Battle Depths Beta V0.7

[Moderator]

09:52, 7th Aug 2010
ap0calypse: Rejected

 

[Dragonson]

If i broke any rules with this map: Tell me.
I read them all but i am still not sure if i have done anything wrong.

Enjoy =)

Also: it is a good idea to read the map manual.

Oh and, Please rate and Approve/disapprove the map =)
And report ANY bugs to the Battle Depths thread or to me.

 

[sonicstorm]

4 me the description is fine.
I'l try this one.

 

[Dragonson]

Glad to hear =)

Oh and: Please visit the development thread too =)
http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/...hs-a-new-kind-of-hero-arena-hopefully-133392/

 

[Rainbow Evil]

As I said,terrain is kinda empty,but since beta,ill give 4/5

 

[Dragonson]

I will now be off for three weeks.
Enjoy the map as much as possible while im gone!

Dragonson

 

[Dragonson]

I will now be back for a couple of days, then off for a week, and then home for a long time =) hopefully...

(yeah... i got a change-in-plans)

 

[Dragonson]

Hey people =) i am now releasing the third beta of this map. Please post any ideas, bugs, rants or other stuff in the Battle Depths thread. (click the lich in my sig)

Also, please rate

Edit: I found some things that needs to be corrected in the information. Is it alllowed to update the map to do that?

 

[izaiphovias]

First of all, don't tripple post, use the edit button

Review:

my review

[-] Wisps wen there are taverns?: What those wisps called "Hero Selector" or something are doing there when you select your hero? You choose the hero via a Tavern, don't you? Then you should remove those wisps. (or a little idea: place peasants or something there, then you can call them as backers, this is better then wisps, don't you think?)
[-] map is a little empty:Terraim is quite empty, put more doodoads in those dungeons.
[-] spell slots out of order: I played only with one hero until now, but i noticed that his spells aren't in a line on the slots of selection, know what i mean?
[+-]: About the training dummyes, why they are there? You can't even kill them to gain xp! If they are for another pupose, then the fault is mine.

Rating: 2/5, hope you improve this map, i realy want to give it a better rating

 

[Dragonson]

Thanks for the reveiw =)
1: The wisps.
If i removed the wisps, you would not be able to choose a hero from the tavern. Even if the tavern was within your vision, you would not be able to pick a hero unless a unit of yours is in range.
2: Terrain.
Yeah i know =( A freind of mine called Rainbow Evil is gonna do the terraining for me as soon as im finished with making the changes for next ver.
3: Spell slots.
I know exactly what you mean. It is a effect caused by taking unit spells and converting them to hero spells. Unfortunately, i know no way to fix it.
4: Training dummies:
I see that i should make a entry for this in the manual. The dummies simply are there to test your spells. Like, see how they look.

+rep for the reveiw =)
Oh and... did the Kill Hero = Crash bug happen?

 

[Septimus]

1: The wisps.
If i removed the wisps, you would not be able to choose a hero from the tavern. Even if the tavern was within your vision, you would not be able to pick a hero unless a unit of yours is in range.

Hogwash, if this is soo important. Set the unit model to .mdx path, scaling values to 0 and shadow to none. This way, you would not be able to see your unit.

 

[Dragonson]

You really dont like the wisps? The wisps that have almost become a symbol of hero selection? A symbol of hero arenas? You REALLY dont like the wisps? <=(

But OK... i can fix it if noone likes them.

 

[izaiphovias]

Hogwash, if this is soo important. Set the unit model to .mdx path, scaling values to 0 and shadow to none. This way, you would not be able to see your unit.

-yeah, Septimus's idea is good! Or you can change the model to a peasant, like i said, to give more sence to the "Hero Selector" unit, just do something about that wisps, they surely don't fit with the taverns type of hero selection.

-then it was realy my fault about the dummyes, sorry xD. Yeah, is a good idea to use them to watch your spells working.

-and for the buttons positions, go to the object editor, ability editor, slect the spell and change it's x/y values to something that puts them into a line.

as soon as you update your map, i'll give it another review.

 

[Dragonson]

Okay =)
You REALLY dont like the wisps? O.ô
And eh... X/Y values? The only values i know would have any chance to fix this is the button position ones, and i already fixed them. But anyway, what do you mean with X/Y values?

 

[Rainbow Evil]

those r rows and columns,with them u put skill icon where u want it.

 

[Dragonson]

Yeah i know those. But im pretty sure that the current problem is that they act strange in the ability learning section =(

 

[izaiphovias]

those r rows and columns,with them u put skill icon where u want it.

Exactly, x is the collum, from 0 to 3, and y the line, from 0 to 3 too (i think). And what do you mean with "they act strange in the ability section"?

I'll test 0.4 as soon as i have time!

 

[Dragonson]

Well, dont =) 0.5 is out in some minutes, and it will have MAJOR TERRAIN UPGRADE!

Edit: Correction: Will be out in about half an hour. Small delay =(

 

[izaiphovias]

Anyway, i'll test it. And i liked that "MAJOR TERRAIN UPGRADE", hope it is greatly upgraded, this will make the map much much beter! I'll test it in a few hours.

 

[Dragonson]

0.5 released.
If you like the terrain, and want to give rep for it, give it to Rainbow Evil, and NOT to me!

 

[izaiphovias]

right, i'm going to see it

 

[Dragonson]

Enjoy

 

[izaiphovias]

Review:

my review

[-] Bugs Still Out There: You haven't fixed may things i said to you, but ofcourse you will on next versions, right?
[+-] Creeps Perhaps?: And if you add some creeps across the dungeons? Then you could make them respawn at every new round, only a sugestion.
[+-] Few Heroes: I know that this is only a bete, but i hope that you add new heroes, at least one, on the next version.
[+] Beter Terrain: Yeah, the terrain had a great improvement, congratulations Rainbow Evil and Dragonson

Rating: 2/5, finish fixing... but anyway, the improvements were pretty good.

 

[Dragonson]

1: Yeah il fix the ability positions =(
2: What? I added three creep bosses, and when killed they respawn after 1 min.
3: Yeahp. I will.
4: Thanks =)

Oh and... how come its still 2/5 when it now has one +, 2 +-, and only 1 -? Im sorry, but the rating before were the exact same, but with only negative and natural stuff. Can you give abit more details? Just wondering =(

 

[izaiphovias]

Oh, sorry for the creeps, i didn't saw them =D, but add more, not only bosses (if you want ofcourse)
And sorry for the rating too. Perhaps in 0.6 i will give you a beter one. See, one + is not enough to increase the rating, if Hive's rating was with 10 or more points you would sure recieve a beter raiting, hope i could explain =D.

Rating (if was with 10 points):
-First Review: 3/10
-Last Review: 5/10

 

[Dragonson]

Thanks
And i know one plus cant increase the rating, but more +es and less -es should be able too

 

[Dragonson]

Okay people. it will take abit time before the next ver is out, since it will be fricking massive. If i get all the hero ideas that i have at the moment done (its not ideas lacking this time!) il be having 6 or more heroes ready at the next version! (thats a half tavern.)
Next version will also contain a killing spree system! Thanks to zack1996. Along with that, i also hope to add more items. Stay tuned or visit the Battle Depths development thread for more!

 

[Dragonson]

New version finally out =) Enjoy people!

 

[Demonwarlord]

from what ive heard so far it sounds pretty promising, ill try it soon

 

[Dragonson]

Thank you =)

 

[izaiphovias]

Good to see the project up and runing again... =]

Review:

my review

[-] WISPS!!!!: Come one dude, remove those wisps!!
[-] Hero whithout voice: Ehm, there is one hero, don't remember the name right, i think it is Phyromancer or something, he is without voice sound
[+-] MORE CREEPS, MORE CREEPS!!: I still think it's better if you add some minor creeps, small monsters around the dungeons.
[+-] Irritating Sound: The sound that plays when a next round is about to beggin is just too loud, decrease the volume, it's irritating.
[++] About the changes: I don't know if he is one of the new heroes, but i just loved the model ya used for the Mage Hunter, i think that there is a new hero selection place, am i right? that's good.

Rating: 3/5, you still need to fix somethings and add more heroes and items, but it is already a good map.

 

[Dragonson]

Thanks for the Reveiw =D

The Wisps: Well, i made the selection area so it fits now (Wisps + Forest = It works mate!). Just think of them as wandering souls needing a body =( If you don't like them, should i replace them with treants? =P
I just... like the wisps. Gimme a permanent -1 if you wan't, i just can't help it.

Mute Hero: Will fix!

More Creeps?: Well, i can add some. But they won't be much for experiance or gold. That is why i haven't added minor creeps yet: I don't wan't people killing them for gold. (or xp)

Irritating Sound: I'l fix it =)

Weeh! Change!: Thanks =) The mage hunter is not new, but yes, the model is awesome. The credits goes to General Frank though, not me. And yes, the selection place has been refurnitured as i already said. Wich is as i also already said partly to make the wisps fit in.

Thanks again for reveiwing! +rep my freind =)

 

[izaiphovias]

well well, ya really like the wisps... right...
just put hard to kill but lvl 1 creeps, they won't give much xp
=]

 

[Dragonson]

'will =)

 

[Dragonson]

Ello people! new version is now out!

 

[Dragonson]

New version out people =D
Please remember to read the changelog.

 

[Vengeancekael]

dont triple post-.-use the edit button:

 

[FrozenFenrir]

well ive tryed it and...its almost unplayable.
-if u die from a creep u dont revive
-u have no chance to raise your level between the rounds by creeping.
-the "training grounds" is pretty much useless unless they would give exp.
-the skills are likely all slightly edited wc3 skills.... try something new/original...


2/5 just because of your map preview which isnt bad.

 

[Dragonson]

Heh Thanks for the info. I'l fix it.

Okay now... i have abit more time to answer now:
1: OOPS! Gottah fix.
2: That is not the point =) The creeps are there simply becouse alot of people wanted there to be creeps. I said to them it did not fit into the game, and they said that the creeps should be there just for being there. That is why creeps are there at all =P
3: The training grounds are only for working out your anger. And i am pretty sure i stated that in the manual.
4: The map bases itself on the new concepts, not the abilities. So yes, i know this. But i do also insist that some of the heroes, maybee about 40%, are equipped with abit more "Exiting" abilities, though the only ones entirely with new abilities is the Flame Spirit and Dryad.

Also about leveling: There is a system that gives every hero 1000 XP each round, and 200 gold to their owners. So it is possible to lv up even though you get beaten up =)

 

[FrozenFenrir]

1: hope so =O
2: ye but some leveling up BETWEEN the rounds would be nice
3: hm well pretty pointless imo =/
4: hm well i think more custom skills would make this map much better

oh and about that system u mentioned...it seems that its not working =O or do i have to activate it first?

 

[Hordeon]

Epic Dungeon = You need heroes with high movement speed, MORE CREEPS TO MAKE GAME INTERESTING!

 

[Dragonson]

I actually stopped modding this a while ago
But if anybody's interested in taking over i still have the files somewhere.

 

[Cweener]

Mass Purging Template Version 4.0
Rejection

Reason for not approving:
This is done.

 

[Dragonson]

This project is abandoned.
I still like the idea i had, but i use way too much time on my signature shop, and i'm not really in mood for mapping. :S

If you're posting here to get the map section purged or something, go ahead.
This shouldn't be here anyway.