Does Map size (literally) Afftect The Game?

[Legendary]

Hi guys can i ask? Does the Map size affect the game? example i got 256x256 if i adjust it more does it cause lag?

 

[Daffa]

256X256 is soooooo Large, did you have to make it larger?

 

[Legendary]

Yes i have a RPG map

 

[Rozll0rt]

Maybe it can affect the game play because of the lag

 

[Legendary]

Hmmm why does others don't lag?

 

[Rozll0rt]

Hmmm why does others don't lag?

There's so many reason why the map is laggy.
A. Map Initialization
1.Too many codes applied
2.Unit and Hero Creation
3.Loading the map
B. Game Lag
1.Memory leaks
GUI Leaks bro. If you are using GUI like "Pick every Unit in..." or a "Create Units at Location'' blah blah blah.
Example:

• Untitled Trigger 001
  • Events
    • Unit - A unit enters Region 0001 <gen>
  • Conditions
  • Actions
    • Unit - Create 1 Footman for Player 1 (Red) at (Position of (Entering unit)) facing Default building facing degrees

If you know these lines for Points, Unit Groups, Player Groups, Special Effects, Lightning Effects, Floating Text, and Countdown Timers:

Custom script:    call RemoveLocation (udg_*Temp variable name here*)
Custom script:    call DestroyGroup (udg_*Temp variable name here*)
Custom script:    call DestroyForce (udg_*Temp variable name here*)
Custom script:    call DestroyEffect (udg_*Temp variable name here*)
Custom script:    call DestroyLightning (udg_*Temp variable name here*)
Custom script:    call DestroyTextTag (udg_*Temp variable name here*)
Custom script:    call DestroyTimer (udg_*Temp variable name here*)

You can reduce lag

 

[Almia]

Lags can be caused by:
Not Preloading
Leaks
Corpse
Effects which have timed animations but not actually destroyed.
Strings
Crowded Units
Very slow BJs
Globals and locals

And so many units doing orders

All Players doesnt leak(except other player groups)
Timers doesnt leak
Destroy and Create lightnings
Not recycling dummies

 

[SA Dashie]

Does also depend on just how well the terrain is set out as well.
Spamming doodads really doesn't help..

^note that the All Players variable doesn't leak as it is a preset variable by Wc3. It can be overwritten and used as something else...

 

[gorillabull]

there are some tree models that can cause a lot of lag because of the way they are made this is one of them http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/models-530/themangrove-210962/?prev=search=mangrove&d=list&r=20 the model is not bad but the leaves are problematic

 

[Legendary]

So there is like 85% that the game would lag?

 

[Xonok]

So there is like 85% that the game would lag?

256x256 probably won't lag. Beyond that it might.

For some it will lag simply because it has more tiles to keep track of. That's for the people that have weaker computers(like me). I have slight lag in almost every map.

It's possible to make a map look larger by making everything smaller and zooming in, 0.5 scale is quite good.

So basically if you are making a map that big, then you need to have very good coding and design or it will lag.

 

[Legendary]

I mean not my computer but others...... in game will it cause lag?

 

[Xonok]

I mean not my computer but others...... in game will it cause lag?

If you wish then I can just test your map. I could do it quite about every day, so it'll be possible to know when it gets worse, if it does.
Usually the problem is not about map size directly, but how it's used.

 

[Legendary]

Well we don't let people test it yet.

 

[Xonok]

Well we don't let people test it yet.

I believe there should be testers in every stage of the map. Just very few at first. If no, then I can just do it later.
It's just that it's easier to find problems when there's less content available.

 

[Legendary]

hehe sure i will message you if the map is half done

 

[GreeN!X]

I think the number of imported doodads, preplaced units and periodic triggers cause lag too..

 

[Radicool]

Logically speaking, a larger map will require more computer resources. A larger map will typically have more units, doodads, etc. Since the computer needs to keep record of all these objects, there is a greater load on the computer.

Like mentioned previously, certain models can use more system resources, like that mangrove tree. I dont know much at all about models, but high detail models seem to requires more resources. Additionally, animating doodads will put greater load on the computer if there are too many of them. This is a problem when some creators use a mass of animated trees. Very laggy.

I think the number of imported doodads, preplaced units and periodic triggers cause lag too..

Imported doodads: Not neccicarily true. Depends on the model.

Preplaced Units: Yes, large masses on the map cause lag.

Periodic Triggers: Yes.

 

[Xonok]

Logically speaking, a larger map will require more computer resources. A larger map will typically have more units, doodads, etc. Since the computer needs to keep record of all these objects, there is a greater load on the computer.

Like mentioned previously, certain models can use more system resources, like that mangrove tree. I dont know much at all about models, but high detail models seem to requires more resources. Additionally, animating doodads will put greater load on the computer if there are too many of them. This is a problem when some creators use a mass of animated trees. Very laggy.

Gaias always slightly lags me due to those animated shrubs and yet it's a very well-made map. I guess this proves the point(although my computer is slightly underpowered)