Differences between modify existing object and create new object

[Super-Sheep]

How they affect to the map file size and the loading time?

 

[Day-Elven]

It's much more comfortable to use custom.

1. You can group them as you wish.
2. You can import / export them.
3. If you use Widgetizer, it's more effective with custom objects (lesser loading time)

And, the most number of spells are usually based on channel (Ancl), so you have to create custom for spells.

 

[Super-Sheep]

So the map loading time gets faster if I use "Create New"? Then I'd use them.

 

[Day-Elven]

If you optimize it with Widgetizer, yes.

 

[Super-Sheep]

+rep

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btw do anyone know, can Vexorian's Map Optimizer do the same trick?

 

[Day-Elven]

Vex optimizer don't reduce map loading time but it reduces map size better.

 

[Anachron]

He fixes also the code and does so decrease the maps loading time. So Day-Elven is wrong. But you can't know everything on the friqqin world

 

[Day-Elven]

Anachron, I meant that Vex optimizer don't create .SLK files xD
It's true that optimized codes reduces loading time slightly.

And I've never said that I'm pro in WE

 

[Anachron]

Anachron, I meant that Vex optimizer don't create .SLK files xD
It's true that optimized codes reduces loading time slightly.

Ah ok sorry I missunderstood.

 

[Super-Sheep]

But it still reduces it?

Then I can only hope, that its enough or something.

 

[Anachron]

But it still reduces it?

Then I can only hope, that its enough or something.

What is your problem exactly?

I am having an arena with about a few hundred custom units, a few hundred spells and aswell that much items,...
It doesn't lagg at any time.

 

[Day-Elven]

Map can have a big loading time, but don't lag.
It can load long, but don't lag, and vice versa.
Lags are usually caused by memfory leaks, or bad trigger algorithms, or by a bad ping of host xD.
Abilities, for example, don't lag, but they increase map size greatly.
One ability with 100 ability levels increases loading time by 10-20 seconds.

I use Vex optimizer. But if the loading time of your map is very long, maybe you should better use Widgetizer.

 

[Anachron]

Map can have a big loading time, but don't lag.
It can load long, but don't lag, and vice versa.
Lags are usually caused by memfory leaks, or bad trigger algorithms, or by a bad ping of host xD.
Abilities, for example, don't lag, but they increase map size greatly.
One ability with 100 ability levels increases loading time by 10-20 seconds.

I use Vex optimizer.

I have a spell with 500 levels and all the things I wrote in my last post together and a loadtime about 2-3 seconds.

 

[Super-Sheep]

I dont have any problems, but the other ppl in bnet have...

If the map size is too big, they wont have a patience to download the map.
If the map loading time is too long, some of them leave and/or get tired on the waiting.

 

[Anachron]

I dont have any problems, but the other ppl in bnet have...

If the map size is too big, they wont have a patience to download the map.
If the map loading time is too long, some of them leave and/or get tired on the waiting.

True, so I try to hold my map under 2mb because I have FAST DL (300 kb/sec)

 

[Day-Elven]

There know no map that have 2 sec load time.
If you use Widgetizer and your map is very small (except that ability), it's possible.
Or we are talking about different things, maybe you mean not loading time, but downloading time?

Edit: Omg =) I thought you are all talking about the loading time... So the question of the 1st post is wrong. Widgetizer decreases loading time, not download time. Download time depends only on the map size.

 

[Super-Sheep]

We are talking about both of them. You arent wrong.

 

[Anachron]

There know no map that have 2 sec load time.
If you use Widgetizer and your map is very small (except that ability), it's possible.
Or we are talking about different things, maybe you mean not loading time, but downloading time?

Edit: Omg =) I thought you are all talking about the loading time... So the question of the 1st post is wrong. Widgetizer decreases loading time, not download time. Download time depends only on the map size.

I am saying that the loading time in the bnet before playing is around 2-3 sec, even in my arena