Dog god (dog zodiac) WIP

[rysnt11]

Private model WIP

done and need fix model:

dog god

i make this model, and have a good feed back about it, now i'm improved it, a little, here it is:View attachment 1
E: second change made, i follow peper's suggestion (not about the head...)
here it is:View attachment 2
E2: new look, added particle here and there, also add angel glow, and a ribbon emmitersView attachment 3
Working on the wrap of the portrait now
E3: portrait done

Working on model:

Illidan Stromrage

this model is base off illidan evil, i making all the parts by my self (tried..), and i see they are good as the cinematic one, i'll post here asap the model done[/qoute]

 

[-Grendel]

yup the textures fit much much better
good job!

EDIT: there's still some wrapping issues to fix. like the axe.

 

[-Peper-]

The green orc textures didn't match with rexxar textures. I suggest changing it.
And orc shaman hat is looked like a pig, so dog or wolf will be better to replace that. Other than that, very good.

 

[rysnt11]

@peperog, and wolf in wc3, isn't good, and they looks like normal 'wolf', i hate them, also, i found up the gnoll, the one that looks like a dog, but with no appropiate fang, and ears, so, i decided to use shaman's, about the lower mouth, i will change it
@ampharos: thanks!

 

[-Peper-]

Oh, well then.

 

[rysnt11]

Oh, and peper, thanks for teaching me!

I will never achieve this good model without you!
@ ampharos: yeah, the wrap on the axe mess'd up...
I'll search the other one, beside the blood elf spell theif...

 

[-Grendel]

or find another axe to re texture

 

[rysnt11]

I'll update the first post amph, i back to the basic texture of that axe, but the holder is in different texture, give me your review!

 

[-Grendel]

i mean, change the axe itself. campaign rexxar's axe is a pain to retexture(i know, i worked on it before). or, you could just put the original axe texture on it.

 

[rysnt11]

Original axe texture?
I use the original rexxar's campaign's texture, haven't you seen the first post?

 

[-Peper-]

Pretty good now
Wait, his chest awkwardly pops out of his armor in the screenshot.
EDIT: He means ingame rexxar texture.

 

[rysnt11]

@peper:The armor is placed too down, i'll fix that, thanks!

 

[-Grendel]

oh yeah didn't see that. i was looking at the first pic. my apologies. yeah looks better

 

[rysnt11]

nvm, i didn't angry at you..
Haha~
So, anything need more fix?

 

[-Peper-]

Add some godly particles and aura. He looked pretty basic now.

 

[rysnt11]

Where should i place them?

 

[-Peper-]

Anywhere

 

[rysnt11]

Anywhere?

 

[-Peper-]

Anywhere.

 

[rysnt11]

How about some sort of glow?

 

[-Peper-]

Up to you.

 

[rysnt11]

Okay..

 

[-Peper-]

Good, but particles seems clip through the armor.

 

[rysnt11]

the model got rejected by general frank
About the particle, i see what i can do with that

 

[dead-man-walking]

the model got rejected by general frank

Probably because it lacks original parts. This is not surprising since Frank is quite strict on moderating models.

Scratch random particles. Give him GODLY aura effect instead.

 

[rysnt11]

Probably because it lacks original parts. This is not surprising since Frank is quite strict on moderating models.

Scratch random particles. Give him GODLY aura effect instead.

can you describe it more?

 

[dead-man-walking]

can you describe it more?

Well, the model was mostly a mishmash of other models/geomerging, and Frank (or any model mod, for that matter) does not take kindly to simple geomerges.

Though you can just see his moderator comment or, you know, ask him personally why did the model got rejected.

 

[-Peper-]

Well, the model was mostly a mishmash of other models/geomerging, and Frank (or any model mod, for that matter) does not take kindly to simple geomerges.

Though you can just see his moderator comment or, you know, ask him personally why did the model got rejected.

Yeah, he's quite kind.
Ok, lemme do a harsh review. The parts lack original part, you could just remove those geomerge then start scratch modeling (this is complicated, so let's skip)
Second, there is no 'dog' at all. It is just a rexxar with armor and bunch o' weapon. You could try to find something more god and dog styled.
Well, maybe that's all. Let's revamp the model first by 'placing unique parts on unique place' by example, if you geomerge a claw, ordinary people attach them in the hand. But creative people (ampharos is one of them ) can make them looked like bracers, armor, ribcage
Be creative

 

[rysnt11]

Actually, it's a grunt..
Okay, so what i made here got rejected since my model lacks of original parts, & creativity
Okay, i remap all the geomerge into something special, need some time (2-3 weeks) to re mesh all the geosets
And about the concept, i make a humanoid god, in other word, a dog combined with a human body
In the time of geo merge all suggestion are WELCOME, since i'm not too creative person with something that requires minuteness...
But i'll try
Oh, and about the model, don't search it, i have deleted it

 

[dead-man-walking]

As you have said, Wc3's dog-heads are ugly. Horri-molesting-bly ugly. So create a new one from scratch.

You might actually want Chaos Orc Wolverine (a hidden, unused in-game model. I forgot the path. Just search or ask around) for the base model, having the default attack animation of slashing away (similar to grunts, but less clunky for, y'know, claws).

 

[Taff]

i make this model, and have a good feed back about it, now i'm improved it, a little, here it is:View attachment 1
E: second change made, i follow peper's suggestion (not about the head...)
here it is:View attachment 2
E2: new look, added particle here and there, also add angel glow, and a ribbon emmitersView attachment 3
Working on the wrap of the portrait now

i really liked your first model, without all this extra modifications from the users.

what u could have worked on your old model, was only perhaps changing the head, and adding colors to its right places, not to make it look like rainbow.

 

[rysnt11]

@taff: yea, i also like him in his original form, but, seems only two of us that think that dog zodiac is good in that shape...

 

[Taff]

@taff: yea, i also like him in his original form, but, seems only two of us that think that dog zodiac is good in that shape...

In my opinion its just mistake to post the models and asking for opinion of the users, every user have its different views on that model, and the model maker cant get all those opinions and put them on the model, then he'll get something so horrible..

but he will skip that thought only because most of the users like it with the modifications.

From me, to the model maker:
Do whatever you want with your model, and your model is completed when you say it is, forget what the users say, because they arnt actually the ones with that idea.

You were working to hard to this, to be ruined from bunch of members who think different then you, remember then now after you added your model for opinion, its not your model anymore, its a hybrid of 20 users.

 

[rysnt11]

Hmm..
But not too bad hearing what people says about our model, i think the feedback from user will improve our modeling skill, not ruining the model it self, altough i think he is too fat in that shape, and i will change him soon

 

[dead-man-walking]

In my opinion its just mistake to post the models and asking for opinion of the users, every user have its different views on that model, and the model maker cant get all those opinions and put them on the model, then he'll get something so horrible..

but he will skip that thought only because most of the users like it with the modifications.

From me, to the model maker:
Do whatever you want with your model, and your model is completed when you say it is, forget what the users say, because they arnt actually the ones with that idea.

You were working to hard to this, to be ruined from bunch of members who think different then you, remember then now after you added your model for opinion, its not your model anymore, its a hybrid of 20 users.

Um, well, there's a reason why they are called suggestions. They aren't meant to be taken entirely without any consideration from the modeller itself.

Here, have a wiktionary entry

(transitive) To ask for without demanding.
I’d like to suggest that we go out to lunch.

(transitive) To recommend.
The guidebook suggests that we visit the local cathedral, which is apparently beautiful.

Hmm..
But not too bad hearing what people says about our model, i think the feedback from user will improve our modeling skill, not ruining the model it self, altough i think he is too fat in that shape, and i will change him soon

As I said before, you might want to use Chaos Orc Wolverine as base model, since they have slender, muscular body comparable to grunt's, except less clunky for claws.

Also, I think the original model was a bit cluttered and messy, which probably adds another point for it to be rejected.

On another note, have you asked Frank why did the model get rejected?

 

[rysnt11]

At first, i used the chaos orc range as base model, then i see grunt, which has more muscular thingy than chaos orc range (wolferine), and it has more detail compared to chaos orc range, so i use him, altough he didn't has the claw animation..
Btw, i'm working on the new body armor now, changing the claw to Make new body armor, then about the shoulder pads, i think i will make a shiled like for that (remember, terran marine with shield on sc2?)

 

[Narogog]

looks pretty cool but its shoulders look a little bit large compared to its chest.

 

[rysnt11]

Thanks, but, which wip were you talked about?