Dummy Caster in fog

[NightSkyAurora]

Good day everyone

I have found that some spells doesn't work properly when a victem is out of sight. Lets say for example I have a spell that stuns a target over 5 secs. So I will need to create a dummy caster at the target unit 5 secs after the spell was casted, add the stun ability and cast it. However, if the target ran away then the dummy caster won't be able to cast the dummy spell at the target if it can't SEE the target.
Any help please?

 

[Malhorne]

Set his sight vision to more XD ?

 

[NightSkyAurora]

Set his sight vision to more XD ?

And if it run to the other side of the world?

 

[Malhorne]

Oh ...
You can create the stun by pausing the unit and show the effect overhead

I am creating a debuff library but I want to be sure it works before posting it.
From what i tested it works, it is MUI, but I think it needs more test x)
Anyway i can send it to you if you really want it.

 

[Maker]

The dummy could be owned by the targeted player.

You can create the stun by pausing the unit and show the effect overhead

Don't use pause unit for spells.

 

[Malhorne]

So how can we simulate stun ?

 

[NightSkyAurora]

The dummy could be owned by the targeted player.

Kinda obvious but thanks, i'll try that

@Malhorne
I don't really know what a debuff library is

 

[Malhorne]

I want to create a library in vJASS with functions that add debuff to units.
I kinda made it but i don't know if it works in every situation.

 

[Vinz]

Yep, pausing pauses buffs, so if he had Hex then he would die. Because Stun + Prolonged Hex = death.

 

[Malhorne]

If a unit is paused and got Hex it dies ?

 

[Vinz]

I mean it would buy much time for the enemy and kill you right? That's what eventually will happen

 

[Malhorne]

Ah !
That's the problem of the map creator XD

 

[NightSkyAurora]

Pausing units pauses buff timers. So if you are hexed and then paused for 5 secs. then you would be hexed for 5 secs longer.

 

[Malhorne]

Ah ok X)
I understand better now.
So how can i simulate a stun :/ ?

 

[Vinz]

SetUnitX/Y so it 'pauses' orders, not buff. Get the unit's X/Y then set it to the same value.

 

[Malhorne]

Yes but i will have to do it so many times to simulate stun xD

 

[DivineLight]

increase your dummy's vision
and
increase your dummy's stun ability's range

 

[NightSkyAurora]

SetUnitX/Y so it 'pauses' orders, not buff. Get the unit's X/Y then set it to the same value.

You mean 'Move unit instantly'? I didn't thought of that thanks . If you use 'SetUnitX(ect...)' then it doesn't remove orders so you have to use the Trigger/GUI version. thanks for the idea ^^

 

[Malhorne]

Infact it will be better to use SetUnitPosition() since it stops the animation and everything.

 

[Vinz]

But stun doesn't interrupt order, and SetUnitX/Y doesn't, right?

 

[Malhorne]

Ah yes stun doesn't interrupt order ^^
That's true. I'll have to create a loop in my system for the stun.

 

[DivineLight]

why bother to use SetUnitX/Y if you can use storm bolt for the stun ability?

 

[Malhorne]

Because stormbolt can be dispelled ^^'

 

[DivineLight]

with? you can't dispelled stun buff with dispel magic.. i tried it when i was playing some melee map
can you test this?
i'm not sure though

 

[Vinz]

It can't be dispelled, but it can be debuffed >

 

[DivineLight]

Malhorne
you say dispelled not debuffed --"

Wrathion
why you want to debuffed it anyway?

 

[Malhorne]

Ah it cannot be dispelled ?
So i won't scratch my head against some walls and i will remove the stun function inside my library xD !

 

[NightSkyAurora]

increase your dummy's vision
and
increase your dummy's stun ability's range

Then the target will randomly become visible when the dummy shows up

But stun doesn't interrupt order, and SetUnitX/Y doesn't, right?

Nope it doesn't. Aslo moving the unit to the position of the unit using SetUnitX/Y is meaningless I think because it can still move

why bother to use SetUnitX/Y if you can use storm bolt for the stun ability?

See title and first post.

Ah it cannot be dispelled ?
So i won't scratch my head against some walls and i will remove the stun function inside my library xD !

• Unit - Remove Stunned (Pause) buff from (Your unit)

 

[DivineLight]

See title and first post.

i see the title and the first post yet i didn't found out the answer of this question in there "why bother to use SetUnitX/Y if you can use storm bolt for the stun ability?"
anyway why you need to took 5 seconds?

 

[NightSkyAurora]

It was just an example. The point is that sometimes I have to create a dummycaster at an enemy out of sight. The dummy casn't cast stormbolt when it can't see the target.

 

[Malhorne]

Stop scratching each other face ^^' !
I just wanted the debuff inside my library to be non dispellable.
Then SetUnitX() and SetUnitY() if you loop it every 0.03 on the unit position, he won't be able to do anything.

 

[NightSkyAurora]

Stop scratching each other face ^^' !
I just wanted the debuff inside my library to be non dispellable.
Then SetUnitX() and SetUnitY() if you loop it every 0.03 on the unit position, he won't be able to do anything.

Funny, I used that in a gravity-like spell and they could do enough...

 

[Malhorne]

So use SetUnitPosition() that stop movements x)

 

[NightSkyAurora]

Guess that can work as well, but Maker's idea is better for me. thanks

 

[Malhorne]

No problem : Maker is our dear Maker_Master