Da Purge? - killing dead people for memory space

[Pyramidhe@d]

hey.anyways, always with the boring backstory first.

i have been on the chat only pretty recently and you know what i notice? there is like a new member joining every 5 min or something. now if you count all the 5 min per day, thats a lot of new people joining. obviously i am exaggerating but you get the idea. and i was wondering like, "how many people are registerd on hive?"
the answer currently? 42906! wow. thats a lot of people. a small town or something. we could have our own army and stuff. lol

then i had a thought. "how many are just empty accounts?" that means, inactivity. (why was i thinking this? well just a random thought that poped out in my incoherent mind.)

well, if you count the pages in ascending order of last visit, the first 141 pages havent visited since 2006. thats about 4200 people. they seem to have an average of 2 posts i reckon. and a good proportion of these people have idiotic name as CAN_I_KILL_U, R U Getting Your Fibre, OwnedByANoob and so on. these people joined just for the lols.

so i am suggesting we delete these account for sake of memory space. i am sure storing info on +4200 people would require certain amount of space on the hard-disk. i could be wrong.

 

[Eleandor]

Meh, I'm sure the whole off-topic area consumes more HD than all inactive members.

 

[Pyramidhe@d]

yes. but its entertaining.
dead people are not entertaining. (unless you are into that sort of stuff, which still doesnt apply to this situation)

 

[Gilles]

This topic is brought up about twice a year.
No, it does not take up much space at all, and no it is not worth deleting the old accounts.

The only reason to delete them, is to free up old names, but "/care", as PurplePoot would say.

 

[PurplePoot]

/care

(Just popping in because Gilles appears to have summoned me)

Ralle purges the old no-post +1year inactive members every now and then, but it really doesn't make much of a difference, The most entertaining result was the "Blizzard Entertainment" dummy account was killed off.

 

[Pyramidhe@d]

oh really? sorry for this. if it dont take space then. still looks like a waste tho

 

[PurplePoot]

Think about the amount of information a single image has to store against the amount of information a bit of text does. Then think about how many images you can store on a modern hard drive.

Keep in mind you can store several letters per pixel for your average image.

 

[Pyramidhe@d]

ok. thank you. do you want me to delete this thread? wait. can i even delete this threads?

 

[Zombie]

ok. thank you. do you want me to delete this thread? wait. can i even delete this threads?

No, you can't. And it won't be necessary either, as you can point out this thread as an example at next year's thread.

 

[Dr Super Good]

All the accounts on this site I doubt use more than 100 MB (avatars not included).

May I remind people that a GB is only like 0.1£ and there definatly is not a GB of account data.

 

[LordDz]

How much space does one account take up? Like in KB..
Dr Super Good, yer avatar = 20.92 kB.
Let's say that every bloody account got an avatar:
42906x20.92 = 897593,52kb = holy marraconi! 876.55566mb!

 

[Dr Super Good]

876 MB is very little concidering the average new desktop PC has atleast 1TB storage space.

 

[LordDz]

876 MB is very little concidering the average new desktop PC has atleast 1TB storage space.

Exactly. So I doubt we need this cleancing ^^

 

[Pyritie]

Ralle said that every backup he does takes up about 1.something GB.

Every day.

I dunno if that includes all of the old stuff though. If it does, he should delete the old backups

 

[frostwhisper]

dead people are not entertaining. (unless you are into that sort of stuff, which still doesnt apply to this situation)

Sorry, I had to.

 

[wereguy2]

How much space does one account take up? Like in KB..
Dr Super Good, yer avatar = 20.92 kB.
Let's say that every bloody account got an avatar:
42906x20.92 = 897593,52kb = holy marraconi! 876.55566mb!

A LOT of these inactive users dont have avatars (though I guess people like me have bigger ones to offset this...)

Anyway, I personally think this WOULD be a good idea, if just to free up names (anarchianbedlam likes complaining about this )

 

[Belgarath]

DSG uses a .gif though, so it'll probably be larger than a. no avatar b. an ordinary avatar c. probably other .gif's. But yeah, I doubt that there's trouble from the avatars.

 

[wereguy2]

His avatar is like 5 frames, which is nothing compared to ones like mine (44 frames), which is barely over half the size limit.

 

[Pyritie]

DSG uses a .gif though, so it'll probably be larger than a. no avatar b. an ordinary avatar c. probably other .gif's. But yeah, I doubt that there's trouble from the avatars.

Gifs are actually very small in size. They compress very well. Unfortunately, that's why they have such a limited colour pallet.

 

[Ralle]

hey.anyways, always with the boring backstory first.

i have been on the chat only pretty recently and you know what i notice? there is like a new member joining every 5 min or something. now if you count all the 5 min per day, thats a lot of new people joining. obviously i am exaggerating but you get the idea. and i was wondering like, "how many people are registerd on hive?"
the answer currently? 42906! wow. thats a lot of people. a small town or something. we could have our own army and stuff. lol

then i had a thought. "how many are just empty accounts?" that means, inactivity. (why was i thinking this? well just a random thought that poped out in my incoherent mind.)

well, if you count the pages in ascending order of last visit, the first 141 pages havent visited since 2006. thats about 4200 people. they seem to have an average of 2 posts i reckon. and a good proportion of these people have idiotic name as CAN_I_KILL_U, R U Getting Your Fibre, OwnedByANoob and so on. these people joined just for the lols.

so i am suggesting we delete these account for sake of memory space. i am sure storing info on +4200 people would require certain amount of space on the hard-disk. i could be wrong.

It's nothing.

This topic is brought up about twice a year.
No, it does not take up much space at all, and no it is not worth deleting the old accounts.

The only reason to delete them, is to free up old names, but "/care", as PurplePoot would say.

Exactly.

Ralle said that every backup he does takes up about 1.something GB.

Every day.

I dunno if that includes all of the old stuff though. If it does, he should delete the old backups

I delete them manually which means I have many*1GB laying around.

A LOT of these inactive users dont have avatars (though I guess people like me have bigger ones to offset this...)

Anyway, I personally think this WOULD be a good idea, if just to free up names (anarchianbedlam likes complaining about this )

True but most people don't have avatars.

Some statistics:
We have 45k users occupying 11 MB total in the database.
Let me count the space used for avatars: 86 MB
Custom profile pics: 50 MB
Resources total: 18 GB
I also have a whole copy of wc3sear.ch on the server, which is: 8.2 GB

Server space: 500 GB

So we have plenty of space

EDIT: Oh and I have 43 days * 1 GB/day of database backups

 

[Pyramidhe@d]

500GB?!?! guess we wont be running out of room anytime soon.

 

[Pyritie]

Heh, that's good to know.

 

[wereguy2]

True but most people don't have avatars.

Which is what I said
Silly Plural-Of-Moose

 

[Dr Super Good]

And if he does run out of space, I am sure he could always throw in another 0.5-1 TB of HDD space as that may only happen in a few years time and already HDD space is getting dirt cheap.