Diablo III Warcraft Beta v1.19b

[redmarine]

Soon as I get hold of the newest inventory version, I'll start making a bunch of new items to replace the existing one If I really get into it, it shouldnt take more than a day or so lol

Ive also been doing some hardcore terraining updates xD I finally managed to find a chain model so theres some nifty looking bridges in the game now

What do you mean by the newest? My changes are compatible with all yours. Don't worry they'll work.

vJass is effective when it comes to breaking boundaries. Just get it done.

 

[Wintermute]

Played it online the other day. Tyrael's too easily defeated. We had 2 berserkers and 1 witch doctor. 40 minutes to finish the game.

 

[DrPepper1]

Holy sh*t, 147 pages?? O.O

 

[redmarine]

Holy sh*t, 147 pages?? O.O

It's a nice milestone.

We used this thread for map discussion until we got the hive forums.

 

[Palaslayer]

gogo 3 more to reach 150

 

[Oziris]

I cant wait for the 1.18 ver.
Come on....when will you post it!?!??!?!? i'm getting angry!!

 

[CloudMax]

The inventory is done, CW have done a huge amount of terraining. A bunch of bugs needs to get fixed that got reported today. And we need to get more items.
After that we will release a new version.

 

[Darkholme]

So you're going to add a save/load? Where will the character be stored? just a file? couldn't people take advantage of that? (IE Character Editing)

 

[CloudWolf]

So you're going to add a save/load? Where will the character be stored? just a file? couldn't people take advantage of that? (IE Character Editing)

Well, its going to be your standard save/load code that most maps use, so its going to be integrated into the map as triggers. To prevent cheating, we're going to have to protect the map which kinda sucks, but its only fair to the people you want to play it xD So if people dont actually have access to the code, they wont be able to forge anything

I'll probably release an unprotected modable version of the map without the save/load codes so people can still make mods if they want to

 

[CloudMax]

So you're going to add a save/load? Where will the character be stored? just a file? couldn't people take advantage of that? (IE Character Editing)

Yes we will add save/load. But we will use codes.
like -load Zomg-WTF!-WUT?-FUCK-T__T-1234-abcd-crap-THWS
Ofc they can edit characters.. And that has ALWAYS been possible in all RPG maps with save/load, you just need to know what the code means and what all characters stands for and there is nothing we can do about it.

If people want to cheat... w/e... Its their own choice if they want to be no-lifers that cheat to get the best stuff and run around "oohhh look, im imba with the best gear noobs!".

 

[CloudWolf]

Yes we will add save/load. But we will use codes.
like -load Zomg-WTF!-WUT?-FUCK-T__T-1234-abcd-crap-THWS
Ofc they can edit characters.. And that has ALWAYS been possible in all RPG maps with save/load, you just need to know what the code means and what all characters stands for and there is nothing we can do about it.

If people want to cheat... w/e... Its their own choice if they want to be no-lifers that cheat to get the best stuff and run around "oohhh look, im imba with the best gear noobs!".

lol yea We'll do as much as we can to prevent it, but in the end theres not really much we can do, as theres always going to be someone capable of deprotecting it :/

However, I was thinking we could make all codes playername specific to stop people copying someone elses code

 

[Darkholme]

I've never done much with save/load in wc3 before, just the type that saves to the DB for loading between map transitions in the original campaign.

if youre going for security, you could always hash table the final result into some gibberish ascii string for checking. Just a thought.

If you decide to make a campaign version, I'd be willing to work on building the standalone server to host multiplayer for it via warsoc. I'm sure you wouldn't release ONLY a warsoc version, but if it goes campaign instead of a single map, warsoc could be an optional way to host multiplayer games. As mentioned above, no filesize limits with multiple maps, no playercount limits, and you'd have all sorts of nifty extra stuff you could use. It could be set up to either store the character on either the client or the host, as well. Also, if done correctly, not all of the players would need to be in the same map, so players could go back and forth between maps individually.

 

[Super-Sheep]

Warsock will be released on the year 32093290309.

 

[redmarine]

Warsock will be released on the year 32093290309.

It is usable in JassNewGen but it's not a finished system yet.

 

[Darkholme]

Warsoc is done. The rest of RTC still needs work (theyre adding other functions).

But he networking stuff should all be done.

My source? Mindworx, over MSN. lol. I figure he'd know.

 

[Super-Sheep]

any release date for rtc?

I know this is getting off

 

[CloudMax]

Warsoc is done. The rest of RTC still needs work (theyre adding other functions).

But he networking stuff should all be done.

My source? Mindworx, over MSN. lol. I figure he'd know.

Dont listen to Super-sheep. He just talks shit all the time in this thread. About 85% of hes posts is anything usefull for us, he just slows down everything for us to be honest :S
But i actually didnt know that it was done. I have been quite active on the forum and read the stuff there but i havent seen anything that says that its done :S

Super-sheep, try to use visitor messages insted of posting off-topic here :/

 

[Carty]

Can you please tell me how you got the walls so steep? D:

 

[DoOs_101]

This project was overwhelming when I first saw it in gamespy. Can you believe it? Its featured in gamespy!!!

Anyways, I like what you did to the terrain, it's never been done before I give you thumbs for that!

Also I like how you build your website, very professional. Mind sharing tricks as to how you made that background position static? PM me ...

Anyways grats.

 

[CloudWolf]

This project was overwhelming when I first saw it in gamespy. Can you believe it? Its featured in gamespy!!!

Anyways, I like what you did to the terrain, it's never been done before I give you thumbs for that!

Also I like how you build your website, very professional. Mind sharing tricks as to how you made that background position static? PM me ...

Anyways grats.

oh wow xD thats awesome Mind giving me a link so I can check it out?

and yea! If youve got any questions about the website, PM them to me and I'll answer them (just to keep this thread on-topic)

 

[Darkholme]

rtc is in the new version of the Jass Newgen pack. I think he plans on doing a standalone release but no idea when itll be out. right now you need the newest Jass NewGen Pack (v 1.5) to do it though.

Point is, I'd be willing to help if this turns into a campaign. Cause a multiplayer campaign is more fun than a multiplayer map.

 

[redmarine]

rtc is in the new version of the Jass Newgen pack. I think he plans on doing a standalone release but no idea when itll be out. right now you need the newest Jass NewGen Pack (v 1.5) to do it though.

Point is, I'd be willing to help if this turns into a campaign. Cause a multiplayer campaign is more fun than a multiplayer map.

It would be an interesting option though. We'll let you know if we actually decide on doing so.

Offtopic: Btw, the dungeon keeper mod image is gone. Tell me when you're restarting it as I would really like to help if I can.

 

[Xezko]

Someone can close this thread an post a BIG link to the D3W forums...?
This thread is goin to da hell xD

 

[Darkholme]

It would be an interesting option though. We'll let you know if we actually decide on doing so.

Offtopic: Btw, the dungeon keeper mod image is gone. Tell me when you're restarting it as I would really like to help if I can.

Offtopic: Well, First I want to finish Entseed, which I will be restarting as soon as I can get wc3 to work again. However, the blizzard tech support team have not been even remotely helpful. They keep asking me questions ive already answered, and after everything they asked me if I was using vista and to run as admin, even though I had already said it was xp pro with service pack 2. -_- Fixed the images though.

Ontopic: Any progress on the random creep generation? scripting the monsters is the way to go. then it scales to the players, you can have it get tougher if the heroes are too high a level even. throiw down some harder monsters. lol

you can introduce random numbers, maybe introduce some random elites into the mix like they had in d2.

 

[saphiree]

I have a question. Have you posted any only admin stuff on this page? Cus there pops this box up asking for a username and a password. Know its off-topic, but it seemed a little strange...

 

[Darkholme]

Apparently there was an issue with my signature and where I hosted the images and it wanted people to login to see them or something. I wasnt having that issue, but seems youre not the only one. O.O I guess I can't put my pictures there anymore. OOPS.
lmao

 

[redmarine]

Apparently there was an issue with my signature and where I hosted the images and it wanted people to login to see them or something. I wasnt having that issue, but seems youre not the only one. O.O I guess I can't put my pictures there anymore. OOPS.
lmao

It works now.

Anyway, I was thinking... Would you want to create the spawning system? I know you're an expert within the fields of programming.

If you're interested then it should be very easy to use. Easily customizable.

This is what I tried a couple of months ago:
The locations where they would be spawned would be like invisible units depending on its colour, unit type etc.
If level 1 shade blablabla then create x amount of level 1 units. etc.

CloudWolf, I've figured out how to fix the flashing camera glitch. The code can be found in the forums under the bug report section.

 

[morguhl]

what should i say ? perfekt map best i´ve ever played !!! 5*******/5
hope there will be the new version in a few weeks !!! i´ll host it on b.net now !!
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WoW Ftw

 

[Carty]

Umm, does somebody know how he got the walls so steep? I tried decreasing by two but it ended up like steps. Someone help please ):

 

[Darkholme]

I would do it but I cant get my wc3 working. It wont patch and the editor is all buggy. Apparently its somethign to do with how my system is configured, but blizzard tech support has been less than helpful. If I dont figure it out in a couple days I think I might do a system format.

 

[CloudWolf]

I would do it but I cant get my wc3 working. It wont patch and the editor is all buggy. Apparently its somethign to do with how my system is configured, but blizzard tech support has been less than helpful. If I dont figure it out in a couple days I think I might do a system format.

Yea, blizzard have all but abandoned warcraft 3 now xD Technically they still have a few people working on updates, but those few people also have commitments elsewhere in blizzard, and warcraft 3 isnt exactly their top priority :/

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Anywho, awesome idea with the whole Warsoc thing! If warsoc is ever released as a stable working version ide be more than happy to have this map on there

If we ever did convert to warsoc, we'll probably have to start a new map to cope with an MMORPG style environment though, keeping the map systems of course though Not to mention it will almost certainly require us to change the name from diablo, as blizzard wont like us hosting something like this on a non-blizzard server :/

However! If it really is possible to get this working over warsoc, im all for those changes

Just out of interested, does warsoc allow for multiplayer campaign maps? :S Would be awesome if we could run the game over several maps It also means we can easily add new content as a new map xD

This is just me thinking out loud though If this ever does happen, it wont be for a long time yet. Production will carry on as normal though for a bnet release

 

[redmarine]

I would do it but I cant get my wc3 working. It wont patch and the editor is all buggy. Apparently its somethign to do with how my system is configured, but blizzard tech support has been less than helpful. If I dont figure it out in a couple days I think I might do a system format.

Try install Windows 7 RC as it would be a nice replacement for whatever OS you're using.

CloudWolf, it does work with campaign because of the nature of the software.

 

[CloudWolf]

CloudWolf, it does work with campaign because of the nature of the software.

awesome lol

By having a database and a private server, does this mean we could make the map size limitless? e.g. include as many music / imported files as we want? :O

Also, does warsoc actually work yet? xD

 

[redmarine]

awesome lol

By having a database and a private server, does this mean we could make the map size limitless? e.g. include as many music / imported files as we want? :O

Also, does warsoc actually work yet? xD

Yes. You can have gigabites of data and it would still work. WarSoc is currently working and being build on by like adding features the public wants.

Wc3:WoW will be the first mod to actually try this out on an epic scale.

 

[saphiree]

Hmm. If someone host a game on, lets say 1GB. Wouldnt it then be very very laggy unless host has a really nice internet connection like 100/100 or something.

 

[CloudWolf]

Yes. You can have gigabites of data and it would still work. WarSoc is currently working and being build on by like adding features the public wants.

Wc3:WoW will be the first mod to actually try this out on an epic scale.

Awesome Well, we can see if it works for them, then follow if it does lol

Hmm. If someone host a game on, lets say 1GB. Wouldnt it then be very very laggy unless host has a really nice internet connection like 100/100 or something.

The concept of warsoc is that the game is hosted on a server. Basically, the server would act as a game host, except the game will never end and keep going. Players can then join the map, even if its in progress. So its a bit like an MMORPG in that respect, as players can login

And yea, i think 1GB was used as a example to show its basically limitless Whatever map is hosted using warsoc would have to be built to the servers spec. e.g. if the server only has a 10mb upload speed, the maps would need to be designed to cope with this

 

[redmarine]

Awesome Well, we can see if it works for them, then follow if it does lol



The concept of warsoc is that the game is hosted on a server. Basically, the server would act as a game host, except the game will never end and keep going. Players can then join the map, even if its in progress. So its a bit like an MMORPG in that respect, as players can login

And yea, i think 1GB was used as a example to show its basically limitless Whatever map is hosted using warsoc would have to be built to the servers spec. e.g. if the server only has a 10mb upload speed, the maps would need to be designed to cope with this

Wc3:WoW will first release its singleplayer only campaign version and then it will go multiplayer. So we might have to wait quite a while until they actually do it.

Well, WarSoc allows you to actually decide which kind and how much data is transferred. Like if I want only commands for the units like: movements, attack, positions etc then that's the only data which will be transferred back and forth. This allows for efficient anti-hack and bann because if it does not correspond with what should happen then you can just kick the player.

 

[DoOs_101]

Is WarSoc development still on progress? Last time I checked they had some issues with the new patch. Anyways, I think the classes are a bit imbalanced in terms of survivability. The Witch Doctor with his healing, areal damage, and summoning spells can pretty much solo by himself, while the other two classes can't. Just note that a good game is overal good gameplay and balanced.

 

[CloudWolf]

Is WarSoc development still on progress? Last time I checked they had some issues with the new patch. Anyways, I think the classes are a bit imbalanced in terms of survivability. The Witch Doctor with his healing, areal damage, and summoning spells can pretty much solo by himself, while the other two classes can't. Just note that a good game is overal good gameplay and balanced.

Aye Were aware that the Witchdoctor is by far the best class because of his heal :S We're going to replace it with another non-healing ability for 1.18

I'm also revamping the healing globe system as we speak to compensate for the lack of healing spells in game. Each unit type will now have its own trigger, allowing us to fully control the drop rates

Plus, 1.18 is going to have more potions than previous versions which should help The full-screen inventory means the standard inventory has become to potion slot as featured in this screenshot:

http://www.diablo3warcraft.com/images/Screenshots/Screenshot_01.jpg

hope this clears some stuff up for you

 

[CloudMax]

Now we just have to request CR to create a diablo 3 command button set. Since the crystal ones doesnt fit in

 

[CloudWolf]

Now we just have to request CR to create a diablo 3 command button set. Since the crystal ones doesnt fit in

lol true The colour is right, but theyre a bit too cartoonish really arent they xD

Tbh, we might be able to find a Diablo Screenshots with some buttons we can CnP out xD Credit given for them obviously

If not, getting some new ones made would be fantastic

 

[Darkholme]

Honestly The game wouldnt have to be hosted on a server. You can't pass whole maps over warsoc, as it only works once a map is loaded.

So you would have Characters, account names, and positions stored on the server, and all of the map data would be local.

Monster generation could be done through warsoc, as could npcs, elites, and items, but all of the monster and item and character properties would all have to be stored locally.

a standalone server that receives and sends what the character's commands are would have to be implemented. So when one player goes into a map with another player in it, each player would see the other as a generic monster. Then maybe they could attack eachother, or whatever.

Warsoc wouldnt host the map so much as be a channel to pass what the each players are doing on each mapto the other players, and keep track of positions and health, and everything.

It would be like hosting a map, but the game wouldnt be running on the server, and there would be more work being done by the players computers.

 

[Tha Flamestorm]

YOU ARE KILLING ME, HOW LONG IS .18 'GUNNA TAKE?![about as long as my game is taking to get here, 'spose.]RAGH I WANT IT SO BAD, PLEASE, PLEEAAASSEEE!

 

[CloudWolf]

YOU ARE KILLING ME, HOW LONG IS .18 'GUNNA TAKE?![about as long as my game is taking to get here, 'spose.]RAGH I WANT IT SO BAD, PLEASE, PLEEAAASSEEE!

lol, its true, productions been sllow recently as ive had 5 university coursework deadlines to meet :/ However! I hadned them all in today so im officially free to work on the project now

time to get this back on track ^^

 

[Darkholme]

lol, its true, productions been sllow recently as ive had 5 university coursework deadlines to meet :/ However! I hadned them all in today so im officially free to work on the project now

time to get this back on track ^^

My old projects completely Halted because of what you just mentioned. And now that I could work on projects again, my wc3 isnt working right. lol

 

[Super-Sheep]

I never get homeworks. Sad.

 

[Tharky]

Good work guys. Loved the terrain. "99/100"

 

[redmarine]

CloudWolf, once you got some spare time could you please send me your map? My version got corrupted because of a mistake I made.

 

[CloudMax]

CloudWolf, once you got some spare time could you please send me your map? My version got corrupted because of a mistake I made.

May i ask how many times you have corrupted this map so far?
Your pro at corrupting it.
BTW, what is everyone working on right now?
Im kinda trying to fix the roll system but im completly stuck at the camera/math part...
RedMarine is doing ???
CloudWolf is doing terrain? i guess? Maybe items?

 

[GooS]

The Witch Doctor is to imba, was able to solo the complete map, including Tyrael.
Now you might want solo play to be a viable path put it seems so extreme when I can't do nearly the same with the other classes, but maybe I just can't play them.

Anyways, he's imba, and btw during said game I picked up several items that I were not supposed to be able to and the system bugged so it said I could not hold potions, but it allowed me to pick them up anyways.

About siegebreaker, he needs an order in the end of his knockback telling him to attack the target once again, because he was silly easy once I noticed that every knockback he returns to his starting position.

The Tyrael battle had the same problem, during his triggered spells you can just walk to the edge and regenerate or whatnot and enter combat whenever you like.