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Castle vs Castle Flame Edition 2.0c

It has always been my dream to create a map, but not only a map, a map that could make a difference, help people. This is that map...Flame_Phoenix

Hi guys, this is my map, from clan SOR. I've been developing this map the last 3-4 years, but only now I started working on it due some issues. This map is a Castle vs Castle map, it is by far the best I've ever seen and played. This is the beta version, it has bugs and needs testing.

You are invited to be an alpha tester if you want. You will gain reputation points if:
- You find and report bugs
- You give me good suggestions on how to improve the map
- You suggest spells, models or icons
- If you are a good tester, your name will appear in the loading screen.

Reason's to why you should play this map:
- Unique Items for you to use
- Unique Waves for you to buy
- 2 New Unique races: Blood Elf and Chaos Orc
- 4 new Tavern heroes
- A detailed multiboard with information about the game
- This map is open source, so you learn everything and gain experience
- Every Hero has a detailed story connected to the game (if not it will soon be added)

My to do list:
- Fix any bugs you may find
- Implement AI for all races

I am also looking for a team to help:
- If you are a good coder, you are welcome to join
- If you have good ideas on how to improve, you are also welcome
- If you are a good model maker, or know special places where I can find good models, welcome in
- If you are a good Icon maker, or know special places where I can find good icons, suit yourself

Current Team:
- Anachron (terrainer with name on screen!)
- Ciebron (coder, with colored name!)
- Themerion (coder, with colored name!)
- Byaku (icon, model, spell searcher, tester and suggestion giver)
- You can also have your colored name on the loading screen, join the team today !

Note, Some heroes are being remade, those heroes may not function properly for now. They are:
- Gate Summoner from Chaos Orcs
- Chaos Rider
- Electron

History, Major Changes:

Version Beta 1.1
- Remade and balanced the Wave system, now you can buy waves with lower costs and balanced spawns
- Remade and balanced the spawn system, now the castles spawn less units and there is more synchronization
- Added Shop System, now the shops can travel across the map, also each shop also has 2 pages of items
- Remade the welcome text, now it is more informative and fun to read
- Player 9 can now benefit from the Night Elf tutorial, Players 10 and 11 will have to wait
- Added the shop system!! Now it is even funnier to play! Remember to buy items and waves!
- Title corrected, added colored name "Themerion" to the Special thanks and colored "Ciebron"'s name
- Removed some useless units from the map (for now) in order to make it smaller and did some other minor changes to them as well

Version Beta 1.1a
- Fixed a bug with spawns, they used to attack very fast but to cause no damage.

Version Beta 1.2
- Remade the hero Sylvana from the High Elfs. Now she is a hell of a hero and I am sure most of you will enjoy her.
- Remade and updated the code of the Blademaster from the Chaos Orcs. Made some spells more powerful and efficiency was increased in all his 4 spells.
- Fixed a bug with the description of Shocking Aura, the description is now correct.
- Gold in mines was improved to 150.000
- Fixed various spelling errors
- Now first hero is free and costs only 5 food
- Ranger hero (Sylvanas) now costs food as well

Version Beta 1.3
- Fully remade the Night Elf tutorial system. Now it is MUI and has more functions the player can use. Press F9 for more information.
- Remove the Hunts and Dryads tactic. It may be added in a further version, but not for now.
- New icons for the Goblin's items! Now every item has an unique icon!
- Remade the code of some items in order to be easier to update for a next version
- New Item system Added, now the problems with recipes that were reported will no longer exist!
- Fixed spelling mistakes in High Elf race
- Fixed Hotkeys clashes with in Hiht Elfs
- Now Sentry ability works on High Elven towers
- Fixed a bug with the spawning buildings, now the south spawning buildings do get vulnerable
- Fixed a bug with the gold mines, now they all start with the same amount of gold
- Added a control system, now if the computer players have many units, the castle units will stop spawning
- Changed the terrain on the north up exit, now the lane has more space
- Corrected and fixed many spelling mistakes on the item's descriptions from both shops and races
- Fixed Spelling mistakes on the races description in the box
- Fixed many spelling errors in hero abilities and unit abilities
- Fixed many spelling mistakes with the Chaos Orc race
- Now the Chaos Cart siege unit explodes when it dies
- Added Byaku to Special Thanks and improved loading screen text. If he keeps working hard, he will get colored nick =D
- Added new Ability to Bandit Lord, Sun Ray

Version Beta 1.42
- Now the map version is TFT
- Fixed a typo in the Bandit Lord's name
- Made several drastic changes in the terrain. Now the map has some decent terrain at last in te lanes. More will be done in time.
- Completed, finished and balanced the Chaos Orc Warchief hero, now he is ready to rock!
- Fixed many typos on items and on the Chaos Orc race
- Added Anachron, the new terrainer of the team!
- Decreased map size by removing some models and others
- Fixed an exploit with a grass model

Version Beta 1.5
- Corrected many typos in both races and in items/spawns
- Remade the Hotkeys for the HE race
- Finally fixed the annoyance with the trees. Now they will only grow when no units are near them
- Remade the Hotkeys for the Chaos Orc race
- Added new spell to Druid Dwarf and replaced Ram Horns icon. Also changed the icon of the "Penguin Insult" ability
- Made the Druid Dwarf bigger
- Updated the SheepStrike code, now it is easier for my fans to use and import, and now it is JESP !
- Updated all comments on the Druid Dwarf spells, now if you need to import something you won't get lost =)
- The Icon from Ram Horns is now passive at last ! Now the icons are according to the abilities they represent (not like in crappy Dota xD )
- The Druid dwarf hero is now ready and complete !! Please enjoy ! =D
- Added new spell for Axe Dwarf, Earth Shaker
- Added revlisliver to loading screen !
- Fixed typos on the description of the map
- Added new system to detect damage!
- Added new ability to the wolf creeps ! Now the lv2 wolfs have a special ability to make the stronger!
- Replaced the passive ability from Axe DWarf with TeamForce
- Updated spell Apocalypse, now the code is no longer old and now the spell is more balanced
- Finished the Axe Dwarf hero !! Now he his abilities "Blood Bound" and "Power Jump", and remade his two other abilities !

Version Beta 1.6
- Added the first item to the bomber seller! A bomber that drops Fire Bombs!
- Added Sleepy Path Recipe, now Permanent Sleepy Path is available to buy!
- Added Ethereal Recipe, now permanent ethereal path is available to buy!
- Improved the code for the HolyReception item, now it is easier to change and read
- Improved the code for the WaveAttack item, now it is easier to change and read
- Improved the code for the FrostAttack item, now it is easier to change and read
- Improved the Jungle Axe item, now code is easier to read and use.
- Improved the Havens Armor item's code and balanced the item. Now it has 5% chance to be invulnerable for 10 seconds, instead of 7% for 15 seconds.
- Added another item to the Plane shop, the Explosive Bomber! Two new items for a fresh start for our shop!
- Drastically improved spell Chain Death from the Chaos Warchief
- Fixed Spiked Armor (now it works!) and fixed "Spiked Anchor". These items now work, and their code was heavily improved!

Version Beta 1.7
- Improved the Damage Detection system the map has
- Updated the Greave Ability code
- Updated comments on some other codes
- Changed the cost of the Improved Lumber Harvesting Upgrade. Now it also costs lumber.
- Made deep changes in some the internal system RaceAndTips and Icons for the Multiboard
- Made a full remake of the multiboard, from the zero, to fix all bugs and make it usefull by adding new fields
- Fixed the iddle workers bug. Now the human peasant will no longer appear!
- Added the sleep system just for fun! Now when the workers are idle a sleep animation will appera above their heads just if as they were sleeping for real!
- Added 2 new quest logs about named "Credits" and "MapInfo"
- Remade the Chaos Orc Fel Xaman. Now he has two new super abilities that will stack 100% with eveything else.
- Balanced the Chaos Orc Fel Xaman spells. Made the firebolt weaker and add him decent spells (it is about time =P)
- Changed the model, description, icon and name of the Altar of the Chaos Orcs. Now it fits with the other races.
- Changed the model, icon, description and name of the Chaos Orc shop building. Now it also fits with the other races.
- Fixed bug with the Ethereal item, the description now matches correctly the spell of the item.

Version 1.8
- Reduced dependencies from the Devour coded abilities
- Fixed and balanced MultiOrb from the Chaos Orcs. Now the healling effect appears, and the slow from the orb will stack with any spell.
- Improved the code of Strenght Armor to be more efficient and easier to change.
- Improved the code of Wisdom Armor to be more efficient and easier to change.
- Improved the code of Electric Armor to be more efficient and easier to change.
- Improved the code of Electric Sword to be more efficient and easier to change.
- Change of Damage Detection system. Now the map is able to have shield abilities and spells as well as a better interaction with the buff system.
- Improved the Sleep system code
- Greatly improved the Holy Reception item. Now it has more eye candy and the code was improved to stack with the other items of it's kind.
- Greatly improved the Sleepy Path item. Now it has more eye candy and the code was greatly improved as well.
- Greatly improved the Ethereal Path item. Now it has more eye candy and the code was greatly improved as well.
- Greatly improved the Unsafe Path item. Now it has more eye candy and the code was greatly improved as well.
- Greatly improved the Fast Path item. Now it has more eye candy and the code was greatly improved as well.
- Improved the code from the new OnFire ability from the Chaos Orc Fel Shaman, in order to be faster and prevent bugs.
- Greatly improved the Frost Attack item. Now it has more eye candy and the code was improved to stack with the other items of it's kind.
- Greatly improved the Lightning Attack item. Now it has more eye candy and the code was improved to stack with the other items of it's kind.
- Fixed a bug that prevented the player from having the Permanent Lightning Attack Recipe.
- Fixed a bug that prevented the player from having the Permanent Rage Reception Recipe.
- Greatly improved the Rage Reception item. Now it has more eye candy and the code was improved to stack with the other items of it's kind.
- Fixed a bug with Rage Reception, now it damages the enemies instead of teh allies and now it works properly.
- Change the icons of Rage Reception and Wave attack, so now they match the effects better.
- Greatly improved the Wave item. Now it has more eye candy and the code was improved to stack with the other items of it's kind.

Version 1.9
- Fixed a bug with the multiboard when buying heroes from teh tavern.
- Fixed and changed the name of Sauron's ring to Chinese Cheap Sauron's Ring.
- Removed some items from "The Oracle" shop that were useless.
- Fixed Blood Bound ability, now it has a correct buff.
- Corrected the name of a spell from Electron from "Orb of Zeuz" to "Orb of Zeus".
- Fixed the name of "Incendiary Bomber" item to "Incendiary Bomber" from "Amulet of Recal".
- Fixed the description of the Chaos Grom Hellscream.
- Fixed the amount of charges and stock replenish time of some goblin items.
- Fixed the resources bug, now all players (finally) start with equal amounts of gold and lumber.
- Improved the hero counter module of the multiboard, to prevent a possible bug.
- Improved the documentation of some systems of the map.
- Added a new check system. Now the race choosers will only be created if the corresponding slot is not open nor closed.
- Fixed a bug with the multiboard when a hero dies.
- Fixed a bug with the invisibility aura of teh Ranger, now it works well and the code was also optimized to be more efficient.
- Fixed a typo in the Speed Thurst ability.
- Fixed a typo in the Aliance Sanctum building.
- Fixed a typo in Retrocess ability.
- Fixed typos in the melee upgrades for High Elves.
- Fixed 2 typos in the High Elven barracks.
- Added Human AI to the map. Now you can play against the computer!! (finally) xD !
- Improved the Shadow aura ability of the Ranger by updating the code.
- Improved the Nature Bound ability of Ranger by increasing code efficiency.
- Made major changes in the terrain of the map in the middle, now the Oracle is easier to access and is better protected.
- Fixed a bug with the multiboard Peons module, the counter now works fine.
- Fixed a typo in the loading screen.
- Fixed the soldiers multiboard module, now it works for AI players.
- Increased the colddown of all Reception and Attack items from Goblin.
- Fixed Manaroth story.
- Updated Kills multiboard module to work with AI.
- Updated Buildings multiboard module to work with AI.
- Added an history and strategy tips to the Human heroes.
- Fixed a missing hotkey for Shard Rain.
- Fixed a typo in the starting message of the black screen.
- Fixed a bug with Greave ability, now it only has 10% to work and it doesn't work if attacked unit is ally.

Version 2.0a
- Fixed a bug with the Ram Knoackback ability, now it won't fire on buildings, mechanical units, dead units and air units. Also improved the performance of the code.
- Updated the "Launch Seal" spell from Druid Dwarf to be more balanced and to have a minimum range (so the paraboloic effect does not look stupid =P ).
- Fixed Chaos Barracks tooltip
- Remade Chaos Grunt unit. Now it has better abilities and fits in the theme decently.
- Remade the Chaos Berserker unit. It has new abilities and is fits in the theme better as well.
- Remade the Chaos Cart and fixed a bug with its air attack animation.
- Balanced all units from Chaos Orc Barracks.
- Replaced Greave with ChaoticRage.
- Now Chaos Stronghold is also able to research Chaotic Rage ability.
- Replaced Glorious Charge with Light Shield in the Bandit Lord hero. Now he has a usefull ability at last.
- Replaced Summon Gate with Fiery Summon in the Summoner. Now this hero (finally) has a decent ultimate that is not crap =P.
- Completely remade the Summoner's "Summon Fel Beast" ability. Now it is balanced to be a counter-part of the "Summon wolf" spell from the Orc hero and now it is (finally) balanced for melee game.
- Added CreepSys systems. Now some creeps revive in their areas.
- Replaced "Orb of Zeus" spell with "Ligthning Grenade" in Electron hero (from the tavern). Now his skills are more usefull.
- Fully remade and balance Lightning Invocation from Electron hero. Now it is bug free and it is (finally) decent to use and is faster.
- Completely remade the Orc Warlorck from Chaos Orcs. Now he is a ward unit made to counter orc's doctor.
- Changed Loading Screen of the map! (now we finally have a decent loading screen!)
- Removed shield dwarf, he was a bugged hero with no strategy defined. By doing this the map also becomes smaller to accomodate other models that will be more important.
- Removed a few model imports that are no longer necessary.
- Remade the history of the Druid Dwarf to fit the removal of the Shield Dwarf.
- Removed ABC timing system (finally).
- Removed DebugLib system.
- Updated BloodBound ABility and fixed.
- Changed the voice of Electron hero
- Remade the tier upgade message system. Now it is a lot smaller, the same player doesn't get repeated tier tips and he is the only player to hear the sounds.
- Replaced TimedEffects system with TimedHandles. Now I have more freedom for eye-candy in spells =D.
- Made major changes in the inner structure of the map so it could work for the next patch.
- Changed the attack type of all chaos units to piercing, magic and normal, in order to balance the game and the race.
- Due major changes that will occur in the next patch, the shop system in now down for a remake. Shops will only have 1 page inventory items and they will not travel.
- Due major changes that will occur in the next patch, the NE tutorial is not just down, it was also removed. Maintaining such a complex system with the new update coming would not be worth the effort.
- Due major changes that will occur in the next patch, the following heroes are down for a remake: Chaod Rider, Electron. These heroes have spells removed are being remade.
- Summoner hero is also down until a new design line comes up. He was too unbalanced to be played with, now his unbalanced spells got removed.
- Replaced the Urn item with Greave item on Chaos Orc shop. Now they have a tier 1 item very useful.
- Rebalanced Strenght Armor by lowering the chance of success.
- Fixed a bug on the Power Jump dwarf ability. Now the hero won't lose mana if he can't jump.

Version 2.0b
- Now Soul Ward doesn't raise skelies from dead summoned units.
- Diablo car siege unit now is able to attack buildings.
- Changed attack type of Chaos Machine to siege.
- Chaotic Rage will no longer activate on buildings, mechanical units nor on allies. Now it also requires the upgrade to work.
- Chaotic Rage is now a tier 2 upgrade and costs more gold.
- Fixed Chaotic Rage ability, now it won't destroy shield for no reason.
- Remade the Chaotic Rage ability. Now it gives 1% chance to deal Chaos damage per 2% hp missing. It will also be a tier 2 upgrade.
- Added new system to project, NovaSystem xe by Akolit0r.
- Added new spell to Electron, Shock Nova and fixed his Lightning Grenade spell (now it works!).
- Increased the quality of the code of WolfStrike ability now it won't collapse shields for no reason.
- Removed 2nd item page from Tank and Plane shops. Now all their items work properly xD.
- Added new ability to Chaos Warchief, Death Persistance. This new ability not fits well the tactic line of the hero.
- Added new ability to Summoner hero, Appocalypse. This new ability not fits well the tactic line of the hero.
- Added new item to Chaos Orcs, Fiery Summon tier 3 item that replaces useless Serathil.
- Balanced the fire power of the incendiary bomber, now it only deals 20 damage / sec.
- Added new item to the Bomber shop, Icy Bombs are now available to buy.
- Now Sylvana can pass the Murloc river.
- Fixed BloodBound ability, now it won't destroy shields for no reason.
- Removed the story from the Chaos shop and from the High Elf shop. It made no sense to only have 2 buildings with history while the entire tech race and other races were left alone.
- Made the WarChief hero bigger.
- Made all wards from Chaos Orc green caster visible, and now all ward spells have an AOE so the player knows the area each ward will affect.
- Rebalanced SoulWard by setting its colddown to 8 seconds instead of 2.

Version 2.0c
- Updated Special Units internal library to make the map more stable.
- Added the black screen again. The prevents AI from acting stupid and allows players to synchronize at the start of the game.
- Chaotic Rage is now a tier 2 upgrade.
- Fixed the description of Chaotic Rage upgrade.
- Fixed an important exploit with Chaotic Rage, now it won't affect units that are not supposed to be affected and it will not affect buildings as well.
- Fixed Rider Devil's Speed upgrade, now it increases speed instead of taking it away.
- Made major spell checks to grammar in Chaos Orc race and Tavern heroes.
- Fixed some descriptions of heroes.
- Scaled the unit model of Chaos Rider Warchief hero.
- Fixed a major bug with Soul Ward, now it works properly.
- Increased the cooldown of Draining Ward from 2 seconds to 3.
- Made minor spell checks to other units.
- Removed Ensnare from Chaos Rider. This unit is being prepared for an update.
- Added new spell to the Summoner - Dark Clones. This is an excellent support or counter for summoners.
- Finally, the Rider is now ready for his new Devil's Speed ability. This ability was finally added, and it is sure to make many fans happy. Added the remake of Devil's Speed (finally).
- Remade the description of the Chaos Orcs Race.
- Fixed the description of all upgrades from the Lumber Mill.
- Fixed the description of the Greave item.
- Removed Kodo's Vault. This makes part of a preparation for a new unit and strategy for this race.
- Removed Chaos Riderless Kodo, this unit was bogus and useless to the new main strategy of the race.
- Chaos Bestiary now trains Fel Orc Kodo.
- Now Fear Aura's buff corresponds to the buff of an aura.
- Added Myre to credits!
- Improved the README file a lot. Now you have more information about the credits there so you can research for your project =P


Please note that the map is not 100% completed yet, I would appreciate any help I could get and please be kind on comments.

















Here are some scrennies of the new hero Ranger, I am sure it will make you interested!








Now here some new abilities for Bandit Lord




Look how the terrain was improved!





In Beta 1.8 the items were heavily improved!












Now in version Beta 1.9, we finally have AI!









To know more spells from the hero, download the map !

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Castle vs Castle Flame Edition 2.0c (Map)

Reviews
01:46, 16th Aug 2008 Septimus: Map have been set to pending and going to be review again Edit : Tested it again, lot's of hotkey error. Apart from that it seem to be fine. http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/783956-post6.html 18:29, 19th...
O guys, I need an opinion. I made many major inner changer in the map and remade lots of stuff. I have thing quite ready for version 2.0, however, if I release the new version now, the Chaos Orc race will not be totally remade, neither will the heroes.

This is what I changed so far:


Version 2.0
- Fixed a bug with the Ram Knoackback ability, now it won't fire on buildings, mechanical units, dead units and air units. Also improved the performance of the code.
- Updated the "Launch Seal" spell from Druid Dwarf to be more balanced and to have a minimum range (so the paraboloic effect does not look stupid =P ).
- Fixed Chaos Barracks tooltip
- Remade Chaos Grunt unit. Now it has better abilities and fits in the theme decently.
- Remade the Chaos Berserker unit. It has new abilities and is fits in the theme better as well.
- Remade the Chaos Cart and fixed a bug with its air attack animation.
- Now Chaos Stronghold is also able to research Greave ability
- Replaced Glorious Charge with Light Shield in the Bandit Lord hero. Now he has a usefull ability at last.
- Replaced Summon Gate with Fiery Summon in the Summoner. Now this hero (finally) has a decent ultimate that is not crap =P.
- Completely remade the Summoner's "Summon Fel Beast" ability. Now it is balanced to be a counter-part of the "Summon wolf" spell from the Orc hero and now it is (finally) balanced for melee game.
- Added CreepSys systems. Now some creeps revive in their areas.
- Replaced "Orb of Zeus" spell with "Ligthning Grenade" in Electron hero (from the tavern). Now his skills are more usefull.
- Fully remade and balance Lightning Invocation from Electron hero. Now it is bug free and it is (finally) decent to use and is faster.
- Completely remade the Orc Warlorck from Chaos Orcs. Now he is a ward unit made to counter orc's doctor.
- Changed Loading Screen of the map! (now we finally have a decent loading screen!)
- Removed shield dwarf, he was a bugged hero with no strategy defined. By doing this the map also becomes smaller to accomodate other models that will be more important.
- Removed a few model imports that are no longer necessary.
- Remade the history of the Druid Dwarf to fit the removal of the Shield Dwarf.
- Removed an old MaxLife and MaxMana modifer system made by Blade.dk and replace it with a new generation system UnitProperties made by Litany
- Updated the StrArmor and WisdomArmor codes for the items
- Removed ABC timing system (finally)
- Removed DebugLib system
- Updated BloodBound ABility
- Changed the voice of Electron hero

So basically, I need to know: Do you want version 2.0 now, or do you prefer to wait (a lot) longer and to have a more complete 2.0?
 
Depends. If we wait more 1 month, perhaps, the lag will ne fixed?
Well, it looks that the lag problem has no real solution .... One way of reducing it is to increase the bases size, so this will help avoid some bugs from the AI (inner bugs from Blizzard, unfortunately ...). However I don't think a permanent solution will evever be found. To increase the size of the bases, I would have to make a dramatical remake of the terrain, mainly the castles (because I intend to move the bases to inside the castles). I cannot be sure how long it will take, but if I start making terrain, I will probably take a month, yes. Bad thing is that changing the terrain will be so time consuming, that I will probably have no time to evolve the races add naga and clean the bugs of the map.

Otherwise, you can release it soon, because the lag has more priority than minor flaws in a race.
Having in mind I am making a strong remake of the Chaos Orc race, I wouldn't consider it a minor race fix. If you see the change log, you can see the race suffered dramatical changes already, however, more are yet to come. I also removed one hero to save some space for a few models I need to import. The Chaos Orc race as you know, will never be the same again... and this includes their heroes.
 
Bump, Ok people, new version is released !!
For more information, please consult the changelog.
Having in mind the upcoming new patch, the project lost many of it's main system ... I am working under a possible remake of some of them for 2.0b. However this also allowed to get rid of old code and now the project will be really easy and fast to update for the patch 1.23b.

Why 2.0a and not 2.0 ?
- The original idea for 2.0 would be to completely remake the Chaos Orcs and terrain. However I saw that was not possible and that it would take months to prepare, so I decided to launch preliminary versions of 2.0. In the end, 2.0 will have the entire Chaos Orc race changed, but the terrain however will be left for 3.0 maybe.

Hope you all enjoy !
Please give comments and suggestions =D
 
@Pikmand:
Income system? I am open to ideas. So far the income is realted to gold mines and killing enemy units (you earn gold by killing them!).
I am also thinking about some gold events but ... I still have a long road ahead...
To classic ?? please elaborate.

@Lawlaskater:
That would mean the user can have a level 15 hero ... This would force me to change all heroes (28 heroes + Tavern normal heroes) and I can't afford that when I have more stuff to do on the project.
I may considerate the option, but so far it is not in my priorities top list.

Thx for the opinion though =D
 
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i found a possibly bug. if you chose high elfs and you kill all murlocs at the first point (fountaing) sylvanas wont be able to get to the ressurrection stone. shes too fat!:huh:
 
The game lags a little bit but not enough to make me quit playing this game but enough lag to make it noticeable.
This is due the heavy AI .... technically it is a Blizzard bug ... when a unit controlled by computer tries to build a construction, and if the area is occupied, the unit simply doesn't build and it waits ... after waiting a few seconds, the computer sends the same command to the unit ... in an infinite loop. Because bases are quite small, this tends to happen in large scale, thus creating the lag.
The only fix for this problem would be to have a different terrain, a decent one. Anachron said he would take care of it, but to be honest, I don't think he will ever make it...

i found a possibly bug. if you chose high elfs and you kill all murlocs at the first point (fountaing) sylvanas wont be able to get to the ressurrection stone. shes too fat!
No, this is weird, her fatness is most likely a bug !
Thx for the report, rep++ !
I hope you balanced the chaos orcs.
I am remaking the entire race, it is normal to be a little unbalanced at first, specially if you only try to kill me with stupid ghouls that are food for skelies...
I already started balancing some units, now I will focus on some upgrades and on the Bestiary.
Btw, when can you start on the terrain?

Thx for the comments people!
Remember I am open to suggestions !
 
-LwO-EdGaRd (deleted) said:
didnt like the map when I tested it looks like a horrible meele game.
It is a melee game style. If you only like AoS then this is not for you.
Next time try making:
1 - constructive critics
2 - not double post

And I bet this map is better that any piece of crap you will ever make in wc3.
Btw, double post reported.

i will try it, and try to find bugs :)
plz edit the images, dont work xD
Well, Version 2.0a has a lot of bugs fixed, it will be hard for you to find them, but I appreciate the effort.
God damn photobucket for bandwith ... damn... I guess I have to upgrade to another account xD

EDIT EDIT EDIT


God bless ImageShack for providing unlimited bandwidth for free.
Images problem is now solved =D
 
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Hey fire phoenix i just finshed playing CCFE with my bro, i played high elf and i chose dark mage as soon as i used dark phoenix my game crashed and i had a fatal error, i then used my bro's computer to see if the same thing would happend and it did...
 
Hey fire phoenix i just finshed playing CCFE with my bro, i played high elf and i chose dark mage as soon as i used dark phoenix my game crashed and i had a fatal error, i then used my bro's computer to see if the same thing would happend and it did...
MMm, I see the problem ... thing is DarkMage is the most unbalanced hero ever ... with the oldest spells as well (Made in GUI). I will fix that problem very soon, Thx for the report!

Btw, how was the Chaos Orcs race? I am currently paying more attention to that race now xD
rep++ !
 
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I've played the chaos race as well i don't see anything wrong with them or overpowered.... but human race i found is very weak compared to the others.
 
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OK

i play it, here is that wat i see.

.- I play has the red orcs, and well its a really good made race, (Y) i see one thing, i have 15 workers in the trees, and i never can buy nothing, because i dont have suficient wood... is strange xD
.- The heros, i the dark gate summoner, i like it, but her last power is TOOOOO MUCH powerfull, because they create a lots of lots of flame guys...
ah, and i se a BUG =o xD when i am attaking the other castle, the hero stop doing the magic, but the guys keep there.
-.other hero ( i dont remenber the name ) i dont like her last power... i think is not significant, do nothing ...
-.The AI whell its OK, but keep working on it, because they dont attack... only create units xD ( dont too much anymode )
-. The wavers ( sho´p ) they need to be more expensibe, its a cool idea but if you have 3000, you cant do seriusly damage to the other castle...
-. when you win need to be at least 10 seconds before the " continue ; quit " menu...
-. when i press continue, the screen fade to black, and it was 5 mins ... i reset the PC... =/
-. Some times, have leaks and lag...
for example when some units summon anything, i experiment lags of 1 milisec. but its bad xD

well, i see more things but i dont remenber for now xD

i will play the map again

PD: i play alone.
PD2: sorry for bad english.
 
.- I play has the red orcs, and well its a really good made race, (Y) i see one thing, i have 15 workers in the trees, and i never can buy nothing, because i dont have suficient wood... is strange xD
You would have the same problem with normal orcs, both workers carry the same amount of wood, and the upgrades cost the same amount of wood ... except for the units, they cost more gold and less wood xD

- The heros, i the dark gate summoner, i like it, but her last power is TOOOOO MUCH powerfull, because they create a lots of lots of flame guys...
ah, and i se a BUG =o xD when i am attaking the other castle, the hero stop doing the magic, but the guys keep there.
Agreed. Which is why I removed his last power and transformed it into an item power for the race that can be bought in tier 3 shop =D
He now has another ultimate, Apocalypse, which fits the strategy of the hero better.
As for the bug, it is now fixed for 2.0b.
-.other hero ( i dont remenber the name ) i dont like her last power... i think is not significant, do nothing ...
Maybe you re talking about the Dark Blademaster? I too thin his ultimate is weak...
-.The AI whell its OK, but keep working on it, because they dont attack... only create units xD ( dont too much anymode )
Depends on the difficulty. In easy mode they don't attack. In normal they creep, and in insane .... let's just say that if you survive a melee game vs 4 melee in insane you are my new hero.... (really hard..)

-. The wavers ( sho´p ) they need to be more expensibe, its a cool idea but if you have 3000, you cant do seriusly damage to the other castle...
Well.... with 3000 gold could build an IMBA army and kick ass too xD
-. when you win need to be at least 10 seconds before the " continue ; quit " menu...
mmm Didn't see this thing. I don't find it much important too =P

-. when i press continue, the screen fade to black, and it was 5 mins ... i reset the PC... =/
This is wierd, never happened to me mmm
-. Some times, have leaks and lag...
for example when some units summon anything, i experiment lags of 1 milisec. but its bad xD
Please elaborate. Having in mind you were playing with AI, I must warn you that AI causes some lag due the poor space they have to build a base. I intend to fix this soon though, but it will take time.

@kamermanbr: Thx for your report, but when you talk about lag, please elaborate your actions so I can find the cause. rep++

PS: if you are Brazilian you can send me Brazilian PM's, I can read them.
 
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Well.... with 3000 gold could build an IMBA army and kick ass too xD

No really, te units cost a lot...

mmm Didn't see this thing. I don't find it much important too =P
Well, i always when i loose or win, i want to talk whit other players, in BN, if you loose, go to channel, and dont remenber her names xD


This is wierd, never happened to me mmm

Anymode maybe is my PC xD

Please elaborate. Having in mind you were playing with AI, I must warn you that AI causes some lag due the poor space they have to build a base. I intend to fix this soon though, but it will take time.




PS: if you are Brazilian you can send me Brazilian PM's, I can read them.

i am not brazilian, br = brian :p

i am from argentina :D
 
No really, te units cost a lot...
Each unit has an average cost of 250 gold. Each spawn has an average cost of 225 gold.
It is not such a bug difference.
i am not brazilian, br = brian :p
Arrghh damn xD

Anyway, if you have any more suggestions, reports, or ideas, please post them, I usually pay attention to what people like =P
 
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hey there
long time since ive played this map(my last dled vers was 1.6 or something...)
i was kinda happy when i read "finally with ai!" so i dled the new vers.
but well... your "sleeping worker" idea is really bad cause when i was playing 2v2(me+3 ai) my "mate" couldnt do much because his units tried to take som gold from MY goldmine(wrong targetting?) but when his workers arrived at my goldmine it was currently busy with one of my workers, so his workers fell all into sleep...so he managed to build barracks but he couldnt build a single soldier, not even a hero.
the ais on the opposite team were building enough units etc...but...well they didnt attack or something...just...well...sitting around and waiting for some enemies.

maybe u should work some more on the ai =/
otherwise, pretty good melee/aos kinda hybrid.(i just loooove the dark mage+ that elven archer riders)
btw: i can send u the replay if u want it
 
What you are saying is that the AI stole your gold mine correct ? The sleep feature causes no problems, many testers like it (including me) and I won't removing.
As for the AI ... i blame the terrain, it doesn't have enough space for bases so the AI steals all gold mines it cans... God I need a new terrain.

I am happy you like the High Elfs, but version 2.0 is focusing currently on the Chaos Orc race (you may want to have a look on that too xD).

Thx for your reply, I would like to see your replay.
rep++ for feedback.
 
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What you are saying is that the AI stole your gold mine correct ? The sleep feature causes no problems, many testers like it (including me) and I won't removing.
As for the AI ... i blame the terrain, it doesn't have enough space for bases so the AI steals all gold mines it cans... God I need a new terrain.

I am happy you like the High Elfs, but version 2.0 is focusing currently on the Chaos Orc race (you may want to have a look on that too xD).

Thx for your reply, I would like to see your replay.
rep++ for feedback.

hm well its just kinda weird to see my mate who wants to take my goldmine while his one is directly in front of him X_x

im pleased with the highelves so i dont care lol =P
its pretty satisfying to hold a line alone just with the dark mage, his aoes/uber heals, his phoenix and the regurlar spawn.

here is the replay
 
Some people like me, the uber tester and terrain *ahough* . Well, get ready Flame, I thought about making your terrain because I am bored at home, atleast this Weekend I have nothing to do, except visiting my girlfriend, making barbeque, girlfriend, ah did I say barbeqeue? :D Anyway.. I guess you helped me alot, thanks again for that. (Scripting / Other solutions in my RLIFE)
 
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In version 2.0b, when I play today with chaos orc I found two little problems :
1. The rider can't move.
2.The riderless Kodo beast 's devour skill can't use.
I also think the item cost 800 gold (the last item in chaos orc shop) is too imba and can cause extremely lag (maybe it's just my comp and network).
 
In version 2.0b, when I play today with chaos orc I found two little problems :
1. The rider can't move.
2.The riderless Kodo beast 's devour skill can't use.
I also think the item cost 800 gold (the last item in chaos orc shop) is too imba and can cause extremely lag (maybe it's just my comp and network).
Thanks for the extremely important report. For bugs 1 and 2, I will fix them for version 2.c, which will be released in 2 weeks.
By reporting these bugs you also made me discover other very important related bugs.

rep++ for your crucial report.

As for the item, Fiery Summon (I assume, the one that creates a start with a circle) I can always make it a little weaker. As for lag, I don't think it will cause much, at least it runs pretty well in my computer xD
 
Hey guys, I proudly inform of the new version of CCFE Beta 2.0c. In this new version I finally made some drastic changes in the Chaos Orcs that will reflect the new race's techtree. I also added a new ability to the Summoner which will make this hero a real pain for enemy summons and will provide the race with anti-summon magics, thus covering a serious deffice it has. I hope you all like the changes, I specially like the new Fel orc Rider ability, Devil's Speed, and I am sure you all will love it too.
 
Hey guys, I proudly inform of the new version of CCFE Beta 2.0c. In this new version I finally made some drastic changes in the Chaos Orcs that will reflect the new race's techtree. I also added a new ability to the Summoner which will make this hero a real pain for enemy summons and will provide the race with anti-summon magics, thus covering a serious deffice it has. I hope you all like the changes, I specially like the new Fel orc Rider ability, Devil's Speed, and I am sure you all will love it too.

Sounds good, keep up the good work.
 
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Well, i think i found some typos.... See my attached screen shoot for the details.
I'm looking forward for the next version :grin:
 

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