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Death Penalty

Discussion in 'Off-Topic' started by mckill2009, Jul 1, 2013.

  1. The Wizard

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    To make others think twice before doing such a thing.

    Only christians have to read Bible. And I still don't get what the crap is ">implying you can be a real christian without reading the bible"

    If you don't know anything, don't talk about it. It's just no good.

    Okay, but the best way to pay for murder is to suffer.

    Checkmate.
     
  2. trolman

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    thats what jail is for

    but inorder to become a real christian you gotta read the bible first (yes random spectators, im highjacking this thread aswell)

    No.

    >implying I posted a picture like that
     
  3. The Wizard

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    Some crimes are beyond jail's level.

    >implying I wanted to become a christian

    Yes.

    Happy trolling. Way too fat, I should mention. But that picture is still in my post, so Checkmate again. Oh yeah, and edit stamp on yours.
     
  4. trolman

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    Like?

    Fahgettaboudit

    But can you explain why?

    [​IMG]
     
  5. The Wizard

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    Like Breivik's, haven't I mentioned it?

    You first.

    And will you listen to me? I doubt.
     
  6. trolman

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    But that guy was an anti-muslim zionist, its pritty clear he's mentaly unhealty just from that but later they proved he had other problems, do you think that if there was a death penalty in norway, he wouldnt have fragged all those people? Killing him would bring the children back, it wouldnt help the families either. Life in prison is better, make him shovel snow for the rest of his days.

    It wont hurt if you tried.
     
  7. The Wizard

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    Let it be so. I'm tired already. If you want, you'll surely find right instances.

    Once again. When you see anyone being tortured for rape, you lose any ideas such as rape on your own, don't you?

    Well, that isn't correct for mentally ill. Such as them should be detected before any accidents.
     
  8. trolman

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    "The old law of an eye for an eye leaves everyone blind."
    -Martin Luther King

    If you alread have serious toughts about raping someone, than seeing someone get tortured for it wont really make those thoughts go away, infact it will make the rapist more prepared for the rape. Most crimes are spontanious and in that nature the criminals make plenty of mistakes which leads to them getting caught.So rape numbers wont really drop but less rapists would get caught. And what if the rapist just doesent care if he gets caught. Torture is just barberic, why dont you start wearing leaves too? As long as a country's IQ stays high enough, torture would never be approved.

    When you think about it, death is alot easier compared to spending 50 years trapped in a cage, beeing a wife to some gorilla.

    Intrestingly enough there is a way that this is possible:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFQCYpIHLNQ
     
  9. The Wizard

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    Read Dostoevsky's "Crime and Punishment". You'll see what does crime do to a criminal's mind. Crime isn't like going shopping to the store.
     
  10. trolman

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    But what if Raskolnikov did not feel remorse after killing the two women? Infact his murder was quite planned and not spontanious like most murders.

    Also do you think he would have turned himself in in if the sentance was torture and death, rather then penal servitude? Even in the end he manages to redeem himself thanks to his wife's support.
     
  11. The Wizard

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    I see, you've googled it, but haven't read. Crime was the only thing on his mind since it happened.
     
  12. trolman

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    But thats so unrelated! You know people are diffrent and some might think about the crime later and some will just not care and get away with it. Plus the whole book is against your torture death idea.
     
  13. Ender

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    I support the death penalty. A problem with "Life imprisonment" is it usually means 8 to 20 years (At least in the USA, UK and a host of other countries).

    Is 8 to 20 years the value of a human life?

    Now, if we knew that that a specific person was never going to commit a crime again Then yes having them serve that period of time would be fine.( for example most non-premeditated murders 8 to 20 years is probably good, most of them will probably never kill someone again)

    So lets look at real life imprisonment, Think of the cost of housing the person and providing them medical care, its not worth it.
    Now I do realize that currently the expense of The Death Penalty is Ridiculously high. And they house the people for a way too long of time before killing them. (I do realize that it is meant to prevent them from killing innocent people) But there has to be a better way then having those thousands of appeals etc.. like having exactly one appeal to a higher court at a fixed date from the original conviction. Which decides whether there is enough evidence to warrant their execution and then sends them off at dawn the next day.

    Would you like to live next to someone who is a paroled serial killer?

    When Life in prison doesn't mean Life
    A little on Repeat offenders in the UK
     
  14. The Wizard

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    I don't care.
    You don't know what a crime is. Only those who do it like everyday deed don't care of any in particular. For any normal man the mental punishment comes along with crime. Or even, in this case, before, because Raskolnikov was planning this.
     
  15. trolman

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    @Ender
    Those 8 to 20 years are ment to prevent the person from doing harm to the outside and hopefuly reabilitate them into society.
    Why waste money on a tunnel when you can just give a bunch of prisoners shovels.

    @Wizard

    Youre going back to "have a good day" mode again. I dont know what a crime is? Huh?

    But if every criminal is mentaly punished then how does crime become an everyday deed without moral remorse insome. Plus Raskolnikov is a literraly character, he will do whatever the author tells him.
     
  16. mckill2009

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    I changed my mind, instead of giving them instant death, torture them first then burry them alive or :goblin_boom:
     
  17. Hakeem

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    No.

    The reason why is simple.

    We stopped doing that a long time ago.

    Why did we stop doing it?

    It should be pretty obvious.

    People have become more civilized.
    Then die.
    Yes, generally, you aren't a fan of book before you've even read it.
    Why?
    That, or you acquire a sexual pleasure response to pain, torture and death, in addition to rape.
    Yes, because people are idiots and never avoid detection nor know how to do so.

    The easiest way to detect someone with malicious intent is to raise them to believe there are no consequences for their actions. They'll have no reason to censor themselves in any way, and their true intentions will be incredibly easy to spot.


    Of course that means not raising your child to understand morals at all.
     
  18. trolman

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    Werent you a christian?
     
  19. mckill2009

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    I am but some Christians like me hate those grave crimes so much that I would be happy to let them suffer a painful death...
     
  20. trolman

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    :con: