Darrow City BETA 2.0c

[xorkatoss]

This is what i think about the map...

Firefighter
It's a rather easy job but it takes a while to take out the fire...
Maybe you could increase the damage a bit...



Curator
Pretty much an easy job since all you have to do is clean the artifacts...
Also if the artifacts are cleaned and you clean them you still get gold...



Reporter
I can't comment for this job because im not sure what im supposed to do...when i check Help there seems to be some sort of bugs which doesn't show help for reporter...you should have a look at that...



Postal Worker
I couldn't try this job either because i didn't knew where i could get mails to deliver them...maybe you should improve the Help about Postal Worker...



Animal Control Officer
This job was fun, but i got bored after a while of doing the same thing over and over...(capture animals and put them in cage)
IMO for such an easy job the payout is a lot, you should lower it...



Going to Jail for attacking an officer
how long do i spend in jail for attacking an officer?-.-
i was in jail doing nothing for about 1 minute and i got really mad and rage quited!!
also i tried to repick but it didn't work...is it supposed to if you are in jail?



Gym
The gym is a pretty easy and fast way to increase your stats...
but why after some hits it stops attacking? i would prefer it if i could go afk for 10 mins(example) and when i come back my peasant will still be hitting the gym equipment



Well that's all i managed to do when i played it...
Good Luck on your map and Happy Editing!!

 

[MR.Tricky]

this is one of the best loap i have seen too bad it is cancellled.

 

[futeki]

this is one of the best loap i have seen too bad it is cancellled.

I have been considering working on it again. When everyone stopped messing with it, I had done some major improvements to the terrain and reworked 4 of the jobs, leaving the others to be redone. I was feeling like a lot of people had lost interest in it, so I dropped it too.

 

[futeki]

Firefighter
It's a rather easy job but it takes a while to take out the fire...
Maybe you could increase the damage a bit...

Will add it to the suggestions list if I continue development.

Curator
Pretty much an easy job since all you have to do is clean the artifacts...
Also if the artifacts are cleaned and you clean them you still get gold...

This job was due for a reworking.

Reporter
I can't comment for this job because im not sure what im supposed to do...when i check Help there seems to be some sort of bugs which doesn't show help for reporter...you should have a look at that...

It's funny, but I don't think we ever finished this job. The goal was to have the reporter show up to events, and use a camera. Additionally, the reporter could follow City Officials around and report their whereabouts and it would announce in the news and of course the reporter would get paid.

Postal Worker
I couldn't try this job either because i didn't knew where i could get mails to deliver them...maybe you should improve the Help about Postal Worker...

You get the mail from behind the counter, they spawn. You then take them and put them in the mailboxes. You cannot keep putting them in the same mailbox, as it takes a little while for the mail to disappear (simulating someone getting their mail).

Animal Control Officer
This job was fun, but i got bored after a while of doing the same thing over and over...(capture animals and put them in cage)
IMO for such an easy job the payout is a lot, you should lower it...

This job also was due for a reworking. I actually added a help quest for this job, but still needed to add the Random Missions.

Going to Jail for attacking an officer
how long do i spend in jail for attacking an officer?-.-
i was in jail doing nothing for about 1 minute and i got really mad and rage quited!!
also i tried to repick but it didn't work...is it supposed to if you are in jail?

However long it takes for the Court System to find your case. When you were put in jail, it created a court case. The court system slowly cycles through its' cases and if there is a Judge (AI Judge added in latest version), you go to Court, otherwise it releases you. My guess is you were very close to being released as there was no Judge.

Gym
The gym is a pretty easy and fast way to increase your stats...
but why after some hits it stops attacking? i would prefer it if i could go afk for 10 mins(example) and when i come back my peasant will still be hitting the gym equipment

The goal was to prevent exactly that. This is sort of like fishing in World of Warcraft, we wanted to make sure you were constantly playing. Perhaps we should have either made it stop after every hit or did what you suggested. I may be able to fix that in the next version, depending on what happens and what other options are suggested.

 

[futeki]

Just wanted to tell you, but your screenshots seem to be broken.

no screenshots(they broken or smthing)

I think they got deleted on the site as a result of the project being cancelled, will try to re-upload them. Also considering restarting development, depending on how many people still have interest in the map.

 

[TwentyThree]

im pretty interested in this map, havn't played it yet, but i will sooner or later
you should continue development, there is a lot of potential here

 

[Tleno]

I think they got deleted on the site as a result of the project being cancelled, will try to re-upload them. Also considering restarting development, depending on how many people still have interest in the map.

You can upload them to your album here at THW, that's so much easier.

 

[futeki]

You can upload them to your album here at THW, that's so much easier.

Haha! I didn't even realize that feature was there, too cool. I uploaded the photos.

 

[futeki]

im pretty interested in this map, havn't played it yet, but i will sooner or later
you should continue development, there is a lot of potential here

I'm definitely considering it. Just got to work out time and what I want to tackle first.

 

[Tleno]

Haha! I didn't even realize that feature was there, too cool. I uploaded the photos.

Great.

Hmmm, if you're going to continue it, maybe you should immplement some crafting or whatever systems that allow people to experiment with various things more? Like you can upgrade your vehicle by yourself by installing some aprts on it, or maybe something like that... you know, you can make or upgrade some stuff by yourself. That would be intresting...

 

[futeki]

Great.

Hmmm, if you're going to continue it, maybe you should immplement some crafting or whatever systems that allow people to experiment with various things more? Like you can upgrade your vehicle by yourself by installing some aprts on it, or maybe something like that... you know, you can make or upgrade some stuff by yourself. That would be intresting...

Neat idea. What do you think about having to study Mechanics before being able to do it?

In large part the school is not being used well. I had also considered requiring a level of education to take some jobs, what do you think about that?

 

[futeki]

please make something with site because i cant login and if i go at forgot password i put my email then enter and when i go at yahoo mail nothing. I know password and username but no work it shows incorrect password

I know this is a late reply, but I fixed this issue.

 

[Tleno]

Yes, level of educuation ot take some more profiting or giving more privileges jobs. Of course, you should also make sure so there would be plenty of jobs that don't require any skills, and those jobs that require most studies should give some really good salary or give some great perks (You know, you "own" some building, you get some unique items to buy or some common ones for free).

Well, I guess different recipes should require some educuation (Like Mechanics, Engineering, Chemistry, Artistic Knowledge and such) and some recipe, that is kinda like insta research - you buy or find a recipe, and you can make some thing by casting an ability or whatever. Of course, different items will require different ingridients.
Also, I guess Cooking, which makes various simple consumeables, should not require any learning in school or anything like that.

 

[CassMJR]

What do you think about any university system? Like if you want to be a doctor, you should study medicine first. Nothing too long, at the maximum 20~30 min, or less.

 

[futeki]

What do you think about any university system? Like if you wuant to be a doctor, you should study medicine first. Nothing too long, at the maximum 20~30 min, or less.

I think that's a great idea! Believe it or not, that was near exactly what I had in mind. In fact maybe it would be a good idea not to create lengthy Help Quests but instead use the university as a means of learning a field of study.

For sure if I can I'd like to put in a certificate system where you have to study a specific field to work at the highest level of that field and make the highest money that field provides. I will say I think I'll keep the political jobs the same. Low pay and not require a specific study. I would like in the future to update them where the citizens play a part in the election and education and other variables play a factor in the election process, but for now I think they're fair and help prevent abuse.

If the computerized citizens have too much say in the elections, it provides opportunity for abuse. This is something the team had decided on awhile ago.

 

[CassMJR]

I think that's a great idea! Believe it or not, that was near exactly what I had in mind. In fact maybe it would be a good idea not to create lengthy Help Quests but instead use the university as a means of learning a field of study.

For sure if I can I'd like to put in a certificate system where you have to study a specific field to work at the highest level of that field and make the highest money that field provides. I will say I think I'll keep the political jobs the same. Low pay and not require a specific study. I would like in the future to update them where the citizens play a part in the election and education and other variables play a factor in the election process, but for now I think they're fair and help prevent abuse.

If the computerized citizens have too much say in the elections, it provides opportunity for abuse. This is something the team had decided on awhile ago.

Hm.. To be the judge you don't have to study? Well you know...
I was thinking if in a future the citizens are going to take part in the elections, what about some AI Mayor to make some competition to the player Mayor?

There's a game called Patrician 3, there are a lot of aspects but i'm going just take the mayor system.

The players starts poor, and the AI Mayor is rich and have a lot of reputation. When the player get the point that they have enough reputation and wealthy, they can candidate.

Once a mayor, the player should keep his reputation with the citizens very high, higher than the AI mayor (now just a council) and the others players.

I think to put a reputation system will be a lot complicated, but did you get my point?

 

[futeki]

Hm.. To be the judge you don't have to study? Well you know...

I thought about that last night after I posted that, and perhaps Law would be a good field of study. I think the position needs more AI and more computer cases.

I was thinking if in a future the citizens are going to take party in the, what about some AI Mayor to make some competition to the player Mayor?

It's not a bad idea, but it would have to be disabled when there is more than 1 player because the problem it creates is an unfair advantage to those who build their reputation or do whatever tasks it takes to gain the position. And much like in real life, no one needs to hold a position too long or be guaranteed the position. The goal of implementing the elections is and was to prevent the same person from holding the position indefinitely. But I will say this, I don't think the position should be restricted to being wealthy or whoever has the most money, wins. Unlike in real life, we can solve that problem.

I think to put a reputation system will be a lot complicated, but did you get my point?

I definitely get your point.

 

[CassMJR]

It's not a bad idea, but it would have to be disabled when there is more than 1 player because the problem it creates is an unfair advantage to those who build their reputation or do whatever tasks it takes to gain the position. And much like in real life, no one needs to hold a position too long or be guaranteed the position. The goal of implementing the elections is and was to prevent the same person from holding the position indefinitely. But I will say this, I don't think the position should be restricted to being wealthy or whoever has the most money, wins. Unlike in real life, we can solve that problem.

The question about money X reputation is just that the money can make a little difference for you (like make a a party or feed the poors). The money is not considered, the reputation yes, but the money helps a lot with reputation.

Just an example.

There is 10 points of reputation, to be the mayor you need 5.

The Ai mayor Have 5 poins, so a player with 7 points can take him out.
There's is another player with 6 points
If the player mayor make bad things, the other will take him out at the next election.
If the both Players make bad things, the AI mayor will be elected.

You could put a max number of re-election, like 3 times.

 

[futeki]

You could put a max number of re-election, like 3 times.

Term limits. I like it. That is definitely something to consider, but what if someone does a good job and really enjoys being the mayor? In some cities there are no term limits to being the mayor and someone can run over and over.

Right now it's not too difficult to be the mayor because there are just a few things you can do, but when I finish the position the mayor will be able to unlock many areas of the town that will otherwise be locked, have a major impact on crime, health, safety, education and the budget, and a lot more to do in terms of managing the city. We just threw most of the options together overnight. Even the current dev version makes use of dialogs instead of working through the secretary.

I was thinking of building out the "Interact" ability. I think it would be cool to see more interactions with different NPC's, not to mention a long line of Quests available.

 

[CassMJR]

I was thinking of building out the "Interact" ability. I think it would be cool to see more interactions with different NPC's, not to mention a long line of Quests available.

Sure!

 

[CassMJR]

someone want to try it online?

 

[PoopBrainEK]

Though not an original concept, and as far as I can tell, a remake of RLFM this actually wasnt bad

 

[futeki]

Though not an original concept, and as far as I can tell, a remake of RLFM this actually wasnt bad

Definitely not a remake of RLFM. And actually, some of the ideas came from the original Real Life, which RLFM copied. But most of whats in this map, is original. Not an original concept in-whole, but original nonetheless.

Glad you enjoyed it. I should have another version out shortly. Still working on it.

 

[Foronisus]

i like the map also the idea

 

[Gamling]

4/5, when it says you can leave prison it doesnt allow you to. but still good job!

 

[futeki]

4/5, when it says you can leave prison it doesnt allow you to. but still good job!

Thanks for finding the bug. If I may ask, what did you do to get put in jail? Lol.

 

[Railto]

going to test the new version .

EDIT: i found a bug with a friend. I was checking my age.. then when i was about to close it my friend checked his age and the close button on my screen dissapeared. >_<

 

[CassMJR]

We need more testers, someone want to be one?

Someone tried the university system? Any bug found??

 

[futeki]

4/5, when it says you can leave prison it doesnt allow you to. but still good job!

going to test the new version .

EDIT: i found a bug with a friend. I was checking my age.. then when i was about to close it my friend checked his age and the close button on my screen dissapeared. >_<

I've did a hotfix for those two bugs.

 

[albertroy]

Where is the channellog???

 

[Tleno]

Where is the channellog???

There are only the changes of latest version mentioned in description... guess that's your changelog.

 

[CassMJR]

There's a LOT of changes, but i think the creator didn't have time to put ALL of then.

 

[futeki]

Changelog updated.

 

[Tleno]

Oooh, nice to see a new changelog... this one got much more info...

 

[futeki]

Just an FYI, this map's development is again active. I'm currently working on a release, albeit alone.

 

[BandolXD]

I Like It. But Next Time Change The Models Of Cars ^_^ !!

 

[futeki]

I Like It. But Next Time Change The Models Of Cars ^_^ !!

I actually had another map that was never released here named Metrocim that uses more realistic models, but the problem is, it is in an extremely low-level BETA state and already fairly large despite none of the triggers being in a releasable state.

Also, one of the main reasons you don't want to import too many models is the map becomes too large, even after you optimize the images. The goal of Darrow was never to look more realistic, but to focus on elements of the city where LOAP maps have issues, and have some of the elements of Real Life by Lord_Jonathan. A lot of which is still being implemented and as you can see, the map grows quite a bit each release.

 

[BandolXD]

I actually had another map that was never released here named Metrocim that uses more realistic models, but the problem is, it is in an extremely low-level BETA state and already fairly large despite none of the triggers being in a releasable state.

Also, one of the main reasons you don't want to import too many models is the map becomes too large, even after you optimize the images. The goal of Darrow was never to look more realistic, but to focus on elements of the city where LOAP maps have issues, and have some of the elements of Real Life by Lord_Jonathan. A lot of which is still being implemented and as you can see, the map grows quite a bit each release.

Can I Try Your Map

 

[BandolXD]

Hey I found this skill when I log in. I wish you add this skill in your new version.
Here's the link --> http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/spells-569/jump-system-v-1-0-0-3-a-230294/ . I hope you can add that Jump skill. xD

 

[BandolXD]

Umm can you add some attachments like guns and clothes?

 

[Diamondkaching]

How To get certificate

How to get the @#?! Certificate

 

[BandolXD]

How to get the @#?! Certificate

Lol nice replying xD What certificate? Just go to school !

 

[Diamondkaching]

Where is school?

 

[BandolXD]

Where is school?

Ehh? You can find it plat Single Player and then cheat iseedeadpeople you can see it. ^.^

 

[futeki]

Where is school?

Directly west of the Park. If you're near the stadium, take that road north and it'll be on the left.


UPDATE: There should be a new release to this map soon, but real life and other map projects are taking up my time.
-okawa

 

[RoaminG]

I didn't see any other LOAP maps this days in Hive except on LOAP Power Ultimate and Darrow City. Hope you Update this far !
RoaminG
Edit :
+Rep
Rating : 4/5

 

[futeki]

I didn't see any other LOAP maps this days in Hive except on LOAP Power Ultimate and Darrow City. Hope you Update this far !
RoaminG
Edit :
+Rep
Rating : 4/5

An update is coming, but it is so huge that it is taking time. We're redoing all of the major systems and building them in such a way it'll be easier to update quicker later.

 

[Engkanto]

i like the entire thing. everything seems so realistic in the game. but can you update some of the character models (i dont like most of them).... please.? BTW, when is the next update?

 

[futeki]

i like the entire thing. everything seems so realistic in the game. but can you update some of the character models (i dont like most of them).... please.? BTW, when is the next update?

Models are on the to-do list to change, but other items are higher on the list.

The next update should be out shortly, still working heavily on the city management systems. If all goes well, the next version will be out in 2-3 weeks. Been slowly whittling away at the to-do list each week.

 

[futeki]

UPDATE: The features are being added slowly each week, sometimes daily. Could use some testers and other help. Hoping to release a new version soon. It is taking longer because we are so short handed.