Enter the Pit v1.22c

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Vengeancekael
Date: 2012/Sep/29 16:57:57
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Comment: [Approved]
You should make the Fallen Protector's small treans be controlled by the AI and thus they follow the hero around, because you can't use your hero's abilities while you have everyone selected.
Also change the Mage's Q's icon, it's not a chain lightning, it's an orb.
And why not make the ranged heros' offensive orb show up as a projectile going towards the target point instead of just appearing at the target point after a while.
Oh yeah and add more modes, which you have promised.
The AI still needs a lot of improvement, as a Priest, they just stand there and heal themselves constantly. (Oh and they walk to the same location after a while and just stand there)
The arena looks a bit dead, try adding some lower areas in the center for example, with a few statues around, etc. A thick fog would also be atmospheric.

The game really is simple as you've said so yourself, it doesn't live up to Warlock's fast-paced combat, you have less abilities and the game isn't really "flashy" looking.
I'd suggest you add a movement skill to every class, the Mage having a blink for example, the fallen protector digging himself underground and moving to a location, knocking people back, or the footman jumping.
Would also be nice if you'd add some neat, original modes.

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[Daredeamon]

This post is subject to update before every version release to announce upcoming changes.

Map has last been updated 15:31, 7th Oct 2012 UTC +10.
Check out the changelog for the updates in 1.22c

Fulk Skill Preview [NON-FINAL]

Attack: A ranged attack that deals magic damage, and leaves a poison cloud behind that lasts for 5 seconds. Any enemy that walks through the poison cloud will be given a non-stacking debuff that deals magic damage per second and lasts for 3 seconds.

Special: The Fulk will spew his innards out in a cone formation dealing minor damage. If a unit dies while under the effect of this ability, a zergling will spawn from its corpse.

Defensive: Shoots a large parasite that rests within the first enemy it encounters. If the Fulk dies while the enemy still has the parasite within him, the Fulk explodes out of the enemy's carcass, instantly killing him. (No points are changed when the defensive ability triggers.)

 

[CroMoX]

First (awww not first). Game is awesome (Since I beta tested it ), and lots of selection involved, and every champion has different styles, while some can be similar they are all unique. The terrain is standard, can't do much really with it though, since it is an arena. ALSO HAS AI OMG

Try add in a command, where the leader can change the terrain to snow or something, that would be cool.

The game can get a bit repetitive, but I geuss all games do, and the selection of different modes, and events keeps it interesting.

 

[David]

Looks awesome

 

[Statharas]

That doesn't look half as interesting as Blizzard's custom maps. So you made an arena with modes, amirite?

 

[~DARK~]

Sound Likes A Boring Game ! But Good Job Man 3/5 ! I Want RPG MAPS

 

[BlackKnightTGS]

Here's a short review/thoughts on the map:

Positives:
- A decent amount of options given to the host on game start, makes the game more varied.
- Fairly decent amount of classes to choose from, and growing with each version.
- Has AI.
- Good description here on THW, and informative and simple enough ingame.
- Credits properly given both here and ingame.
- Pretty fun and challenging gameplay for those who like skillshot arenas that require aiming, timing, and predicting.

Negatives:
- Some classes use extremely similar, if not identical, spells (i.e. Ember Cannon's Warmth and Ghost's Nightmare. Both are basically Sleep.)
- Terrain could use some more tile variety, and maybe some doodads (with no colission), such as mushrooms, some skulls, or something like that.

Notes:
- For some reason in this version, no projectile has a model while flying. Dunno if it's just me, but I can't see projectiles flying around, only see them when they impact.
- The Cyst died to 3 hits from my Ghost from the "back". Maybe make it unable to be "back"stabbed?
- Change the Loading Screen text to something else other than the changelog, like a short description on the map and how to play it, to make it more newbie-friendlier.
- The Pit Lord gets a little annoying after a while.
- It's rather hard to distinguish teammates from enemies in Team-based modes...
- The Preview Screen is rather off-place. It's Diablo. If it said "Enter the Pit" or it showed a Pit Lord (or both) then it would be more fitting.

Suggestions:
- Give players some time to read their tooltips when everyone has picked their class before the game starts, maybe? Or give that as an option for the host, for the game to start instantly or with a 5s/10s delay.
- Give players in team games one color, like, Red, Blue, Green, Purple, Yellow, etc. So, it would be Red VS Blue, Green VS Purple, Yellow VS Orange, or whatever.
- Pretty minor but, why not give the Marine a Marine icon instead of a Rifleman icon?

 

[FRENGERS]

Woow Nice 5/5 Cool and simple
You should add high resolution models as that terrain are simple ( Because it's a arena )
But you know?? Mine war3preview is white, you can fix it by convert it to TGA format
Hope....

 

[Allain55X]

Will play the game and do some investigation for bugs so I can help you on making the map better!

 

[RedClaw]

Guys listen here i played this map with Deamon and its TONS of fun.
Try it i just love playing this map!

 

[Maldruzard]

Hey there!

The game is great fun with friends, the skillshots are fun, though some classes have cooldowns on some spells that make gameplay rather annoying: I think that the Ember Wraith is a bit underpowered, once he has used his meteor AoE he is useless for a long time; make his Q more powerful or give it a lower cooldown to compensate for this?

The terrain could do with a small amount of detail, though it almost has the right balance for a map like this

Keep up the good work, simple yet awesome map!

 

[Daredeamon]

First of all thanks for commenting, and glad you liked it .

- Some classes use extremely similar, if not identical, spells (i.e. Ember Cannon's Warmth and Ghost's Nightmare. Both are basically Sleep.)

As I said in the first comment for this thread, expect changes to three classes, ghost, bandit and demon. Demon is having his abilities reworked, since they bugged sometimes, and were too powerful. Ghost is getting a whole new ability instead of sleep, and bandit is getting an almost complete make-over.

- Terrain could use some more tile variety, and maybe some doodads (with no colission), such as mushrooms, some skulls, or something like that.

I don't like the idea of tile variety, because I believe this takes away the arena feeling... As you may know, the gladiators in the roman times fought on just sand. (Reason they did this is so it would soak up most of the blood so the clean-up crew didn't have to clean up so much blood. Just as a fun fact.) However, I will most likely be adding non collision doodads.

- Units spawned from special events have normal melee or ranged attacks, making it hard and not fun trying to avoid them (and impossible for ranged ones). Would it be easy to give them attacks similar to classes? Or at least for the Cyst?

Yes, unfortunately it WOULD be hard :/ .. One pro-tip though.. Try walking by other units, as they will often choose to switch targets.

Most of your Notes and Suggestions have been taken care of in the next update.
Though the part about VengeanceKael... I presume he played 2 maybe 3 rounds... So... He didn't go deep enough and realize most of the stuff he wrote is actually minor. Also, this should not be compared to Warlock in any way, since Warlock gives you the ability to choose your abilities, whereas I don't. I do this on purpose to create player limitations so you are forced to receive help from your teammates, who have other limitations that you can help THEM with in return. It's a team-game after all and some classes will be very mode-specific.

(Also, BlackKnightTGS, +rep )

I think that the Ember Wraith is a bit underpowered, once he has used his meteor AoE he is useless for a long time; make his Q more powerful or give it a lower cooldown to compensate for this?

His main damage output is when he can complete a combo (i.e. Kindling Warmth --> Artillery --> Attack), time the artillery and attack so that they'll meet the target at the same time.
Pro-tip: Kindling Warmth has a cooldown as long as the sleep is, so it is possible to nearly perma-disable a player. He is certainly NOT underpowered.

 

[BlackKnightTGS]

As I said in the first comment for this thread, expect changes to three classes, ghost, bandit and demon. Demon is having his abilities reworked, since they bugged sometimes, and were too powerful. Ghost is getting a whole new ability instead of sleep, and bandit is getting an almost complete make-over.

Ah, didn't see the first post. Looking forward to the changes and the Fulk.

Yes, unfortunately it WOULD be hard :/ .. One pro-tip though.. Try walking by other units, as they will often choose to switch targets.

Oh, too bad. Thanks for the tip, at least.

As for the tile variation, was thinking of something like rough dirt here and there, but then, you're right. In actual arenas, there's only sand, dirt or whatever, so...nevermind what I said. xD

 

[DG.DETORAK]

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WOW this map is so cool

5/5 No comment

Wait i have something to tell The attacking mobs where choosing only one player try to make them half on one side and half on the other side so that it will be fair. ok no comment at all

 

[HOooDy]

Too Simple but 4/5 and +Rep for the efforts you've done ).

 

[Da Fist]

Few modes I suggest:

One Shot, Marked Twice - Kills any enemy unit with one shot, but if you are killed by the one you killed, he/she will get two points taken from you. Mark is removed if you are killed. Default Points 50. Most Points wins.

Base Wars ( inspired from our Filipino Game : Agawan Base ) - Assign one guardian ( optional ) for the base post. The Runners will try to *touch* the base of the other team. The *touch* is a melee attack ( no considerations! ). If one of the runners is caught ( killed. ) They will be trapped on the other teams post. They will be only released when the post is touched and is on spectator mode ( he/she can only see what his/her teammates' sees ). Most Points wins.

Pitlord's Funhouse - Pit Lord joins the fun. He casts randomly Infernals that can kill instantly on impact ( when on meteor form ) and lasts for 15 seconds. You will try to kill Pit Lord ( middle ). Since it erases the team vs team, or 1 vs all genre of the game, you will need 3 souls trapped on you ( like necromancer ) to enter the Pit Lord Funhouse. Pit Lord's Funhouse changes occasionally, shifting you in and out of battle for extra challenge. First to kill Pit Lord wins!

-Da Fist-

 

[Daredeamon]

Few modes I suggest:

One Shot, Marked Twice - Kills any enemy unit with one shot, but if you are killed by the one you killed, he/she will get two points taken from you. Mark is removed if you are killed. Default Points 50. Most Points wins.

Base Wars ( inspired from our Filipino Game : Agawan Base ) - Assign one guardian ( optional ) for the base post. The Runners will try to *touch* the base of the other team. The *touch* is a melee attack ( no considerations! ). If one of the runners is caught ( killed. ) They will be trapped on the other teams post. They will be only released when the post is touched and is on spectator mode ( he/she can only see what his/her teammates' sees ). Most Points wins.

Pitlord's Funhouse - Pit Lord joins the fun. He casts randomly Infernals that can kill instantly on impact ( when on meteor form ) and lasts for 15 seconds. You will try to kill Pit Lord ( middle ). Since it erases the team vs team, or 1 vs all genre of the game, you will need 3 souls trapped on you ( like necromancer ) to enter the Pit Lord Funhouse. Pit Lord's Funhouse changes occasionally, shifting you in and out of battle for extra challenge. First to kill Pit Lord wins!

-Da Fist-

I like your ideas, but for the most part I already have my modes planned out. The "Base Wars" idea might be something worth adding later. But that will come later

 

[FRENGERS]

Tq so much for using it @.@ hihi will improve my skill creation
Sorry if it bad Y.Y

 

[Misha]

this looks like a cool arena map to me