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This is messed the fuck up... really...

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This was in my local news paper today... I though I should share...

From the New York Times:

DARDENNE PRAIRIE, Mo., Nov. 21 — Megan Meier died believing that somewhere in this world lived a boy named Josh Evans who hated her. He was 16, owned a pet snake, and she thought he was the cutest boyfriend she ever had.

Josh contacted Megan through her page on MySpace.com, the social networking Web site, said Megan’s mother, Tina Meier. They flirted for weeks, but only online — Josh said his family had no phone. On Oct. 15, 2006, Josh suddenly turned mean. He called Megan names, and later they traded insults for an hour.

The next day, in his final message, said Megan’s father, Ron Meier, Josh wrote, “The world would be a better place without you.”

Sobbing, Megan ran into her bedroom closet. Her mother found her there, hanging from a belt. She was 13.

Six weeks after Megan’s death, her parents learned that Josh Evans never existed. He was an online character created by Lori Drew, then 47, who lived four houses down the street in this rapidly growing community 35 miles northwest of St. Louis.

That an adult would plot such a cruel hoax against a 13-year-old girl has drawn outraged phone calls, e-mail messages and blog posts from around the world. Many people expressed anger because St. Charles County officials did not charge Ms. Drew with a crime.

But a St. Charles County Sheriff’s Department spokesman, Lt. Craig McGuire, said that what Ms. Drew did “might’ve been rude, it might’ve been immature, but it wasn’t illegal.”

In response to the events, the local Board of Aldermen on Wednesday unanimously passed a measure making Internet harassment a misdemeanor punishable by up to a $500 fine and 90 days in jail.

“Give me a break; that’s nothing,” Mayor Pam Fogarty said of the penalties. “But it’s the most we could do. People are saying to me, ‘Let’s go burn down their house.’”

St. Charles County’s prosecuting attorney, Jack Banas, said he was reviewing the case to determine whether anyone could be charged with a crime. State Representative Doug Funderburk, whose district includes Dardenne Prairie, said he was looking into the feasibility of introducing legislation to tighten restrictions against online harassment and fraud.

In seventh grade, Megan Meier had tried desperately to join the popular crowd at Fort Zumwalt West Middle School, only to be teased about her weight, her mother said. At the beginning of eighth grade last year, she transferred to Immaculate Conception, a nearby Catholic school. Within three months, Ms. Meier said, her daughter had a new group of friends, lost 20 pounds and joined the volleyball team.

At one time, Lori Drew’s daughter and Megan had been “joined at the hip,” said Megan’s great-aunt Vicki Dunn. But the two drifted apart, and when Megan changed schools she told the other girl that she no longer wanted to be friends, Ms. Meier said.

In a report filed with the Sheriff’s Department, Lori Drew said she created the MySpace profile of “Josh Evans” to win Megan’s trust and learn how Megan felt about her daughter. Reached at home, Lori’s husband, Curt Drew, said only that the family had no comment.

Because Ms. Drew had taken Megan on family vacations, she knew the girl had been prescribed antidepression medication, Ms. Meier said. She also knew that Megan had a MySpace page.

Ms. Drew had told a girl across the street about the hoax, said the girl’s mother, who requested anonymity to protect her daughter, a minor.

“Lori laughed about it,” the mother said, adding that Ms. Drew and Ms. Drew’s daughter “said they were going to mess with Megan.”

After a month of innocent flirtation between Megan and Josh, Ms. Meier said, Megan suddenly received a message from him saying, “I don’t like the way you treat your friends, and I don’t know if I want to be friends with you.”

They argued online. The next day other youngsters who had linked to Josh’s MySpace profile joined the increasingly bitter exchange and began sending profanity-laden messages to Megan, who retreated to her bedroom. No more than 15 minutes had passed, Ms. Meier recalled, when she suddenly felt something was terribly wrong. She rushed to the bedroom and found her daughter’s body hanging in the closet.

As paramedics worked to revive Megan, the neighbor who insisted on anonymity said, Lori Drew called the neighbor’s daughter and told her to “keep her mouth shut” about the MySpace page.

Six weeks later, at a meeting with the Meiers, mediated by grief counselors, the neighbor told them that “Josh” was a hoax. The Drews were not present.

“I just sat there in shock,” Mr. Meier said.

Shortly before Megan’s death, the Meiers had agreed to store a foosball table the Drews had bought as a Christmas surprise for their children. When the Meiers learned about the MySpace hoax, they attacked the table with a sledgehammer and an ax, Ms. Meier said, and threw the pieces onto the Drews’ driveway.

“I felt like such a fool,” Mr. Meier said. “I’m supposed to protect my family, and here I allowed these people to inject themselves into our lives.”

The police learned about the hoax when Ms. Drew filed a complaint about the damage to the foosball table. In the report, she stated that she felt the hoax “contributed to Megan’s suicide, but she did not feel ‘as guilty’ because at the funeral she found out Megan had tried to commit suicide before.”

Megan had mentioned suicide several times, her mother said, but had never attempted it, and no one who knew her, including her doctors, felt she was suicidal.

On the advice of F.B.I. agents who did not want the Drews to learn of their investigation of the hoax, Ms. Meier said, her family said nothing publicly about the case for a year. Today, the Meier and the Drew families continue to live four houses from one another on a winding suburban street.

“There are no words to explain my rage,” Ms. Meier said. “These people were supposed to be our friends.”


I mean really... this was messed the fuck up. =[
 
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I read it all... it depressed me... and I feel like those people should be incriminated for inpersenating... SOMEBODY! I mean for christ sake, it's one thing that she actually flirted with a teenage girl of the same sex, but then to brake up with her after that? That is a cruel, cruel man... or woman at that. I do find it... quite... unfortunate, but unintelligent that she killed herself. Well, anyway, sad stuff. Good job with the CnP.
 
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Well... how do you really know that? She was an immature little girl, this was probably the first... and final time her heart was broken. So, how can we really judge her, she could've grown up, and then had a life worth living. Maybe she'd still be playing Volleyball or something, I'm trying to be positive here... I've been pointing out the negatives most of the time I've noticed.
 
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Unfortunate... but the girl is ridiculous for killing herself because of that.

She was on anti-depression medication. The only reason you get prescribed that is if you actually have a chemical imbalance in your brain causing depression, and even with the medication severe emotional shocks can still causes your system to become imbalanced, which quite likely contributed to her suicide.
 
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As wicked as Mrs. Drew's thoughts and intentions were, she was not impersonating anyone. It's the same as a movie actor having a fake name for the show-business. And as far as anyone knows, she was not harassing Megan. Harassing means to provoke because you know you will get a rise out of someone. Harassment, as it is, is very sketchy, and can only be used against a defendant is if, as mentioned, they have proof that the defendant knew how the person would react.

If Megan killed herself "now", it does not mean she would later. That's a retarded assumption.

You have to realize, other kids knew what was going on, at least on Mysapce, and they joined in on the name-calling and put-downs. They are just as guilty of contributing to the effects that led to Megan's death.

Public schools suck, and private schools are just privately-public. Parents should raise their children and not let others, teachers and friends, instill bad qualities in their child. Then again, to not raise you own child is a bad quality, so who knows what.
 
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"and it was girl"

So? Please take the feminist bull out of here. Females do not deserve some superior treatment in life because they have a vagina and a pair of titties. They do not have superior value over others simply because they get periods. I can't stand it when people think like that.
 
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"and it was girl"

So? Please take the feminist bull out of here. Females do not deserve some superior treatment in life because they have a vagina and a pair of titties. They do not have superior value over others simply because they get periods. I can't stand it when people think like that.

I understand that part yes, i just bring up "IM FEMALE, GIVE AWESOME RESPECT" as a joke, hell i can be pretty sexist to my own gender at times. But seriously, you should take account of gender, but not put it as such a large factor in situations (well, obviously some but not this one..., but you get what i mean, i think).

As for the girl, she is young, she is depressed, and thus, she is pretty easy to manipulate and destroy so its not pretty solid to call her stupid and weak. The ..er...faker person wasn't impersonating, rather much, she was being manipulative and malicious, she did want to cause damage but I guess she is in deep shit now since the girls dead.
But people fuss over this far too much, lots of people impersonate, fake and make up alias' and shit, its the internet and the internet is a great place for such things, it happens and sometimes you just end up with a little emo girl, nothing too abnormal of it as im sure people here, well a LOT of people have done such things, minor or not.
 
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Sorry, but that may be "cruel" to some of you people, but really... killing yourself after getting in a fight with an ONLINE boyfriend you've never met? Reminds me of the fake Harry Potter book (if that little incident actually ever happened, anyway) -_-
If you're going to kill yourself... please do it with good reason, but then it's still stupid
Then again, I can understand why they're angry. Shit, I'd kill Ms. Drew if that was me with the daughter most likely

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Sorry, but that may be "cruel" to some of you people, but really... killing yourself after getting in a fight with an ONLINE boyfriend you've never met? She must've had some kind've mental issue. Reminds me of the fake Harry Potter book -_-
If you're going to kill yourself... please do it with good reason, but then it's still stupid

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Seems like you didnt read it Supa.
 
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Psychological Depression (or Clinical Depression) and being depressive(mood-wise) are not the same thing, depression mental is a serious thing which leads to and contains delusions, paranoia and mental trauma, a VERY serious matter than some simple angst.

ps, I like how people edit their posts and yet I quoted them.
 
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"and it was girl"

So? Please take the feminist bull out of here. Females do not deserve some superior treatment in life because they have a vagina and a pair of titties. They do not have superior value over others simply because they get periods. I can't stand it when people think like that.

Feminism is the term to describe the belief that men and women should be treated equally, not that women should be treated as superior. Learn what you're whining about before you whine about it. Honestly, you're a bit over the edge, your "anti-superiority" thoughts seem to carry a sense of ignorance. Not all women feel that they're superior because of, as you so bluntly put it, "having a vagina and a pair of titties and getting periods."

Now, that said, you took his text completely out of context. As I read it, my impression is that he was referring to the fact (or popular opinion, whichever) that teen girls tend to be melodramatic and emotional.

FYI, periods are not a bundle of fun, nor a convenient excuse to get attention.
 
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Listen. She was depressed. Ms. Drew knew that, and I quote:
Because Ms. Drew had taken Megan on family vacations, she knew the girl had been prescribed antidepression medication, Ms. Meier said.

If she didn't know the potential outcome of this, she should have. Telling Megan that the world would be a better place without her? Fucking hell.

And all this because Ms. Drew and her daughter wanted to 'mess with' Megan for moving to another school and telling Ms. Drew's daughter that she no longer wanted to be friends.

Sure, with that last part it seems as if no one is innocent, but from what I gather Ms. Drew's daughter was upset, not potentially suicidal.

Sorry, had to get this off my chest, even if its inaccurate and mis-informed.
 
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"and it was girl"

So? Please take the feminist bull out of here. Females do not deserve some superior treatment in life because they have a vagina and a pair of titties. They do not have superior value over others simply because they get periods. I can't stand it when people think like that.

It means that girls have more 'Emotion cells' or something in they're brain, that part is bigger and with boys its smaller. So girls often have more problems with insults and the thing only was 13. you really can't think like this or understand what im trying to say?
 
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Kaitech[SanD];384461 said:
Didn't some WoW addicted nerd do the same thing like this because he got killed in PVP or something? You Americans are suicidal... But that woman who decided to tease her, why? What did she do to deserve it? But then again, there was no need for her to sling herself, seriously.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_suicide_rate
Even Canada has more suicide than USA. But seriously the Americas have low suicide rates compared to the eastern world.
 
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Its shocking to read and although I strongly think the woman down the street should be prosecuted, I still think the girls mum is as much to blame.

I guess you can never really know what was going on in the family, but if her daughter was in such a depressive state she commited suicide, why did the mum not do anything?
Anti-depressant pills for a 13 yr old girl ...?
 
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That's very sad to hear, and definitely very hard on her family. :sad:

The actions of the other woman certainly were foolish and irresponsible, but the blame cannot be placed any one way. There are just too many factors involved that all equated to an unfortunate death.

And by the way, speaking of feminism...maybe it does seek for women and men to be regarded equally (which, although both genders are very different, an equal amount of respect for both is definitely a noble and worthy goal), feminism very often gets blown far out of proportion in society today and sometimes results in a strong air of feminine "superiority".
 
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And by the way, speaking of feminism...maybe it does seek for women and men to be regarded equally (which, although both genders are very different, an equal amount of respect for both is definitely a noble and worthy goal), feminism very often gets blown far out of proportion in society today and sometimes results in a strong air of feminine "superiority".

Oh, I agree. Most of the "feminism movement" (which really shouldnt be called that, as they're basically groups for hating on guys) groups are complete bullshit, and most of them are so obsessed w/ man-woman equality, and feel so strongly that all men are sexist pigs, that they cant function in society because they cant deal w/ it.

I was in no was supporting feminism in my post, I was just pointing out how wrong he was.
 
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Try not to speak ill of the dead... unless they deserved it.

hahaha

Sidenote:
Hitler was forced into his world. Only a dictator has more control over what happens than a representative like Hitler, and even still a dictator is influenced by his undies (haha). Hitler was pumped full of drugs on a daily basis and spoke for the people under him (his undies). Just because his country men and women respected him (either willfully or out of fear does not matter) doesn't mean they all agreed with him. And though i don't condone murder of any kind, i bet Hitler never took a single life by his own hand.

Even wrong people think they're right.

"Anti-depressants cause suicide. The only person who should be punished for her death is the person cramming that shit down her throat."
-Sensui

Here here.
 
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The only person who should be punished for her death is the person cramming that shit down her throat.
I'd agree with you, but:
Because Ms. Drew had taken Megan on family vacations, she knew the girl had been prescribed antidepression medication, Ms. Meier said. She also knew that Megan had a MySpace page.
I'd say there was malicious intent here.
 
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As far as I know, in the studies that have been conducted, anti-depressants were only linked to increased suicidal thoughts in teenagers, not increased suicidal actions.

Anyways, yes suicide over internet-related incidents is funny, but not when it actually happens. Especially not when the straw that broke the camel's back was a middle-aged woman. Well okay, that's actually outrageously funny, but try to show just a little respect.
 
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I can't believe people can get so crazy over shit on the internet... Speaking with anyone over the net is still just a virtual person that you will probably never ever meet in your lifetime, so why even consider any stupid insults from that person?
 
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Ban myspace. Too many predators and the like.

If I insulted you, would you go slice your wrists open? No, you would probably take it with a grain of salt and assume I am a jerk.

Real life people have been really friendly, then turned around and been bastards. These are REAL LIFE PEOPLE. I actually knew them and saw them face-to-face. My wrists remain intact.

I have statisitic for you, females are 6 times more likely to attempt suicide,but males are 8 times more likely to succeed.
 
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