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[z1271beta]

lol if i am violating some "NO MORE COMPLAINTS ABOUT RECOURCES" thingy than sry, cuz it happened to me b4 at the sight called..... oh nvm im getting carried away.

well, i am working on a massive orpg , not for the internet, just for me to play with until i get more expirience at mapping, since i self-taught myself unlike the normal person (im crazzy). When i tried to download a model, the "worm" model converted from wow, it lead me to a page and it said "file does not exist!"

this has also happened to me before with other models, mostly ones converted from wow, more examples are "scorpion", and "thunder lizard", both from wow.

so if you could plz fix these i would be very happy . fix da bug plz

 

[Kimbo]

We dont allow wow models and once the database is up running back to normal they WILL get removed. The database isnt up 100% and some of the files are missing.

 

[Ralle]

well.. The models section is very messed atm I will fix it soon. I am actually working on a new section, quite the same thing but it will be much more in control.

 

[Kuhneghetz]

Oh, and while you sort the models, here are few suggestions of categories:

Buildings
Items
Special Effects
Humans
Orcs/Ogres
Trolls
Goblins
Dragons
Nerubians
Dwarves/Gnomes/Halflings
Blood Elves/High Elves
Night Elves/Dark Elves
Undead
Demons
Creeps
Starcraft/Futuristic
Video Games
Misc

Those are just suggestions, so maybe you can make combinations on the categories to shorten the choices.

 

[Mechanical Man]

I agree with Dan, there should be more model categories like it was on wc3search to make the search of models easier.
What do you mean by Video Games? Only from old arcades like your models, because even warcraft is a video game.

About wow models, there should be somewhere a tutorial for ripping them.

 

[Kuhneghetz]

What do you mean by Video Games? Only from old arcades like your models, because even warcraft is a video game.

Usually from consoles and arcade games, but we can also add computer game characters depending on the character and/or it's styles.

 

[Deleted member 126647]

We do not discuss WoW exports, the database is being worked on as we speak, so please do not complain any more.

 

[Ralle]

I have actually thought about completely removing categories and inserting tags instead.. So you could write "nerubian, unit, something" then when searching you cand search for nerubian etc.. I haven't thought it all out yet.

 

[Bob27]

Another way of doing it might be to have sub categories, also that way you would be able to organize Buildings and Items a lot better.

 

[z1271beta]

yah much ezer search


Wc3sear.ch was more organized in terms of downloads
its not only wow models either, there are some others, but i dun remember

 

[brad.dude03]

WOW MODELS ARE NOT ALLOWED. STOP TALKING ABOUT THEM. "Wc3Sear was more organized" Was it? Is that why the site is fucking dead now? Yeah real organized, being gigabytes over its hosting limit, and having a site leader that withdrew almost entirely from the community. Sounds like a wonderfully organized place to me. The resources section here is BY NO MEANS at all completed as the database is still beingf worked on, AS HAS BEEN SAID ALREADY. So if you just STFU, wait a bit, control your urge to post noob threads about stupid topics that piss me off to no end, the resource section will be ready before you know it.

 

[HappyTauren]

LOL THESE N00bS SHOULD GET BAN!! IF THEY CAN'T TAKE FEW MINUTES TO READ !@#$ING NEWS, WHY SHOULD WE BOTHER TO ANSWER THEIR QUESTIONS AND HELP THEM? WHY?

 

[The_wand_mirror]

We dont allow wow models and once the database is up running back to normal they WILL get removed. The database isnt up 100% and some of the files are missing.

I think this isnt fair because otherwise where should i get my wow models from? ..

 

[Deleted member 126647]

Some where that supports it.

Are we supposed to change our policies because you need us to, and otherwise it isn't "fair"?

 

[brad.dude03]

I think this isnt fair because otherwise where should i get my wow models from? ..

You shouldn't get WoW models, that's really the point here...

 

[Dr Super Good]

Instead of all this ranting on about WoW modles why do not people make indepth tutorials of how to modle in [inseart program name here].

The only reason people want WoW modles is they are rubbish at modiling and thus can not make that unit modle they wish.

Also all the sorting takes time and there are few moderators to sort over 1000 modles form wc3.sear and so give them time and stop rushing them.

 

[Kimbo]

No, alot of people are just too god dam lazy to learn, there are plenty of tutorials.

and yes, there are many models to filter through...many.

 

[brad.dude03]

Yes indeed. At least there aren't that many maps for me to sort through

 

[darkspear]

Oh, and while you sort the models, here are few suggestions of categories:

Buildings
Items
Special Effects
Humans
Orcs/Ogres
Trolls
Goblins
Dragons
Nerubians
Dwarves/Gnomes/Halflings
Blood Elves/High Elves
Night Elves/Dark Elves
Undead
Demons
Creeps
Starcraft/Futuristic
Video Games
Misc

Those are just suggestions, so maybe you can make combinations on the categories to shorten the choices.

thing with categories as handled is their overlap: e.g. a model can be Troll AND a unit, so that's already two categories at the same time.
My suggestion is to have 2 sets of categories: the prime categories and a second set of (kinda more specifying the race/environment/world) categories.
This look as follows:

type categories:

building
doodad
effect/buff
item
unit

set categories:

Human
Orc
Undead
Elf
Nightelf
Naga
Goblin
Troll
Nerubian
Demons
Creeps-other
Starcraft
Starwars
Futuristic-other
Comic
Misc

Should allow precise and specific searches already

 

[Rui]

WOW MODELS ARE NOT ALLOWED. STOP TALKING ABOUT THEM. "Wc3Sear was more organized" Was it? Is that why the site is fucking dead now? Yeah real organized, being gigabytes over its hosting limit, and having a site leader that withdrew almost entirely from the community. Sounds like a wonderfully organized place to me. The resources section here is BY NO MEANS at all completed as the database is still being worked on, AS HAS BEEN SAID ALREADY. So if you just STFU, wait a bit, control your urge to post noob threads about stupid topics that piss me off to no end, the resource section will be ready before you know it.

Darky didn't leave us hanging, he made sure VGsatomi was adminstrador so we had someone leading us. I do not wish to discuss this here. I am in no position to complain about Darky's choices. If it was his WoW addiction, then, we can whine.

LOL THESE N00bS SHOULD GET BAN!! IF THEY CAN'T TAKE FEW MINUTES TO READ !@#$ING NEWS, WHY SHOULD WE BOTHER TO ANSWER THEIR QUESTIONS AND HELP THEM? WHY?

Please settle down. Every post I see from you is, in it's total, or half of it, written in Caps.
And anyway, The Hive-newbie style is to keep posting new topics until they get banned. Sometimes for no real reason. See the World Editor Help Zone, for example. Sonkan1 has made lots of topics about a crap of spawning system which I answered in the first topic he made. And as far as I know he has kept creating threads and more threads.



To the suggestions, well, you are right. Skins & Models could use those suggestions. However, make Misc with name Misc/Other, as I don't think some newbies understand the meaning of Misc.

 

[brad.dude03]

Well, I think that we should use taks or keywords, like youtube. As was said above, many things fall into multiple categories, so we can leave it to the users to add tags and keywords when they upload so as to make their model available for searching.... and then have some broad categories for browsing... again, like youtube.

 

[Rui]

YouTube sure is cool. Being able to upload videos would be cool xD but that would make The Hive a generic site.

 

[brad.dude03]

Yes Yuotube is indeed cool but the Hive's focus has been and always should remain on WC3 mapping, not on viral videos, as funny as they are.

 

[darkspear]

have tags as "third category" could work as well. My point for the type category is that, that if it can't be defined as building, effect/buff, doodad, item or unit it must be so unspecified as to be useless. Thing with tags is, that beyond the range of a category a tag can be anything. So closed, non-overlapping and sufficiently specifiedcategories are vital for structure/order (kinda reminds me of my studies). But then, I can surely also imagine combinations of categories and tags

 

[Rui]

I think it should include Approved / Waiting Approval. The non-approved yet would be, of course, unable to be downloaded.

 

[Kimbo]

i agree on that rui, if we are going to reject files, why are we hosting them?

an it gets confusing to people with the "non approved" thing

 

[GoldenRam]

No, alot of people are just too god dam lazy to learn, there are plenty of tutorials.

I know how to make models in blender, I am just unable to put them in warcraft :/

 

[Rui]

Sorry, when I meant Non-Approved in the post above I meant Waiting Approval. The rejected ones should be deleted. As you just said, we don't need the files that we reject, so why waste some extra KB when we could save them for more convinient stuff?

 

[Wolverabid]

erm... I anticipate that when The Hive's official guidlines for resource submission and approval are finalized and published, all of these cloudy questions will become crystal clear. At present the existing categories seem to imply:

• Approved: A valid resource that has been thoroughly tested and found to be original and free from glaring defects.
• Non-Approved: A resource that has yet to be so evaluated.
• Ignored: A resource that has been rejected, temporarily or otherwise, for any number of various reasons.

In the future, I hope that our administration will consider adding a "Rejected" or "Unacceptable" category where these undesirable resources might posess a limited shelf life.

 

[brad.dude03]

Well, I don't think we are close to having storage issues, so keeping the rejected section is fine by me... people can look through there like it's a hall of shame... this is exactly what you shouldn't do...

 

[Kimbo]

But if a resource is to be rejected, its to be rejected, as in, too go away, not to stay, specially if it contains a virus(somehow...) or if its stolen or if it corrupts maps.

 

[Xlightscreen]

Ehh im not against putting WoW as recources but It gets abused to the point where the person who posted it acts like he worked his butt off and really made something. You could alwase post like couple dozen most common ones up as just a offical recources for anybody to use. but not allowed user submitted WoW exports.

 

[Kimbo]

Why would we do that? we don't allow wow ports and doing that wouldnt reflect good on the community, if people want wow models, then they can do it them bloody selves.

 

[HappyTauren]

1. you have to have wow to extract models (no "my friend have or i dlded it there")
2. they are laarge
3. it's easier to make a new one than to mess with them
4. it's very unhandy to remove 185849 animations
5. it lacks cretevity
6. looks to detailed in wc3 environment (compare footman to stormwind guard for example)
7. why not learn to model? there are oinkerwinkle's modeling pack, gmax, milkshape, blender... and 3ds MAX 4.2 and 5... but you wont get that anyway