Diablo III Warcraft Beta v1.19b

[Frostyboy27]

Found a minor mistake, Ancient Missles which is one of the Wizards spells has a incorrect: Extended Level 3 Text Tooltip, as it has the same text as the Extended Level 1 Text Tooltip.

 

[CloudWolf]

Found a minor mistake, Ancient Missles which is one of the Wizards spells has a incorrect: Extended Level 3 Text Tooltip, as it has the same text as the Extended Level 1 Text Tooltip.

ty Ill add that to the 1.10 fix list

I have found 3 bugs in this version and 1 suggestion. The first bug is with the pathing blockers, second when the witch doctor summons hell hounds they can fall off the terrain and into the dark fog, third you have placed an wizard at the end of the map, wtf? the lvl 1 wizard is ranged, and the boss behind the door is waiting, she just attacks him and the boss cant do anything, it would be same for the witch doctor. Suggestion: The ''new inventory'' sucks, i was thinking it would open at the left corner of the screen and you can attach the item you want, and another thing: you can place an item axe at the chest, or at the ring. You should fix those bugs and listen to my suggestions.

The new inventory system is well... new? Its not going to be perfect right away as im making it from scratch Ive got LTGH working on a full screen one, but until its finished, I'll be using a basic 6 slot inventory



Another Idea I had is to change the "Revives" into lumber This would free up the 6th slot for different items These enw revives could be picked up through powerup items, and could be shared through some kind of chat command if someones running low

 

[bounty hunter2]

Here is my rating and comment after your numerous updates:

1 - 10 points go on originality
1 - 10 points go on object editor work
1 - 10 points go on scripting 1 - 10 points go on terrain
1 - 10 points go on bug free
1 - 10 points go on gameplay*/fun factor
1 - 10 points go on lag
1 - 10 points go on proper submission and crediting
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->That equals 80 points max.
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+ Cinematic
1 - 10 points on camera work
1 - 10 points on dialog
1 - 10 points on music and or voice acting
- Cinematic
Object editor work
* Not in cinematic
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That equals 100 points max.
To get a Hive grade over 1/5 at least 50% of the 80 (Triggered map) or of the 100 (Cinematic map) points is needed. That means at least 40 or 50 points. However if a map gets rated over 1/5 by me, that doesn't mean that I will imidietly vote it to be approved.

Originality: 8 points
Well as I said in my first review, it's Diablo, but you managed to put a special touch into it thus making it great.

Object editor work: 9 points
Working hotkeys, nice colors, good job.

Scripting: 9 points
Scripting isn't what makes this map so special, but it was done fine, without any flaws.

Terrain: 10 points
The terrain is amazing. After I played the map first time I thought it was great, now it is amazing.

Bug Free: 9 points
Runs fine, you managed to fix all the bugs the users posted.

Gameplay/Fun Factor: 10 points
A lot of fun. When the entire community is watching and waiting for Diablo III, you post a map like this, thus enabling us to play Diablo III. This is indeed fun to play, well done, the user interface, items, classes everything is good. The gameplay is constant and not much stopping and boring things are in.

Lag: 9 points
Fine loading time, some lag at the beginning on the map.

Proper submission and crediting: 10 points
What can I say here? I can just say that others should look up to you when it comes to submitting.

In overall: 74 / 80
92% minimal 50% met.
For the hive grade: 5/5 I suggest this map for: Approval
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In overall it is a almost flawless map. It manages to copy Diablo III in a unreal way. The terrain is perfect, fun gameplay, no bugs make this map an excellent choice for any gamer, or Diablo fan in particular. Good job and keep up the great work.

Good Luck, bounty hunter2
I might not be checking this topic for some time. If you have any questions about the review or you update the map and want me to check it again, feel free to PM me or Visitor message me at any time.

 

[Ebisux]

When you learn barbarians whirlwind, on your skill list to use it is called fury

 

[Super-Sheep]

And Barbarian fury buff stays for 1s when ability is already gone. Its aura bug. Use wait # sec and remove buff unholyaura from triggering unit. :l

 

[CloudWolf]

Thats a very good point I increased the duration from 2 to 3 seconds, and forgot to increase the sfx trigger as well ty ^^

As for the "Fury", thats just a description fault I'll fix that for 1.10


Finally, about that Diablo Boss, I want to final boss to be realistic :S I cant really see Tyrael summoning Diablo xD sorry, Nice idea though

 

[LightBloOD]

On the one hand, this is one of the best rpg maps. The terrain is as fantastic as we could see the world of diablo3. The gameplay is also brilliant.
On the other hand, i must say i don't like the spells. They should be like in the diablo3 trailer. I was dissapointed while testing the classes, their spells don't give you a good diablo feeling but normal warcraft aos feeling.. :\
that's why 4/5

 

[Super-Sheep]

It doesnt feel RPG'ish as there are no towns, shops or save/load. D:

 

[Mitchomitch]

Heyo again!

When will you add new heroes? :/

 

[Super-Sheep]

New Classes will be available as Blizzard reveal them

zzzz

 

[CloudWolf]

Heyo again!

When will you add new heroes? :/

Why does everyone ask that question? xD Just read the main post

 

[bounty hunter2]

It doesnt feel RPG'ish as there are no towns, shops or save/load. D:

Have you actually watched Blizzards Diablo III gameplay video?

 

[Oziris]

Put this model for Diablo McVexorianDiablo - The Hive Workshop - A Warcraft III Modding Site

 

[CloudWolf]

Put this model for Diablo McVexorianDiablo - The Hive Workshop - A Warcraft III Modding Site

mmm... It was suggested, but Diablo is NOT going to feature in this map I dont have room for any more custom models

the 500kb i do have left is reserved for the new Hero classes when they are released

 

[CloudMax]

mmm... It was suggested, but Diablo is NOT going to feature in this map I dont have room for any more custom models

the 500kb i do have left is reserved for the new Hero classes when they are released

Try to leave 100-200 kbs for my inventory please, it takes some space to import all those freaking models (slots).

Puuhh.. If diablo was in this map, it would ruin everything! We wouldent have anything to continue whit later on when we are making the next maps, dont forget that.

 

[Ebisux]

The thing is, theres a like drawing thing of a badass Diablo
and its the corrupt angel Tyrael
I have a feeling he will summon Mephisto Diablo n Baal somehow.


oh btw Cloud, you can do should a simple edit to Energy Strike to make it better
1.
make the effect not the sun thingly, but the red lazer model i sent u.

2. make the missle arc 0.00 not 0.20, so its more like distergrate ^_^

or just do 2 if your scared of space

 

[CloudWolf]

Try to leave 100-200 kbs for my inventory please, it takes some space to import all those freaking models (slots).

Puuhh.. If diablo was in this map, it would ruin everything! We wouldent have anything to continue whit later on when we are making the next maps, dont forget that.
But maybe we could make a badass cinematic whit some of the empty spots on the map? But dont use the spots i use for the inventorys o.o'

dont worry If we need extra space, I'll just have to remove a custom model of two i guess I think ive still got some unused imports in the map, so theres probably more than 500kb free anyways

 

[CloudMax]

I made up a cinematic base whit tyreal, if it can be used we would have a reason to why we battle him, since i dont think we have one yet.
Here we go:
When you battle tyrael. Tyrael Says: So, you have proven that you can defeat diablos best guards, now its time to see if you stand a chance to me! Prepare to battle heros.
Befor he dies. Tyrael Says: So my heros, i have teached you all well, now its time to battle diablo, the lord of devil, i hope i have teached you well.
Wait a few seconds.
ressurect her heros that have died (if a hero died)
Make tyrael summon a portal. Make the heros enter the portal.
When they are gone, Tyrael says: I hope they survive, this is our last hope.....
Fade out to a Diablo 3 Warcraft Picture.

That is a cinematic idea i made up as i was writhing it. Maybe it can be used, who knows.

 

[CloudWolf]

lol awesome

an idea I had was to recreate Tyrael destroying the worldstone, as that was the ending cinematic to Diablo II He has a nice throw animation, and I even have the model for his spinning sword lol

Although, we dont really need a reason to fight Tyrael, as hes a secret boss thats just for fun

But I'll decide this stuff later on For now im just gonna focus on the functionality of the map

 

[Super-Sheep]

Its spellt as Heroes you know? D:

 

[CloudWolf]

Its spellt as Heroes you know? D:

lol "Spellt" is also spelt "spelt"

I dont think anyone really minds about typos on forums ^^ so long as there are none in the map

 

[Super-Sheep]

self fail :/

 

[CloudMax]

Sorry, it was just a mistake i made. I almost always type wrong when i writh in forums cus im doing it as damn fast as possible cus im working at the inventory system at the same time x)

And CloudWolf. BUZZ!!! You told me to give you a buzz x)
My system, i got a problem, the inventory is made of Destructibles. But there is units on every slot, so that you can select slots, but i cant just select them, i have to drag over the units to select, does anyone know why? And is there a way to hide the selection circles of the units?
Its anoying that it appears green circles over every slot when i drag over the inventory.
Thats the only two problems i have.

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Maybe lock the camera to your hero? Thats how Diablo 1/2 worked and Diablo 3 will work. I mean, your not suppost to see where to go and everything you normally have to do somthing called "Explore" xP It would also make it easier for me to create the inventory system, becouse the players cant draw the camera to the inventory then.
But its your choise since thats a kinda hugh thing. Becouse that will change many peoples way to play

 

[Super-Sheep]

My opinion about locked camera: Sucks. ...

 

[Oziris]

but the lock camera sucks, but if you have to.

 

[CloudMax]

But why doesnt anyone say that about Diablo 2? :S
That is one of the main things in diablo 2. You have to search around, becouse its allways different, and you cant just look over the map to see where to go.

"but if you have to." That was just an idea i had, its CloudWolfs Chooise not my.
You can look on whole the map, you can see all the empty spots, you can see a boss at the upper right corner of the map. The most RPG games lock the camera (i dont mean wc3 now) I mean like real RPGs Noone says that it sucks? :S

Can anyone please tell my why it sucks? :'(
Its just more fun if you have to explore yourself insted of going single player and use iseedeadpeople and destroy a part of the fun :O

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Now about my inventory system.

As shown in the picture of my inventory, it is 4 rows, is it really needed to have 4 rows? I mean, what the heck.. This map is suppost to be for 6 players, who need 32 slots + Equipment slots & Four Potion slots.
It just takes longer for me to make the system when its 4 rows, cant i make it so that it is 2 rows. I mean, its still 16 slots.

tell me what YOU think about this please.

 

[DeathsBrother]

Must...Resist.....Fixing.....Grammar...


In related news, the map is coming along nicely, keep up the good work CioudWolf >_>

 

[Ebisux]

Wow i thought a good scene for tyrael!

in the very begining before hero selection, Show Tyrael destroying the worldstone,
make SFX effects, when it breaks, have darkness surroeend Tyrael.
Make him a doodad in the cincmaetic, as the dark is around him *keep it there*
He floats up then you cant see him
unseeable Tyrael says; please help.. me.. the worldstone.. its ... AHHHHHHHHHHHH
Imperius: Leave Tyrael, never let me see you again! You are banished from the heavens!
End of cinametic; a dark comet is falling from the sky
Oh and for a good loadscreen / anywhere have this picture

sorry for the grammar not like it ll kill you tho >.<

 

[CloudMax]

I just got a new problem... Is it possible to show a multiboard for just one player?
Im in trouble if not o.o''

Does this work:

• Player Group - Pick every player in Player Group - Player 1 (Red) and do (Actions)
  • Loop - Actions
    • Multiboard - Show Inventory_Multiboard_Items[1]
    • Multiboard - Maximize Inventory_Multiboard_Items[1]

 

[Ebisux]

LTGH im not sure i think if the gui command is just Player 1 maybe,
but read my idea above ur postt
and on page 34 at the very bottom

 

[CloudMax]

I did read your post above but i can nothing do, its CloudWolf that choose if he wants it or not. Right now he is focusing on the map, not cinematics. Atleast that is what he said.

 

[Ebisux]

But you can say if you like it..
Your his lawyer afterall

 

[CloudMax]

I guess its fine, but im not good at judging stuff >.<*

Anyway, CLOUD!!!!!!! What the heck have you done to the attribute layout T_T
Yey, first time i yell at you, i just had to do it at least one time.
Next time you change that, make sure it turns out right. That is a common problem that people get when they are new whit stuff like that or are just lazzy and dont think befor they do. xD ( You have done the same to Armor )
It looks horrible and i cant see my intelligence. (who cares......... i play barbarian)
And you get mana every second whit barbarian, and loose mana, you should fix that.
And you should also do so that you start whit 0 mana.

 

[Super-Sheep]

And you should also do so that you start whit 0 mana.

I dont get it. Now lvl 1 casters cant cast stuff.

 

[Oziris]

He meant only for barbarian. LTGH, he should not fix the ''you get mana every second whit barbarian, and loose mana, you should fix that'' that makes the barbarian great!

 

[CloudMax]

Just to make it clear if you still dont understand.
Barbarian has a trigger that removes mana from him every second. If im right.
But he also gets mana every second, hes not suppost to get mana every second.

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Cloud, you have advanced triggers added to your map, but you doesnt have it enabled? Atleast i cant find the init trigger that enables it

 

[Super-Sheep]

But he can still increase his max rage with items?

 

[CloudMax]

But he can still increase his max rage with items?

Yes, cloud wasnt smart enough to think about that x)
He gets more mana every level. Just make a trigger so if hes maximum mana changes then set it to 200. or somthing, that will make it stay at 200. :S

 

[Shadow_Strife]

k looks great, sounds great cept i cant load it, it gets to like trigger 3/# then it sais some error shit, plz help me if u know how

 

[Ebisux]

You need Wc3u look in resources;
Warcraft 3 unlimited,
CloudWolf needs his advanced triggers / other features

 

[Vegavak]

k looks great, sounds great cept i cant load it, it gets to like trigger 3/# then it sais some error shit, plz help me if u know how

You might want to through the last few pages of replies and read the part where it says you need to use World Editor Unlimited to open the map.

Yes, cloud wasnt smart enough to think about that x)
He gets more mana every level. Just make a trigger so if hes maximum mana changes then set it to 200. or somthing, that will make it stay at 200. :S

One solution to this would be to simply check whenever a hero got an item or leveled up, if the hero was barbarian, then set max mana to 200.

Can't wait to see your next project's terrain.

 

[The_Silent]

You need Wc3u look in resources;
Warcraft 3 unlimited,
CloudWolf needs his advanced triggers / other features

NEVER use warcraft 3 unlimited, the advanced triggers and a lot other special features in causes lag. Always use Warcraft Vjass Newgen instead.

 

[Super-Sheep]

I've used WEU, but I didnt find any useful features from it. Bugs only, like WEU crash.

 

[Vegavak]

If you don't like using WEU, you can open it in WEU, delete the triggers, then save it as a new name. It's able to open in the normal editor if you do that.

 

[CloudMax]

He doesnt use advanced triggers, i checked the entire triggers, cus im triggering the map also, im making a inventory as all knows, and its not enabled. At least it wasnt in 1.08 Thats the version i use for a several reasons.

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When my Inventory system is done, i will finaly get my credit in this master piece! :- )
I have already fixed one part, first slot in the inventory can equip if its a weapon x)

 

[Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo]

LTGH you need advanced vJASS knowledge to create a well working MUI/MPI Item System. Do yourself a favor and don't try to create s.th. with doodas and whatever you mentioned already.

Cloud, you could take a certain Item System that is wonderful and provides extra slots as well as special equipment slots. However it's necessary to implant the caster system by vexorian [which is hugh] and you had to change a lot variables in JASS, which isn't hard at all but might be complicated for no-JASSers at first.
Search on Wc3c for these stuff.

 

[CloudMax]

LTGH you need advanced vJASS knowledge to create a well working MUI/MPI Item System. Do yourself a favor and don't try to create s.th. with doodas and whatever you mentioned already.

Thnx for your so called "help" but well, you can create a inventory in GUI. And it will work well, but it will maybe look wierd in the world editor, but you wont see any differences if its GUI or JASS ingame. All i need to know is how the heck im suppost to do so that i can click on the icons whitout dragging over them, and im sure its a easy way to fix it but im just to dumb to figure it out.

And how am i suppost to learn if i dont try? I learned everything i know myself...

But if i get any big problems, i guess we have to find someone who want to create a system that looks like my in JASS.
Im creating a new one becouse there is noone that looks like the diablo 2 one. But of what ive heard, the diablo 3 inventory will be like in World of Warcraft. You will collect bags to get more slots and such.

 

[CloudWolf]

gaaagh, that took a long time to read through lol Let me know if I've missed anyone out on this post:

LTGH: If the inventory system really is being that much of a pain, I can always get one of the spell peeps to make it You'r still needed either way, as you answer a lot of peoples questions for me which helps If/when we get this project hosted on the hive, I'll make you a mod for the forum

But its up to you Carry on if you can manage it

As for the inventory slots, Ive only changed them while my inventory system is in the map I can change it to whatever you need when we put yours in

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Ebisux: I appreciate the ideas you've been giving us, but I dont really want to change anything at this stage in production :S As soon as I start my next map though, I'll be all up for new ideas

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I actually used to have a fixed camera from 1.00 - 1.02 I took it out though because it was kinda awkward in game :S The steep cliffs emant that half the time your hero wouldnt actually be centred, as the camera would be going up and down with the terrain heights xD

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As for the WEU questions, I've been using NewGen from the begining, but ive had the button clicked that says "integrate WEU". I dont remember using any of the advanced triggers, but I'll take a look at them all just to make sure

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As for the rage system, I agree, It is kinda buggy :/ For some reason I cant set his mana regen to 0. Every time I do, It still regenerates in game.

It also hadnt occured to me that his mana increases with attached items xD Ill create a trigger for 1.10 which sets his mana to his default every time he picks an item up Ty for the idea!



Right! hopefully thats everything Im currently working on a detailed spell list for the new trigger spells, so expect to see some newer / nicer skills in the upcoming versions

 

[CloudMax]

He generate mana becouse the intellect adds mana reganeration, thats what cause the problems.
We just need to calculate how much mana he regenerates every second and set the mana regeneration to - that value.
Hope you understand what i just said.

Okey, done. He regenerates 0.75 mana per second whit 15 in intellect. So just set his mana regeneration to -0.75

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Have you seen that the attribute and Armor amount looks wierd? It appear on new rows. You should fix that.

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The inventory system is going fine and its almost at the usable stage. I tought it would take a long long time, but it goes pretty fast.
The system is just for player 1 atm but i just have to copy the trigger and make it for every player.
(i said trigger and not triggers becouse im making everything expect enter/exit inventory in one single trigger, kinda messy. As fast as i leave the computer i forgot what the heck all my varibles is for xD)

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New picture uploaded:
http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/members/136024-albums1113-picture8338.html

 

[redmarine]

He generate mana becouse the intellect adds mana reganeration, thats what cause the problems.
We just need to calculate how much mana he regenerates every second and set the mana regeneration to - that value.
Hope you understand what i just said.

Okey, done. He regenerates 0.75 mana per second whit 15 in intellect. So just set his mana regeneration to -0.75

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Have you seen that the attribute and Armor amount looks wierd? It appear on new rows. You should fix that.

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The inventory system is going fine and its almost at the usable stage. I tought it would take a long long time, but it goes pretty fast.
The system is just for player 1 atm but i just have to copy the trigger and make it for every player.
(i said trigger and not triggers becouse im making everything expect enter/exit inventory in one single trigger, kinda messy. As fast as i leave the computer i forgot what the heck all my varibles is for xD)

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New picture uploaded:
http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/members/136024-albums1113-picture8338.html

It would perhaps be more efficient if you made them all in one trigger. Number of Triggering Player?