Ally/War System 1.3

[Moderator]

17:54, 30th Nov 2008
Hanky:
A very simple system. But well, it works correct and the triggering is the most effective, with GUI, makeable. Maybe you could add some more small documentation but else you done a good job. This system could be really useful for some users who don't know how to do something like this.

 

[aaron]

very useful but easy to make, but good for lazy map makers

 

[Dark Destiny]

Rating - By Dark Destiny

0-15 Unacceptable
15-25 Okay
25-35 Good
35-45 Great
45-50 Uber

Creativity 6/10
Triggers 8/10
Effects 6/10
Gui - Used for this spell. 9/10
JASS - No JASS in this spell.
VJass - No VJass in this spell.
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Readme - http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/pastebin.php?id=lhcl4k

29/50 - Good

 

[Dark Destiny]

Yes, mate. I've seen this to many times so i did just test fast and took a quick look at the triggers. And yes, i do know JASS and VJASS, I've learned it 3-4 days ago

 

[cHeRoL]

Gentlemen,calm down.

 

[dragor-X]

Yeah it seems nice, good for new map makers to learn (seriously, I learned by opening a lot maps and studying the triggers... *shy*). It's also faster for some people (lol me), juste copy pasting and TADAM!
Didn't saw triggers but seems nice!

 

[cHeRoL]

Yeah,you can learn by openening maps and have a watch

 

[TheBlooddancer]

You should add colors (-ally Blue) to make it more interesting. Also, you should make it more.. Special.

Make something like; If i attack you, i auto-declare war.

Current rating: Un-approved.

 

[cHeRoL]

Ok,TheBlooddancer,thanks for your suggestion.

 

[-TYRANID-]

How do i make this work?

This sounds great for Lazy map maker(likemyself) And i wanted to use this but i cannot get it to work. can anny one tell me what i might be doing wrong?

 

[Nichita_00]

Thank you man, I was SO fucking lazy to do this myself...

 

[The_Chevalier]

Feedback/Idea

Pretty good, but this might be better put as a Tutorial, but then again this way is good too because it can be used and classified as a system, and yes as you said easier for the lazy people. Overall its ok (3/5), and i agree with TheBlooddancer about the "if I attack you, I auto declare war!" system would be a good idea, maybe mix your system with that and the -ally blue thing intergrated as well would be overall (more likey) one of the best allying systems around, hmm, maybe if you don't want to take the time to do such a system, I might do it myself and post it. Its not too difficult at all i've already done it once for one of my maps.

And Hey if you need help doing so, PM me, i'd be happy to help!

 

[TheBlooddancer]

• Automat War 2
  • Events
    • Unit - A unit owned by Player 1 (Red) Is attacked
  • Conditions
    • (Owner of (Attacking unit)) Equal to Player 2 (Blue)
  • Actions
    • Player - Make Player 1 (Red) treat Player 2 (Blue) as an Enemy
    • Player - Make Player 2 (Blue) treat Player 1 (Red) as an Enemy

Could be optimized to be:

• Automat War 2
  • Events
    • Unit - A unit Is attacked
  • Conditions
  • Actions
    • Player - Make (Owner of (Attacked unit)) treat (Owner of (Attacking unit)) as an Enemy
    • Player - Make (Owner of (Attacking unit)) treat (Owner of (Attacked unit)) as an Enemy
    • Wait 20.0 seconds
    • Player - Make (Owner of (Attacked unit)) treat (Owner of (Attacking unit)) as an Neutral
    • Player - Make (Owner of (Attacking unit)) treat (Owner of (Attacked unit)) as an Neutral

Pretty much easier.

(The wait is for 'peace' if you havent been attacked in 20 seconds)

 

[cHeRoL]

Your trigger is good too,but depends,what kind of map you make or something like this.
-TYRANID- Read the "Credits and imports" section. (on map)

 

[James7]

Make it also to where you can declare wars based on colors. An example would be typing "-war purple" you would then be at war with the player with the corresponding color.

 

[cHeRoL]

I think is better with numbers than colours.

 

[James7]

Yeah but your system should encompass all different variants of use.

 

[adnan3]

didnt work :S im almost done with my map and all i need is ally system, i tried converting it to costum text but i didnt bother with the last trigger cuz i didnt want it to neutralise by itself, is that one needed 2??

 

[cHeRoL]

Copy all the triggers and read that Read Me.

 

[Bloodbane7]

umm how do i import varibles?

 

[Bloodbane7]

nevermind someone else answered that ^

but in the trigger set-up it is disabled because of the last 2 events-

-Add to ally the event (player- <blah blah blah>)
--Add to War the event (player- <blah blah blah>)

is this supposed to be disabled?

 

[Bloodbane7]

Nevermind again ^.^

I just right-clicked and enabled and it works lolz

nice program

 

[cHeRoL]

Thanks.
Hope it helped you.

 

[7h30]

Hmmm.....
You can improve it a bit,but it's cool .

 

[James7]

You should add a diplomacy using abilities in a tavern of some sort.

 

[cHeRoL]

Hmmm....dunno,can you be more explicit,please?

 

[James7]

Using abilities to represent the unally, ally, neutral ect. to which ever players.

 

[KingofCakes]

another system

does anyone know how to make an alliance system where the host can decide who goes together in a team? Better question: does anyone know a system which is doing this??? (need it for my map)

 

[cHeRoL]

There is a way but this system does not support it.

System UPDATED!

 

[X-OMG-X]

Bloodbane7 you triple posted

Anyways, not very creative idea but i think it turned out quite good.

 

[naitsirk]

One Problem with this i've checked and You can actually -ally and -war yourself.... I will show you how to Fix this if that is importent

 

[cHeRoL]

Please tell me if you know

 

[naitsirk]

Please tell me if you know

I think i got the Soloutin But we'll see if it's as i Think it is But that can't be done today(sorry...)

 

[cHeRoL]

Oke,don't rush

 

[MapperMalte]

Well, this has many lacks, I'm working on an ally system that fixes those lacks:

• You should only make auto-war if a player is attacked by a player that didn't ally him
• You should give a feature to forbid declaring war on initial allies
• You should support multiple color names (like grey and gray)
• You should ensure that the ally-war messages are correct. It means 'declare war on sb/sth.' and not 'declare war with sb./sth.'. Also 'allied' sounds far better than 'declared an alliance with', since 'declared an alliance with' is not correct
• You should give users a possibility to forbid partial alliances. So if player a wants to ally player b and writes '-ally #', then player b should get a request in form of a dialog and they ally each other if player b accepts the request. When a player declares war on another player, the other player declares war on player a.
• You should forbid the player who allied another player for X seconds to declare war on him when he allied him ==> Reduces abuse of allying like finding out the others position.
• You should also allow the command -unally
• You should display the player names colored
• You should add error messages (Already allied bla, cant ally yourself, have to wait, initial ally etc.)

Fullfill all features I listed and I'll give 5/5.
Until then my rating is 2/5

 

[cHeRoL]

O_O I am not a master of triggers and I won't do those things from that list because I don't have enough experience.

 

[MapperMalte]

Ok, then you get 3/5

 

[pal95]

Very very very thanks!!!

 

[cHeRoL]

Your welcome .

 

[Animalpower]

There is a strange glitch. When I attack the enemy it turns to neutral. Again I attack it turns shortly into enemy, then into a neutral. I think there are much things to fix on this spell.