Defend - an ability overhaul v. 1.2b

[Moderator]

20:39, 22nd Nov 2013
Maker: The system is useful and it works

 

[Kazeon]

hey, first advice. post the trigger...
if you have problem with "wait" action, I can make the custom one for you if you want it.

hey fix your test map, the orcs wont attack my unit. so how can I test you spell then? :/

 

[Sinthoras]

Hello :3

hey, first advice. post the trigger...
if you have problem with "wait" action, I can make the custom one for you if you want it.

Well... Im a super nub so no idea how to post triggers. I remember in the past I attempted to replace waits with a "timer expires" event, however I wasnt able to add an array to the timer in the event so it completely defeated the purpose of it making it not MUI. I really want to get better at this now though, that is why I posted this simple spell here to get a feedback. =D

I will post the triggers here once I figure out how..

 

[Kazeon]

how to post the trigger:
1. open the trigger editor. right click at the header of each trigger

• Disable spellbook

that one. select copy as text.
2. open your browser.. paste it between [ TRIGGER ] [ /TRIGGER ] without space in the tags

 

[Sinthoras]

how to post the trigger:
1. open the trigger editor. right click at the header of each trigger

• Disable spellbook

that one. select copy as text.
2. open your browser.. paste it between [ TRIGGER ] [ /TRIGGER ] without space in the tags

God bless figured it out

 

[Kazeon]

congratulations

well, this is the first time I see an indexing like that. It's actually works 100% but I dont know mods will approve it or not (as far as I know mods never lets spell with polled wait approved) but anyway, good luck with it,..

 

[Sinthoras]

hey fix your test map, the orcs wont attack my unit. so how can I test you spell then? :/

The trolls are too strong, they are there to demonstrate the deflection by the guards (they die in one deflect). You can walk up to the neutral camps and try it out yourself there. Thats how I intended it anyways, shoulda written it in the description :/.

congratulations

well, this is the first time I see an indexing like that. It's actually works 100% but I dont know mods will approve it or not (as far as I know mods never lets spell with polled wait approved) but anyway, good luck with it,..

I understand. Ive been lectured on the waits before... The thing is I have no idea how to replace them, Ive tried a lot of methods before but in the end they always create more problems than they solved. Maybe if I created a timer event for every index from 1-100 individually to replace the waits. This would be semi MUI as long as there arent over 100 units casting at the same time (I think???). However this would 1. take ages to create all the triggers 2. take up so much space itd look disgusting. Im too dumb for this v_v.

PS: I should really just edit my posts instead of clogging up the space here. GJ ME

 

[Maker]

• Get rid of the wait, use a timer or timers instead
• The variable names are too generic
• Abilities must support levels
• The movement speed could be set at object editor, that way it is displayed in
  red in the tooltip like for the default Defend ability

 

[Sinthoras]

• Get rid of the wait, use a timer or timers instead
• The variable names are too generic
• Abilities must support levels
• The movement speed could be set at object editor, that way it is displayed in
  red in the tooltip like for the default Defend ability

To adress this:
As I said waits are my weakness.

I dont see any reason to change the variable names - doesnt seem very important. But I suppose it could be done if someone wants to copy this spell into his map where hes already using those variable names for something different.

As for the leves, wouldnt be too hard but Id first like to get rid of the wait somehow.

I tried setting the movement speed at object editor but it doesnt work for the passive ability only the toggle, so I had to set it in the trigger.

 

[Kazeon]

I will give you an example how to make a custom wait. But you have to learn a proper indexing first. I will get the link for you..

here open this. it's the easiest indexing for GUI

 

[Sinthoras]

I will give you an example how to make a custom wait. But you have to learn a proper indexing first. I will get the link for you..

here open this. it's the easiest indexing for GUI

Wow that looks... hard as fk. Well Ill give it a try. Id like to get at least something approved on this page.

 

[Kazeon]

it "just" looks hard. you are just too lazy to read it completely.. I have recently learn something. you can also use countdown timer to make this works. I bet your system fails because you use timer variable with array. you should initialize the variable first.
use custom script

• Custom script: set udg_countdowntimer[index] = CreateTimer()

 

[Maker]

...if someone wants to copy this spell into his map where hes already using those variable names for something different.

Exactly. Those variables must not be used for anything else in the map than for this spell.

I tried setting the movement speed at object editor but it doesnt work for the passive ability only the toggle, so I had to set it in the trigger.

Set it for the spell that is based on Berserk.

 

[Sinthoras]

it "just" looks hard. you are just too lazy to read it completely.. I have recently learn something. you can also use countdown timer to make this works. I bet your system fails because you use timer variable with array. you should initialize the variable first.
use custom script

• Custom script: set udg_countdowntimer[index] = CreateTimer()

Yeah Im starting to get a hold of it. I was using a countdown timer with an array action yes. In the second trigger Id use "the timer has expired" as an event however I wasnt able to put an index variable as an array in the second trigger determining which timer Im refering to, so there was no point to use it.

I dont understand the custom scripts too well. If I fail to understand the tutorial I might PM you later on and ask for some questions. If you dont mind of course.

Edit: Nvm, I think I understand the tutorial perfectly. I will try to correct my spell now and update it once I get it working. Maybe make it a hero ability with levels as well. =D

Exactly. Those variables must not be used for anything else in the map than for this spell.



Set it for the spell that is based on Berserk.

I understand. Didnt realize berserk has an option to limit movement speed as well. Sorry

 

[Maker]

Set the time to 4 + level of ability in the cast trigger, then subtract from it in the looping trigger. Then you only need to check <= 0.

 

[Sinthoras]

Set the time to 4 + level of ability in the cast trigger, then subtract from it in the looping trigger. Then you only need to check <= 0.

Damn I shoudlve noticed that, too tired to think atm. Well it wouldnt work if I used more complex non linear durations (or maybe you would prove me wrong once again). Ill fix that right away.

As for the rest of the stuff, is it alright?

EDIT: Did as you told me to, the loop trigger looks overall more smooth now without "if" conditions for every level of the spell. Hopefully thats all.

 

[Hazop]

Can you make a passive version that has a % of deflecting?