renders are good, the SFX is awesome, but the palette is just gray and brown and shit.

Gears of war 2 can also be summed up like that, the story was a lame attempt at a love story, the multiplayer was fucking ruined because Epic was stupid enough to try to use the matchmaking system. IT WORKED WITH HALO 3, AND NOTHING FUCKING ELSE.

If you want graphics, try something creative because splats of brown and making everything fucking gray doesn't mean the graphics are good. Prince of Persia is a good example of superior design and graphics, Flower also looked great and Littlebigplanet looked nice too.

Obviously you have no fucking clue how machines work, you seem to be bias in that since the PS3 is "supposedly" more technically superior it can produce better graphics.

And like I said, games don't need to be 60 fucking gb. That's just really really poor optimization on the developers part.

They were retarded to bring FF to the Xbox anyway, the entire fan base is stationed on the PS3, the Xbox owners don't like those kinds of games which is why they own an Xbox.


And by the way, I'd rather play fucking Braid with it's 2d sprites and innovative game play than be some big fat fuck marine in another World War in space in Killzone 2.


(I have had a change in heart, so don't bother pointing out my earlier posts.)

GG go die

 

[Gilles]

If you want graphics, try something creative because splats of brown and making everything fucking gray doesn't mean the graphics are good. Prince of Persia is a good example of superior design and graphics, Flower also looked great and Littlebigplanet looked nice too.

Been watching a lot of Zero Punctuation?
I like the graphics fine, suits the games.

Obviously you have no fucking clue how machines work, you seem to be bias in that since the PS3 is "supposedly" more technically superior it can produce better graphics.

And you know exactly how "machines" work?

And like I said, games don't need to be 60 fucking gb. That's just really really poor optimization on the developers part.

Or strategy. They want you to buy more/larger hard drives.

They were retarded to bring FF to the Xbox anyway, the entire fan base is stationed on the PS3, the Xbox owners don't like those kinds of games which is why they own an Xbox.

I own a 360, and can't wait for FF13.

GG go die

Please don't flame people. -rep

When you try and argue about something try not swearing, it only hurts your arguments.

 

[bobo11]

steel_stallion

What the hell you totally missed my point. Ok first of all flaming all those games had nothing to do with what I was saying. Hardly no playing in MGS4? Omg honestly that's stupid. The cutscenes were amazing by the way.

And yes I too would agree games like flower and little big planet have the best graphics. But FF13 is going for a realistic style graphics, just like killzone 2, gears of war, mgs4, all that. Obviously brighter but still a realistic approach.

And they brought FF13 to xbox to make more money. Or maybe they only brought it to 360 because microsoft bribed them? Who knows. But it waas to make money somehow.

And come on.. JRPG's sell amazing on the 360... star ocean 4 has done about 300k (LOL). Sorry had to say it.

And keep KZ2's gameplay out of this thread. It was decent.

And hey! Cheers for telling me to go die

 

[Ricardo Irving]

Haha, PS3's will die soon, and Sony will be broke...! Good ol' M1cr0$0ft bribed Square.

 

[WILL THE ALMIGHTY]

I'm sorry this is just getting too stupid.

 

[Ricardo Irving]

Yep...hey, EDIT: Nice Sig.
END EDIT.
Oh, and by good ol' Microsoft I mean the idiotic fools which are turning the Xbox into a Wii and also loves to spend their money to get exclusives, Final Fantasy isn't Sony anymore... but you get the other XIII games for PS3, FFXIII Tactics and some other one.
EDIT 2:

What?

Killzone 2? MGS4? Gears of war 2?

They aren't the best in graphics, because all they are are palettes of fucking gray and brown. MGS 4 is a fucking movie since you hardly play the game between 30 fucking minute cutscenes. And I don't really see anything eye popping in it, infact it looks worse than most next gen games.

Killzone 2 is World War 2 in space, the story is shit for brains and the characters are annoying. The renders are good, the SFX is awesome, but the palette is just gray and brown and shit.

Gears of war 2 can also be summed up like that, the story was a lame attempt at a love story, the multiplayer was fucking ruined because Epic was stupid enough to try to use the matchmaking system. IT WORKED WITH HALO 3, AND NOTHING FUCKING ELSE.

If you want graphics, try something creative because splats of brown and making everything fucking gray doesn't mean the graphics are good. Prince of Persia is a good example of superior design and graphics, Flower also looked great and Littlebigplanet looked nice too.

Obviously you have no fucking clue how machines work, you seem to be bias in that since the PS3 is "supposedly" more technically superior it can produce better graphics.

And like I said, games don't need to be 60 fucking gb. That's just really really poor optimization on the developers part.

They were retarded to bring FF to the Xbox anyway, the entire fan base is stationed on the PS3, the Xbox owners don't like those kinds of games which is why they own an Xbox.


And by the way, I'd rather play fucking Braid with it's 2d sprites and innovative game play than be some big fat fuck marine in another World War in space in Killzone 2.


(I have had a change in heart, so don't bother pointing out my earlier posts.)

GG go die

You're a brilliant scholar.

 

[Dr Super Good]

the Xbox owners don't like those kinds of games which is why they own an Xbox

Incorrect, yes the hardcore fanboys may be on PS3, but they will still hit huge numbers of sales to people who own 360. In america and europe the 360 has a much larger market shair, and most people like final fantasy like games, thus more people will buy it. The 360 and PS3 sales should be about equal in europe and in the USA you will probably find more 360 sales.

The fact is you people fail to see logic. The 360 is only graphically better because it can use AA while the PS3 can not aford the time to. Also the 360 can use more RAM for graphics without slowdowns occuring. Thus higher resolution textures + AA make it look graphically better to anyone viewing. The PS3's graphic card is capable of more grunt graphic geometry, however due to RAM restrictions it still has the same space to alocate if not less to textures, and as it is textures that are seen and not geometry, the surfaces produced tend to look less detailed. May I remind you people that the PS3 uses a geforce 7 series graphic processor, with one of those I stuggled to run TES oblivion at near max (with no AA).

Also it has been shown at E3 that the 360 version is working perfectly, I do believe the ingame gameplay footage of odin was done on the 360 and not on the PS3?

Honestly stop this stupid arguing with no evidence. The PS3 and 360 are about equal hardware wise with the exception of the 360 being graphically weaker on paper but including specialized systems to do calculation intensive graphical opperations like AA. Processor wise, they are also very simlar, with the PS3 being only marginally better (more processors which are harder to sync rather than 360's 3 procesors with HT allowing more easilly syncronization).
PS3 however has better storage medium hands down, sadly no games have taken advantage of the extra space potential to full, as that much data would bankrupt a company (programming for dual layer).

Also may I remind you that final fantasy is exclusive to shit all. It was oringally for the NES, then SNES, then they ported some to PS1, then they released some for PC and PS1 until 9 where it streamed onto playstation till 11... Think of 11, it was on PS2, 360 and PC, and 14 will be on PC. Thus 13 being 360 and PS3 does not really matter. Again proving your arguing against something for no reason.

The way some people are behaving looks like they are actually sad that they brought an expensive 400£+ console to play a game which is not even exclusive to it. Honestly grow up, its about the game not the fucking package of the game.

If FF13's 360 version turns out a failure, they will not try it. If it is a sucess they will do it again. Who knows the PS3 one might end up failing for all people know now.

Only time can tell, and (unfortunatly for some of you) it seems the 360 is capable of running it fine.

 

[Ricardo Irving]

In an interview, the Sony boss said that PS3 does not have an easy-to-program thing so that people can't take advantage of the software or something like that. What an idiot. Really, it goes PS2 trumps Xbox, Xbox 360 trumps PS3.

 

[bobo11]

Yehh DSG because 10mb of RAM makes such a big difference...

Oh yeh I know the FF13 exclusive debate is over and now it's all graphics and crap... but victory for sony. They have bagged FF14 and FF13 versus!

 

[Ricardo Irving]

13/14 versus and tactics means nothing. PS3 won't come out until 2015 (yep, and thats if its not delayed), and its sold the least. Killzone 2's sales have been bettered by GTA IV: Lost and Damned, which are both exclusives for PS3 and 360, respectively.

 

[Dr Super Good]

FF14 is PC as well... .Thus microsoft has not lost out. The 360 can not get it unless some more HDD upgrades occur. The PC's hard disks of 1 TB in size are superior to blu-ray in both capacity and read speed, thus performance on the PC for 14 will exceed the PS3 massivly. Infact the PS3 will hold back the graphics and quality of FF14, as the PC by that stage will have graphic technology 7+ generations more advanced than the PS3. Thus at that time, the game will hardly be special.

Yehh DSG because 10mb of RAM makes such a big difference

Both consols have 512 MB of RAM, 10 MB is exactly 1.953125% (2%) of that, so an increase of 10 MB makes a hell of a lot of difference. However, like I said both are 512. However the 360 has universal 512 shaired between graphics and processor, allowing for more than 256 to be allocated to graphics for textures, the PS3 has only 256 graphics and 256 processor and thus can not load as many textures. Yes the PS3 is capable of outsourcing graphic data to the processor's memory, but in doing so must drastically decrease performance due to longer memory latency.

To put this in perspective, my bros PC with a geforce 8 series graphic processor has 1 GB of dedicated RAM for graphics, which is a massive twice that of the total memory of both consoles, thus FF14 comming to PS3 is a joke as it only drags the PC version down as they will not bother using more than 512 MB of memory, or else the fanboys will blow their mouths off at how shit the PS3 version would be compaired to the PC.

Trust me, the only problem the 360 will suffer from is the shit DVD backing storage. They really should have built HDVD into the consol itself so it is capable of using 4-8 layered DVDs instead of only 2. Hopefully some installation method would reduce the need for changig discs, as 6-7 GB from disc + 6-7GB from hardisc should allow for minimal CD exchanging.

Sadly I think a large ammount of FF13's size are pre rendered movies, thus those could be stored at lower bitrate or not in HD to drastically reduce filesize.

 

[Ricardo Irving]

Victory for Sony...Its still a JRPG, which in my opinion is one of the worst genres of all time. Combat is made unfair by JRPG's, of which LoTR: The Third Age is the bastard SOB -- that Mumakil fight will make you shiver. Good work, you show that the 360 is superior, graphic-wise, as well as VOICE-ACTING WISE, STORY WISE, GAMEPLAY WISE! Etc. Well, my opinion.

 

[WILL THE ALMIGHTY]

Hah, Mumakil fight. That was nothing.

 

[Ricardo Irving]

Lol, Sauron fight then?

 

[WILL THE ALMIGHTY]

Piss easy.

 

[Ricardo Irving]

What, did you spam that same restoration spell with Idrial while Berethor and whatitsname Dwarf just attack Sauron?

 

[Gilles]

I'm sad to see fights going back to turn based. We've got the technology to do more now, why waste it?! Oh well, I'll still probably get it.

 

[bobo11]

I'm sad to see fights going back to turn based. We've got the technology to do more now, why waste it?! Oh well, I'll still probably get it.

Yeah I agree

 

[WILL THE ALMIGHTY]

What, did you spam that same restoration spell with Idrial while Berethor and whatitsname Dwarf just attack Sauron?

Why not? That's pretty much the entire strategy for the whole game.

 

[xp3r009]

Heard that Microsoft is buying the deal to Final Fantasy to produce games for the X-Box 360, that sort of annoyed me. X-Box 360 graphics aren't really that great from what I can retell from such games. Its been great with Sony until now, with the great graphics and development. Not really amused why they moved (wealth I guess)

And by the way got the PlayStation 3 by a free offer (40 GB) by buying a HD TV (got the X series). Expensive, but great graphics.

 

[Gilles]

Heard that Microsoft is buying the deal to Final Fantasy to produce games for the X-Box 360, that sort of annoyed me. X-Box 360 graphics aren't really that great from what I can retell from such games. Its been great with Sony until now, with the great graphics and development. Not really amused why they moved (wealth I guess)

Show me a game where the PS3 has "batter graphics".

 

[xp3r009]

Compare Naruto - The Broken Bonds and Naruto - Ultimate Ninja Storm. Graphics and the way you fight is a lot worse in Naruto - The Broken Bonds (X-Box 360) than the PS3, with better graphics and flexibility (you can just move anywhere you want).

You can take the YouTube video's in comparison if you want to. Some Naruto forums are saying the PS3 version of Naruto is a lot better.

 

[Ricardo Irving]

No. Its not corrupted by oddity because its not being made by a Japanese studio, and I just don't get most Japanese manga, because its very emo and depressing, or just pointless. Turn-based battles suck...really hard. Oh, was Broken Bond made by a Japanese studio? Do Ubisoft even have one? Broken Bond is better, in my opinion.

 

[Kuhneghetz]

It's more effective to try comparing games that are ported to both the PS3 and the Xbox 360 and made by the same company, rather than trying to compare two completly different shitty games where each of them were made by different companies.

 

[Gilles]

Compare Naruto - The Broken Bonds and Naruto - Ultimate Ninja Storm. Graphics and the way you fight is a lot worse in Naruto - The Broken Bonds (X-Box 360) than the PS3, with better graphics and flexibility (you can just move anywhere you want).

You can take the YouTube video's in comparison if you want to. Some Naruto forums are saying the PS3 version of Naruto is a lot better.

Wait, is that all one name? That's ridiculous.

Anyways, I did and I think DvO already gave you my answer. The art style is similar, but at the same time quite different. I prefer the PS3, sure, but that's the art, not the graphics.

 

[Ricardo Irving]

I prefer Broken Bond art style.

 

[xp3r009]

Its weird the way they fight (with their effects) and how the graphics (some look squared in some areas of a model). The storyline in the X-Box 360 of Naruto - The Broken Bonds is good, but the graphics just disappoint me.

However, here are the ratings (from IGN):
- Naruto: The Broken Bond has received a impressive score of 8.3 in a review
- Naruto: Ultimate NInja Storm has received a impressive score of 8.4 in a review

Close, but victories is given to Naruto - Ultimate Ninja Storm.

 

[Reedoxx]

imagine if halo came to Sony, i wouldn't give a shit, yes im a fan of halo. yes im a 360 fan, but i dont really give a shit if FF came to 360 or if Halo came to PS3 it only makes some people happy so they don't have to buy a whole console just for a game...

 

[Joe-black-5]

PS3 have God of war 3.
PS3 wins by Default (unless it will be available on Xbox360)

 

[WILL THE ALMIGHTY]

God of War isn't anywhere near that awesome.

 

[Deleted member 157129]

Sorry for not bothering to read the whole thread.

I'm rather dissapointed that they've spread it out on so many consoles, if I've caught all the news, it'll be three XIII games.. neither of the consoles I've got, but what I had in mind was to buy the PS3 when XIII came out and enjoy that like I have with every other FF game after my revelation (ie VII). That I now have to buy two additional consoles to get the full story really is crushing economy-wise. It was hard enough with Crystal Chronicles for the darn GameCube with it's super-awful controllers (I didn't buy the GameCube, I borrowed one.. but hell, those controllers are made for deformed, mini-hands).

 

[Gilles]

Pretty sure the story is the same in all version of the new FF. PS3 gets the exclusive Versus though, so just buy a PS3.

 

[Deleted member 157129]

Oh? I must've missed out on some news, because the first thing I heard about XIII was that PS3 would get the "main game" but that there would be other stories about the same world on other consoles, I reckon it was three games. Anyhow, I guess I'll look more closely into it, maybe there's hope eitherway!

 

[Ricardo Irving]

God of War is just hack and slash, well, its got mixtures of other genres, but 360 exclusive Dead Rising wins hack and slash. Open-world brilliance, of putting a lego head mask onto a zombie.

 

[Gilles]

Oh? I must've missed out on some news, because the first thing I heard about XIII was that PS3 would get the "main game" but that there would be other stories about the same world on other consoles, I reckon it was three games. Anyhow, I guess I'll look more closely into it, maybe there's hope eitherway!

Doesn't that seem a bit much? A different game for three consoles? Why not make one and sell it on all three?

 

[Ricardo Irving]

Well, maybe SE bluffs about only releasing it for PS3, and then the other console companies go NO NO NO WELL PAY U MONAY!!