Creeps like DotA 6x6

[Narg666]

Hey, hellow all, I wanna know how to create a map with 6x6 team BUT with creeps...

Let me explain...

In dota 5x5 we got 12 players

10 Heroes
2 Creeps

How to create the creeps of DotA 6x6?

Where we got

12 heroes

Who is the creeps? Neutrals, it can be! Because each creep attacks each other...

Can someone help me?

Thanks.

 

[-Kobas-]

Well maybe neutrals, you can change ally settings with triggers right?

 

[MortAr]

Problem is neutral doesn't share their vision, so it's not an option.

 

[Narg666]

Neutrals can't be, because we have only 1 kind of neutral agressive, and will be necessary 2 at least on dota and 4 at my map, because it is 2x2x2x2, and they need to attack each other, share vision and friendship with players.

 

[Dr. Boom]

Moin moin =)

What are you talking? lol

I give a map that shows a SIMPLE! example how this stuff works with two triggers only:

The Triggers

• Init
  • Events
    • Map initialization
  • Conditions
  • Actions
    • -------- --------
    • Player - Make Player 1 (Red) treat Neutral Passive as an Ally with shared vision
    • Player - Make Neutral Passive treat Player 1 (Red) as an Ally with shared vision
    • -------- --------
    • Player - Make Player 2 (Blue) treat Neutral Hostile as an Ally with shared vision
    • Player - Make Neutral Hostile treat Player 2 (Blue) as an Ally with shared vision
    • -------- --------
    • Player - Make Neutral Hostile treat Neutral Passive as an Enemy
    • Player - Make Neutral Passive treat Neutral Hostile as an Enemy
    • -------- --------
    • Player - Make Player 1 (Red) treat Neutral Hostile as an Enemy
    • Player - Make Player 2 (Blue) treat Neutral Passive as an Enemy

- Player 1 and Neutral Passive = Team 1
- Player 2 and Neutral Hostile = Team 2

function Spawn_Actions takes nothing returns nothing
    local integer i = 1
    local unit u
    local real x
    local real y
    
    loop
        exitwhen i == 3
        set x = GetRectCenterX(gg_rct_1)
        set y = GetRectCenterY(gg_rct_1)
        set u = CreateUnit(Player(PLAYER_NEUTRAL_AGGRESSIVE),'hfoo',x,y,180.00)
        set x = GetRectCenterX(gg_rct_3)
        set y = GetRectCenterY(gg_rct_3)
        call IssuePointOrder(u,"move",x,y)
        set u = null
        /// this was spawn BLUE + Neutral Aggresive - next is RED + Neutral passive
        set x = GetRectCenterX(gg_rct_2)
        set y = GetRectCenterY(gg_rct_1)
        set u = CreateUnit(Player(PLAYER_NEUTRAL_PASSIVE),'hkni',x,y,0.00)
        set x = GetRectCenterX(gg_rct_3)
        set y = GetRectCenterY(gg_rct_3)
        call IssuePointOrder(u,"move",x,y)
        set u = null     
        
        set i = i + 1
    endloop        
endfunction

function InitTrig_Spawn takes nothing returns nothing
    set gg_trg_Spawn = CreateTrigger(  )
    call TriggerRegisterTimerEvent(gg_trg_Spawn,10.00,true)
    call TriggerAddAction(gg_trg_Spawn,function Spawn_Actions)
endfunction

- This trigger to spawn the units

For testing you can use the "Iseedeadpeople" - cheat to see that neutral hostile doesn't attack blue and blue doesn't attack neutral hostile.

Greetings
~ The Bomb King > Dr. Boom

 

[Narg666]

Dr. Boom, is something really like that BUT, I still need the neutral creeps and I need 4 "extra" teams understand? Because in my map, I use 2x2x2x2 system and not only 5x5, so I need it to become 3x3x3x3 like 6x6 in DotA, got it? So i Need at least 17 players.

12 Heroes
4 Creeps
1 Neutral

Thank you for your time.

EDIT*

Well, I was thinking about a way to do it, and comes to my head this:

Maybe if I can create the creep units to a playing player but he doesn't have control of those units, my problem will be fixed!!

 

[Assassins-Creed]

Probably give the units you want to be unable to be clicked the default abilities - locust which makes them unclickable to all players.

 

[blacksheepwalll]

you could make it whenever player selects a unit deselect it for you idea
i think with jass you can make it better but im not sure

 

[Narg666]

No No, I want those creeps to be really creeps... locust make the creep unattackable too and unselecting creeps will not let heroes and units see their creep upgrades (Like when the lane of DotA is completely destroyed, the houses.)

 

[Anachron]

There is no way you can have 17 players, since its hardcoded to 16.

 

[Apheraz Lucent]

Red, Blue, Teal, ... - 12 ,,Normal Player"
Neutral Passive and Hostile - You would need them too.

But, the Neutral Victim is free to go with!
I seem to remember another neutral besides victim, but I don't know which one.

 

[Anachron]

There are 16 players:
Players 0 - 11
Neutral passive
Neutral agressive
Neutral victim
Neutral special

If you don't believe me, go into GUI, go into any action that requires a player, check the player choose dialog and check how many players are in there.

 

[Apheraz Lucent]

So, the solution is to just trigger allies and player controllers. Not much, not hard, quite useful.

 

[Anachron]

By the way, DotA is 5on5, while the first (red) and another player is used for creeps.

 

[Apheraz Lucent]

Red and Green I think? Well, that way, it's little harder to test and trigger.

 

[Narg666]

So I can have the normal creeps but without neutral creeps right?

 

[Apheraz Lucent]

As Anachron and me counted and wrote multiple times, you can have a total of 16 players in your map. When you take out the Neutral Passive and Hostile, you still have 14 players. The neutral Aggressive and Victim can't be used by player slots, but they can still be used as creeps.

 

[Assassins-Creed]

• Events
  • Player - Player 1 (Red) Selects a unit
• Conditions
• Actions
  • Selection - Remove (Triggering unit) from selection for (Triggering player)
  • If (All Conditions are True) then do (Then Actions) else do (Else Actions)
    • If - Conditions
      • Or - Any (Conditions) are true
        • Conditions
          • (Current order of (Triggering unit)) Equal to (Order(stop))
          • (Current order of (Triggering unit)) Equal to (Order(move))
          • (Current order of (Triggering unit)) Equal to (Order(hold position))
    • Then - Actions
      • Unit - Add a 10.00 second Generic expiration timer to (Triggering unit)
    • Else - Actions

function Trig_Untitled_Trigger_001_Func002Func002C takes nothing returns boolean
    if ( ( GetUnitCurrentOrder(GetTriggerUnit()) == String2OrderIdBJ("stop") ) ) then
        return true
    endif
    if ( ( GetUnitCurrentOrder(GetTriggerUnit()) == String2OrderIdBJ("move") ) ) then
        return true
    endif
    if ( ( GetUnitCurrentOrder(GetTriggerUnit()) == String2OrderIdBJ("hold position") ) ) then
        return true
    endif
    return false
endfunction

function Trig_Untitled_Trigger_001_Func002C takes nothing returns boolean
    if ( not Trig_Untitled_Trigger_001_Func002Func002C() ) then
        return false
    endif
    return true
endfunction

function Trig_Untitled_Trigger_001_Actions takes nothing returns nothing
    call SelectUnitRemoveForPlayer( GetTriggerUnit(), GetTriggerPlayer() )
    if ( Trig_Untitled_Trigger_001_Func002C() ) then
        call UnitApplyTimedLifeBJ( 10.00, 'BTLF', GetTriggerUnit() )
    else
    endif
endfunction

//===========================================================================
function InitTrig_Untitled_Trigger_001 takes nothing returns nothing
    set gg_trg_Untitled_Trigger_001 = CreateTrigger(  )
    call TriggerRegisterPlayerSelectionEventBJ( gg_trg_Untitled_Trigger_001, Player(0), true )
    call TriggerAddAction( gg_trg_Untitled_Trigger_001, function Trig_Untitled_Trigger_001_Actions )
endfunction

Maybe add a time out function for the triggering player?
QE:Use patrol instead of attack-move if you use this.

 

[Super-Sheep]

You can use Neutral Victim and Special as waves and still have Neutral Hostile and Passive in the game.

Theres 6v6 version of Dota too btw.. So it should be doable.

 

[Apheraz Lucent]

Assassin, what the hell have you posted there? And super sheep, no need to repeat what has been said multiple times.

 

[Anachron]

Yes, but they only have 2 teams. THAT is the thing. He wants 4 teams with 1 player for creeps, which means 4*4 = 16 players, so he can not use any neutral aggressive or neutral passive player anymore.

 

[Apheraz Lucent]

But what have Assassin posted in there? :S
Probably missed the topic :3

 

[Anachron]

Maybe posted it in the wrong thread? It's totally not belonging in here I guess.

 

[Narg666]

I think Assassin was trying to make a sistem to unselect creeps! Hiho! I know it all, but unselect creep is not exactly what I want. I think I should remove all the neutral creeps and use the 4 "Neutral" teams as creeps. :/

 

[Assassins-Creed]

Add a time out system and the clicking player gets a timeban or something? Random ideas here.

 

[Vunjo]

Make creeps belong to 1 player on each side.
Then, make sure you turn bounty off for all players, INCLUDING PLAYERS WITH CREEPS.
[trigger=My Trigger]MyTrigger
Events
Player 1(red) selects a unit
Conditions
Or- Any (Conditions are true)
(Unit-type of (Triggering unit)) Equal to Footman
(Unit-type of (Triggering unit)) Equal to Rifleman
((Triggering unit) belongs to an ally of (Triggering Player) Equal to True
Actions
Selection - Clear Selection for Triggering Player
Unit - Order (Triggering Unit) to Stop
Unit - Order (Triggering Unit) to Attack-Move to (Center of Your Region Where Creeps Move)
Unit Group - Pick every unit in (Units owned by (Triggering Player)) and do (Actions)
If (All Conditions are True) then do (Then Actions) else do (Else Actions)
If - Conditions
((Picked units) is a Hero) Equal to True
Then - Actions
Selection - Select (Picked unit) for (Triggering Player)[/trigger]

This works, tested twice =D

 

[Anachron]

((Picked units) is a Hero) Equal to True
This should be inside the trigger conditions

 

[Vunjo]

((Picked units) is a Hero) Equal to True
This should be inside the trigger conditions

ok i forgot to write that, big deal =D

 

[Apheraz Lucent]

It is a big deal. And please, for Christ sake, stop writing triggers that are off topic!

 

[Vunjo]

It is a big deal. And please, for Christ sake, stop writing triggers that are off topic!

it's a signature omg, and what does that have to do with this??

 

[Apheraz Lucent]

That is correct. What does that you wrote have to do with this? I seem to remember no1 asked that triggers in here. So, please stop arguing with me.