Arthas.blp

[Moderator]

23:55, 24th Feb 2010
CloudWolf: Hmm.... the basic idea is pretty neat I love the colour scheme and the idea. It definately looks like aragorn!

However, the skin is a tad blurred and its hard to work out a lot of the detail in-game :/ I'd recommend sharpening it up a bit and adding some extra detail to the leather armour Right now, it just looks a bit like his armours melting xD

Dont get me wrong though, its an excellent start! Especially as its your first skin It just needs a few updates I'll leave it as pending for now and give you a chance to update it before I rate it

Dentothor: No Changes made. Rejected until updated.

 

[Revilo]

Its a good start but it needs more detail.

 

[grato]

I'm really happy to get constructive criticism, but would you please specifiy?

 

[M0rbid]

I think he needs overall details, if you take a look at his clothes you will see, that it's hardly to say, from which material his clothes are made! They're are a little to blury, things like this you have to get more detailed, also the dunedain symbol needs more work, so does the hair!
Would be great to get such a Aragorn skin, so keep on working!

 

[grato]

So, would you recommend a way to make the pants and the sleeves more clothlike? It's mostly handdrawn, because I've got no real idea of how to use the right filters for the right situations

 

[M0rbid]

You shouldn't use filters, even if you are able to ;-P or you won't get an approved skin here!
To your question: check this tutorial by Mr.Goblin: http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/2d-art-tutorials-281/mr-goblins-tutorial-110127/

This is very useful, even if your special clothes wishes are not in it, just read it, it will give you an understanding how to get different clothes and structures look good!
What program do you use?

 

[Hawk]

Nice !! I will download it quickly...+rep

 

[grato]

Thank you both, Morbid and Demi

 

[signoftheend]

Definetly change the sword if you can... Aragorn didn't have Frostmourne, if I remember my Lord of the Rings correctly...

Other than that, looks pretty good to me

 

[grato]

I think there already is a good Narsil on THW.

 

[Darkmoon Hero]

The whole thing could have better definition and shading. There are some great tutorials here on the Hive that can help you. Mr.Goblin's tutorial is one I'd recommend (link in M0rbid's post).

 

[Misha]

I think we already have Aragorn skin made outta Arthas, and that one is waay better than this one.

I suggest you search for it and look.

 

[grato]

Well, there sure are many skins better than mine, but that's not the point of me doing this, is it? I want to become a skinner - I needed an Aragorn-Skin ... So I decided to start with that.

 

[GhostThruster]

Looks okay, but the breastplate is sorta crooked and I don't know what his clothes are made of.

 

[M0rbid]

Much better right now, I'll give it a closer look later!

 

[Misha]

Well, there sure are many skins better than mine, but that's not the point of me doing this, is it? I want to become a skinner - I needed an Aragorn-Skin ... So I decided to start with that.

there isn't much what "we" can do, other than provide feedback (the good guys) what you need to do is to practice, practice, and grow in skill.

You should pay a visit to our tutorial section, to see how all the others do the pictures, step by step.

My favorite is http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/2d-art-tutorials-281/mr-goblins-tutorial-110127/

 

[grato]

Ah, I think I misunderstood you before. I thought you meant, I should give up and get the other one for my map. LoL

 

[Azsure]

The hands sleeves needs some more details, but the rest of the texture looks pretty fine now, good work though, keep like that! I will give it a closer look later.

 

[takakenji]

I think we already have Aragorn skin made outta Arthas, and that one is waay better than this one.

I suggest you search for it and look.

that skin is KING aragorn, not aragorn.

 

[Misha]

I think Hawkwing's "anti-noobism texturing" Tutorial, or however is called, has some tips on how to combat the arthas chest wrap. check it up :3

 

[grato]

Thanks for the tip mate, I will look for it.

 

[lilbeelzebub1]

The hair seems off to me. Also, that isn't the symbol of the Dunedain on his belt. The White Tree is Gondor's symbol, and the stars were only added to the Gondorian flag because Arwen sowed it that way. So really, this is more of a Battle of the Pelennor Fields skin.

Sorry, I'm just Tolkien nitpicky like that.

 

[grato]

Well, I was just doing that symbol because I got no other ideas. If you could tell me more about Dunedain-symbols I might change it.

I was working on the hair anyways, new V might be uploaded soon.

 

[Misha]

hmm.. some more.. highlights on the whole skin?

and.. doesn't the suit-armor.. whatever it is, have some.. creases or such?

 

[grato]

Hardened Leather usually doesn't get creases.

 

[Hawk]

If this is not going to be approved then i will jump from the highest building.It is a good skin !!

 

[lilbeelzebub1]

Well, I was just doing that symbol because I got no other ideas. If you could tell me more about Dunedain-symbols I might change it.

I was working on the hair anyways, new V might be uploaded soon.

Sorry, I wish I could help but there haven't really been many (if any) symbols made to represent the Dunedain. In the Third Age these were a people that were very secretive. Perhaps you could find an Arnor standard? Or you could use the Eriador one found here:

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=253976

Scroll down a little. However, I don't think that would go well with the skin. Perhaps you could think of something else to put there?

 

[lilbeelzebub1]

Oh, and just so you know I'm not completely negative I think the skin's gotten a lot better since it was first uploaded.

 

[Darkmoon Hero]

Just a side note to lilbeelzebub1, try not to double post (post 2 times in a row).
If you have something to add, just hit the edit button in the bottom-right of your post.

 

[ike_ike]

Horribly blurry. Low opacity and soft edged brushes really suck pretty hard. Also, there's only the vaguest sense of lighting on the green parts, and none at all on the green. I have no idea what sort of texture you're going for here, cause the whole thing looks like fairy floss :/

You need to have more defined textures
Less of that streaky blurry mess.
Maybe some rimlighting on the armour, to bring out some definition. Hang on, I'll try and do a paintover.


EDIT: 'kay, done ... something? Not quite what I had in mind, but meh. Basically, instead of doing loads of random lines, put a flat colour in, work out where the light'll hit and add lighting and shading accordingly.

 

[grato]

WoW, thanks for the tutorial! +rep

I'll try to redo it, however it should remain a bit blurry, since I got the feeling that being blurry makes it a bit more rough, more warrior- and less knight-type, if you know what I mean.

 

[Hawk]

Dude if you made the skin like that it will be much better and more realistic...That is good tutorial !

 

[Archangel_Tidusx]

its very.. scratchy. Definitely a good start though.

 

[cash42]

the skin is too blury in my opinion. and needs more contrast

 

[grato]

Sorry that there wasn't an update in such a long time, but my first attempt at reworking the breastplate was stopped by a sudden pc-freezing, which caused the loss of my work and fed me up a little bit. Anyways, here's the latest attempt.

 

[Hawk]

Are you going to make the skin like ike_ike's tutorial?

 

[Archangel_Tidusx]

It looks a lot better now. He looks sort of like a caveman with the clothes he is wearing

 

[grato]

It looks a lot better now. He looks sort of like a caveman with the clothes he is wearing

I don't know if this is the reaction I expected

 

[Archangel_Tidusx]

I don't mean to make it sound like it's bad. It's actually pretty good in my books. better than i could have done.

 

[cvb1]

this aragorn is good if you make like a LOTR map after the first of the second movie cuz this one dont relly look like when he was king

 

[lilbeelzebub1]

The boots bring the quality of the skin down a bit.

 

[War_Golum]

look like an thief =/

 

[grato]

Well then I'm pretty much satisfied. If you look at Aragorn in the first movie, when the Hobbits first meet him in the Pony, he looks pretty much like a highwayman.

 

[Alfagar]

Wow! Nice one!