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[Campaign] Centaur Horde Campaign

Discussion in 'Map Development' started by CentaurWarlord, May 29, 2014.

  1. CentaurWarlord

    CentaurWarlord

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    「Centaur Horde Campaign」

    By CentaurWarlord

    Gameplay
    [tr]Rexxar-like Hero-centric campaign but with plenty of build-destroy, fixed-force RTS maps/missions following Centaur Heroes and their allied Heroes, interacting with Warcraft races post-Cataclysm WoW lore through different regions like Desolace and Tanaris.

    Features
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    SIX LARGE REGIONAL MAPS planned: Desolace, Feralas, Un'Goro, Tanaris (Thousand Needles as an instance), Dragonblight, Silithus
    3 instanced RTS missions per REGIONAL map
    3 instanced RPG missions per REGIONAL map
    Hero Level capped at Max 100 for replayability with endgame replayable RPG and RTS Missions and Bosses and Arenas with increasing Loot and Difficulty, Onslaught Survival Map
    Centaur Race, with WoW/DOTA 2 ripped and further modified models for units, buildings, Heroes with custom abilities/spells/effects, nomadic mechanics like mobile resource dropcenters with migrating buildings, little defenses allows for refreshing macro play, low hp but speedy, micro-engaging armies
    Centaur Allied Races: Sandfury Trolls, Satyrs, Magnataur, Tolvir
    Neutral Factions: Cenarion Circle, Earthen Ring, Alliance, Horde
    Enemy Factions: Burning Legion with Fel Centaur and Fel Orcs, Scourge with Fel Magnataur, Aqir Empire with Qiraji/Silithids


    Credits
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    Centaur Tent Camp by Alfagar from Hive Workshop. Link here: http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/mode ... t%26r%3D20
    Note: The above is Placeholder. I plan on removing this model with WoW-imported model

    Inspiration:
    Entaria Campaigns [Centaur Crusade and Book of Lumina]
    Rise of the Blood Elves Campaign
    Dwarven Campaign
    Iceborn RPG Campaign
    World of Warcraft: The Frozen Throne MOD

    World of Warcraft Mists of Pandaria by Blizzard Entertainment

    VALVE PERMISSION:
    As it is written in VALVE's Steam Subscriber Agreement:
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    G. Restrictions on Use of Software

    You may not use the Software for any purpose other than the permitted access to Steam and your Subscriptions, and to make personal, non-commercial use of your Subscriptions, except as otherwise permitted by this Agreement or applicable Subscription Terms. Except as otherwise permitted under this Agreement (including any Subscription Terms or Rules of Use), or under applicable law notwithstanding these restrictions, you may not, in whole or in part, copy, photocopy, reproduce, publish, distribute, translate, reverse engineer, derive source code from, modify, disassemble, decompile, create derivative works based on, or remove any proprietary notices or labels from the Software or any software accessed via Steam without the prior consent, in writing, of Valve.
    And:
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    C. License to Use Valve Developer Tools

    Your Subscription(s) may include access to various Valve tools that can be used to create content ("Developer Tools"). Some examples include: the Valve software development kit (the "SDK") for a version of the computer game engine known as "Source" (the "Source Engine") and the associated Valve Hammer editor, The Source® Filmmaker Software, or in-game tools through which you can edit or create derivative works of a Valve game. Particular Developer Tools (for example, The Source® Filmmaker Software) may be distributed with separate Subscription Terms that are different from the rules set forth in this Section. Otherwise, you may use the Developer Tools, and you may use, reproduce, publish, perform, display and distribute any content you create using the Developer Tools, however you wish, but solely on a non-commercial basis.
    According to these quotes it is fine to use their material because:

    1. I do not use this material for any profit based purpose, merchandise or product promotion.
    2. Models were obtained through developer tools that are designed to rip models from VALVE's products.
    3. I do respect Valve's work and give it a proper credit without deeming their work as my own.
    4. My work is free for everyone to obtain, because it is a fruit of a hobby, which is modding for fun.
    5. These materials are to be used only to increase the overall gameplay quality of a map absent any other purpose.
    6. I would not abuse it in any way and this use of materials pose no threat to any material used.


    Changelog
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    Version 1.0: WIP TBD (TEST MAP too RAW still)
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    Early Alpha Screenshots
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    #1 [UNIT] Centaur Nomad
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    #2 [SPECIAL UNIT] Centaur Packbeast with Campaign Rations tech upgrade

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    #3 [TRAIN WORKER] Centaur Nomad

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    #4 [TRAIN UNIT] Centaur Packbeast

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    #5 [TECH] Centaur Marauding

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    #6 [TECH] Caravanserai

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    #7 [TECH] Campaign Rations upgrade for Centaur Kodo Packbeast

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    #8 [BUILDING] Centaur Yurt

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    #9 [UNIT] Centaur Archer

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    #10 [UNIT] Centaur Drudge

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    #11 [UNIT] Centaur Impaler

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    #12 [UNIT] Centaur Outrunner

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    #13 [UNIT] Centaur Shaman

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    #14 [UNIT] Centaur Druid

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    #15 [CAMPAIGN HERO] Kolkar Khan Leh'Prah

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    #16 [CAMPAIGN HERO] Magram Khan Kammah

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    #17 [CAMPAIGN HERO] Galak Khan Ablinh

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    #18 [CAMPAIGN HERO] Gelkis Khan Shodo

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    #19 [CAMPAIGN HERO] Maraudine Khan Hratha

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    #20 [CAMPAIGN HERO] Sandfury Troll Leader Muad'Dib'jin

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    #21 [ABILITY] Sandworm Strike

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    Map Description Generator 「By Vengeancekael」
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    Last edited: Jul 11, 2016
  2. WerBackIII

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    Sounds interesting.
     
  3. Theoden of KoMe

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    And were is that test map??
     
  4. CentaurWarlord

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    @Theoden

    As I stated at the top of this page, it's a very alpha build WIP project. There is a Test Map, but I have decided not to post it yet, since it's still very raw.

    I will post a Balance Test Map only when I will fully master the WoW-WC3 and DOTA2-WC3 pipelines and get at least the Centaur civilization complete with custom buildings, units, Heroes.

    So far, I have custom buildings but with WC3 models/textures (WC3 Centaur Tents), only one Centaur Nomad worker with WoW Centaur model+pickaxe+animation (however the Death animation is bugged floating in midair), and just two of the Heroes done (still using vanilla WC3 models/textures).

    I hope you understand.

    Best regards,
    Centaur
     
  5. PlankingWolf

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    Pretty interesting. You got my support.
    We all have our favorite races, like mine, are Murlocs.
    Good luck on your map, sir.
     
  6. CentaurWarlord

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    Thanks PlankingWolf! It's an honor! :D

    Yeah, haha I can't wait for Heroes of the Storm to come out. Murky is there as a crazy Banzai kamikaze Specialist lawls!

    Yep, by the looks of it, I'll need all the luck and assistance I can get. I'll be hitting the Modeller's forums as directed by several helpful folks here at Hive Workshop ;)
     
  7. Garodar

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    I love centaurs in a way because of the battles they led with Thrall and his people.
     
  8. CentaurWarlord

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    So far, I've completed the following, with WoW models, custom WoW gear/weapons/shields, and animations:
    [Units]
    1. Centaur Nomad (basic worker). GEAR: Pickaxe
    2a. Centaur Archer (Tier 1 Ranged Unit). GEAR: Bow1, Arrow, Quiver, Arrowstack. Abilities: Envenomed Arrows, Burning Arrows (upgrade). Like Headhunter into Berserker, Centaur Archer can upgrade into Centaur Impaler.
    2b. Centaur Impaler (Tier 2 Ranged Unit - armored model). GEAR: Bow2, Arrow, Quiver, Arrowstack. Abilities: Envenomed Arrows, Burning Arrows (upgrade)
    3a. Centaur Drudge (Tier 1 Melee Unit). GEAR: Centaur Spear. Abilities: Whistle Packhound (upgrade). Like Headhunter into Berserker, Centaur Archer can upgrade into Centaur Impaler.
    3b. Centaur Outrunner (Tier 2 Melee Unit - armored model). GEAR: Scimitar, Centaur Spearstack on back. Abilities: Whistle Packhound (upgrade)
    3c. Hyena Packhound (Summon Melee Unit) [Limit 1 per Caller]
    4. Centaur Shaman - Centaur Female model (Tier 2 Magic Support Unit). GEAR: Centaur Throwing Spear, Wolfhead hat, Blue Cloth Torso. ABILITIES: Healing Totem, Purge, Lightning
    5. Centaur Druid - Centaur Female model (Tier 2 Magic Support Unit). GEAR: Druid Staff, Kalimdor Eagle hat, Purple Cloth Torso. ABILITIES: Rejuvenation, Mark of the Wild, Moonfire
    6. Centaur Khan. ABILITIES: Warstomp, Endurance Aura, Reincarnation
    Galak Khan Ablinh. GEAR: Blue Spear [just like in WOW]
    Gelkis Khan Shodo. GEAR: Black Scimitar [just like in WOW]
    Kolkar Khan Leh'Prah. GEAR: Qurjai Spear [just like in WOW]
    Magram Khan Kammah. GEAR: Mace and Shield [just like in WOW]
    Maraudine Khan Hratha. GEAR: Two-Handed Axe [just in like in WOW]
    Note: These will be supporting NPCs and sometimes PCs in certain missions but not heroes per se.

    [Buildings] - complete with customized Birth and Death animations, as well as Stand animation of course
    1. Centaur Yurt (basic Food house). Can Migrate to turn into a mobile Centaur Migrant(Yurt) and re-deploy elsewhere.
    2. Centaur Forge (Upgrades building). Can Migrate to turn into a mobile Centaur Migrant(Forge) and re-deploy elsewhere.

    [Heroes] - complete with customized icons, spells, etc
    [Strength/Agility] Centaur Khan, Stonetalon Khan Turok or Turok, Khan of Stonetalon (WOW Centaur Khan for now, to be replaced with DOTA 2 Centaur Warrunner model/animations)
    Ability 1: Hoofstomp
    Ability 2: Cleave
    Ability 3: Marksmanship Aura
    Ability 4: Charge

    [Strength] Magnataur Runemaster, Dregmar Runebrand (WC3 Magnataur for now, plan on using Dregmar Runebrand NPC model/animation for him)
    Ability 1: Rune Shield
    Ability 2: Rune Weapon
    Ability 3: Runed Resilience
    Ability 4: Rune Shard Armor

    [Agility/Intelligence] Sandfury Mahdi, Muad'dib'jin (Rokhan model for now, plan on using Sul the Sandcrawler model for him)
    Ability 1: Sandworm Strike
    Ability 2: Quicksand
    Ability 3: Crysknife Finale
    Ability 4: Sandstorm

    So, I plan to push out the Centaur Race Test Map sometime soon, as soon as I get the buildings done, I think.
     
  9. Jevan Grimtotem

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    Oh wow, thanks for the find Jevan Grimtotem!

    I did find some models of this set here on Hive Workshop (currently it's my Tier3 Main Building, but I'll replace it soon enough) and I give them props for sticking with WC3 models to achieve these original productions. I like all these buildings as ideas except the Watchpost. How would a four-legged Centaur get up that ladder lol? Everything else is stellar, and frankly better for a nomad human civ rather than a four-legged Centaur humanoid civ.

    However, since I'm going to have WoW textures for even the map and tree doodads and such, I'm going to keep to WoW artstyle, which I feel is similar enough to WC3, yet more visually up-to-date than WC3 quite dated models. I mean for Orcs, Humans, Undead, and Night Elves, most models are still quite passable, but for the Centaur, they had one of the LOWEST polygon models ever. Their WC3 heads were just merely triangles. They looked atrocious. WoW Centaur look better (after removing offensive flies, etc).

    If I were not to use WoW models at all, and purely stick with WC3 visuals, then yeah, I'd definitely use that. I still downloaded it and will tinker around with it for inspiration for my buildings but I don't think I'll end up using any WC3 materials for the new Centaur Horde. I may use these buildings for old/Fel Centaurs though, perhaps.

    Again, thanks for finding such a great resource of buildings/building ideas for the Centaurs/nomads.

    Peace,
    Centaur
     
  11. CentaurWarlord

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    Updated the main thread with Early Alpha screenshots.

    I just need the time to finish the building set at least, since buildings are far easier to mod in than units with animations/props/weapons.

    Still struggling to port over DOTA 2 models for Centaur Warrunner, Leshraq, and Enchantress. I'm thinking to port over Lunara from HotS instead of Enchantress possibly.

    Still, my most pressing issue is finding the time to finish this mod to at least functioning race. Still struggling to have Berserker-like upgrade for Archers into Impalers and Drudges into Outrunners.
     
  12. pick-a-chew

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    Seems like a massive task, you've clearly been struggling with motivation for two whole years? (unless you've been ripping models the whole time :p)

    Is it necessary to rip so many models? I think you have enough with the melee, range and caster variants of the centaur model.

    You are struggling to find the time because building a fully functioning (including custom models) AND balanced race can't be done on a whim. The more units/buildings a race has, the longer it takes to create and balance. You can try cutting out auxiliary units/buildings that aren't really that important.

    Also posting because i myself am making a Centaur campaign (more to kill time and learn the campaign editor than anything serious) and would like to see how you take things (your direction lore-wise seems to be ruthlessly creative!)

    Good luck :)
     
  13. Alok

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    You could use an edited spell based on Destroyer Form for that, like I used in my map. The spell can additionally have an upgrade as a requirement for being cast. But, beware that if you use that spell on a worker unit it will not be able to build anything, so it needs to be complemented with this trigger:

    • Pot Woodcutter
      • Events
      • Unit - A unit Begins casting an ability
      • Conditions
      • (Ability being cast) Equal to Invincibility Potion
      • Actions
      • Wait 0.90 seconds
      • Unit - Replace (Triggering unit) with a Fel Orc Peon using The old unit's life and mana
      • Selection - Select (Last replaced unit) for (Owner of (Last replaced unit))

    Here's the test map in the attachment for you to see, test and copy all of this:
     

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