Airfield (and aircraft!)

[Mechanical Man]

I think you should rename the thread heh.

zt2211, what tiberium trigger you need?

 

[zt2211]

Awesome harvester! It looks just like the original one!

With regards to a tiberium trigger, I am looking for one that causes damage to infantry that come within a short distance of a tiberium crystal. Here is the last one that I developed that worked:

• Tiberium Poisoning
  • Events
    • Time - Every 3.00 seconds of game time
  • Conditions
  • Actions
    • Custom script: set bj_wantDestroyGroup = true
    • Destructible - Pick every destructible in (Playable map area) and do (Actions)
      • Loop - Actions
        • If (All Conditions are True) then do (Then Actions) else do (Else Actions)
          • If - Conditions
            • ((Picked destructible) is dead) Equal to False
            • ((Destructible-type of (Picked destructible)) Equal to Tiberium (Large)) or ((Destructible-type of (Picked destructible)) Equal to Tiberium (Small))
          • Then - Actions
            • Set L = (Position of (Picked destructible))
            • Unit Group - Pick every unit in (Units within 100.00 of L matching (((((Matching unit) is A ground unit) Equal to True) and (((Matching unit) is A structure) Equal to False)) and ((((Matching unit) is Undead) Equal to False) and (((Matching unit) is Mechanical) Equal to False)))) and do (Actions)
              • Loop - Actions
                • Unit - Set life of (Picked unit) to ((Life of (Picked unit)) - 2.00)
                • Custom script: call RemoveLocation(udg_L)
          • Else - Actions
            • Do nothing

However, there is a major problem with this: it causes the game to lag badly. Since destructibles cannot carry abilities (i.e. immolation as poisoning), I seem to be limited in my options...

 

[Mechanical Man]

Why don't you make dummy units at the position of tiberium crystal?

 

[zt2211]

I've tried that once but I think I did it wrong...I'm currently trying that out again...

 

[Chaos Overlord]

Yay thats awesome! So did you ever release the Conyard? I just wanna play around with it but Im sure some people have practical uses for it. Can we expect something next? I wonder what a Hand of Nod or a Power Plant would look like in WC3....(hinthint)

 

[PrinceofIce]

Illidan i know your making this out of pure boredom but they rock out loud and there helping to make a map so much better.

 

[zt2211]

I agree! Illidan's work is phenominal to say the least. The models he made are real works of art.

 

[boomwolf]

i dont think converting CC to WC will work out too good...because of the unit selection limit of 12...
but i would like to see when its done...

 

[Mechanical Man]

boomwolf, you can se the red alert conversion (in maps section) which is actually a worse version of first command & conquer.

And it is not only limit of selection

 

[Chaos Overlord]

You guys would be suprised at the enjoyablility and accuracy of this. It is very good for a conversion between two games. And mechanicalman, are you talking about Illidan(evil)'s? If so, then wtf are you talking about? THey are all very good for what they are trying to be, but whatever, you are entitled to your own opinion....

 

[Mechanical Man]

I'm saying that the original game sucks, not illidanevil's conversion.

But it is true, that wc engine is limited and it is very hard to imitate the c&c engine

 

[Impac7]

lol doubleposter xD

Wow IllidianEvilX I follow every contemp/futuristic model and i havent seen these models in wc3search. These models rock, i may use them in the future when i finish my map with my own models, i guess you can do them not only 1:1 perfect but also fast. Pls say how much does it take for you to make 1 building? Cuz im going to make buildings too so Im just interested in the average time.

2nd question: do you use the skins from the game itself or from screenshots?

'War3 is not for futuristic' models bla bla,... nonsense

I have seen C&C not played it but these buildings are alos so nice! The thing is im going with EE nano buildings and would stick to them, but this can make a great campaign of C&C vs EE hahah ever thought of game vs game battles? My admirations for the good tech buildings you make, Illidain. Seeing you do C&C everything and so perfect, I wish there was someone to make EE and do buildings from there that perfect

 

[zt2211]

I'm saying that the original game sucks, not illidanevil's conversion.

But it is true, that wc engine is limited and it is very hard to imitate the c&c engine

It is relatively tough to imitate the CnC engine with WC3, but both Illidan's map and my map have good systems, if I do say so myself. In Illidan's RA conversion, you simply press Esc to access the structure build menu (which reminds me of the console version of the game), then you get a nice build aura so you can see exactly where you can place the building (speaking of which, I'm insanely jealous of that!). Also, he has some amazing trigger functions in there. In the CnC map, you build structures from the Conyard in the form of pre-packadged workers that are immobile. When you tell them to build the specific structure, it will be instantly placed on the terrain (if it is close enough to another one of your buildings). With regards to units, I used the exact unit values that Westwood implemented for all unit stats, superweapons included. I had to make very few balance changes after that, but the biggest exception was slowing down the artillery's projectile significantly (so it didn't instantly hit and kill infantry and had a chance to miss moving targets). Illidan has done a fine job of balancing his map's units. Idk if they use the same values as in RA, but it all works
Anyways, my point is that just because Wc3 has a different engine doesn't mean that it is impossible to make a good map based off of another RTS. With minimal balance changes and some triggers, you can actually make maps that are quite fun to play!

 

[Illidan(Evil)X]

Finished the harvester model.
Texture path is "Textures\C&C_ConYard.blp"

Pls say how much does it take for you to make 1 building?

This varies from model to model. Could take all from a few hours to a few days..

do you use the skins from the game itself or from screenshots?

I used alot of CnP before, now I'm making 'em from scratch.

Btw, I just started making this Hand of NOD model.

 

[Chaos Overlord]

Yay! Hand of Nod! Illidan, how did you do yuor build system? I can't figure out the little things that show how far you can go and that....:/? Also is the Conyard itself done yet? Anyways, can't wait to see this when its done, keep it up!

 

[zt2211]

Finished the harvester model.
Texture path is "Textures\C&C_ConYard.blp"
Btw, I just started making this Hand of NOD model.

Awesome

 

[boomwolf]

well...it does look pretty...
i wonder how will it come out...

anyhow...anyone knows what NoD stands for? cuz i really don't..

 

[Chaos Overlord]

I think Nod is just a name, not one of those... things like GDI, which is Global Defense Initiative.

 

[zt2211]

It's the Brotherhood of Nod (NOD for short), which is a supposedly ancient organization that is (in the first game) an evil group that participates in terrorism and fights the UN-funded GDI. Nod might have something to do with the land of Nod (wandering) that's in the Old Testament, since its leader is Kane (possibly referencing Cain, the first murderer in the Old Testament who was banished to wander in the land of Nod)

 

[Chaos Overlord]

Wow...zt knows his stuff.... but yeah, Nod is an ancient thing from whenever ago. How did you know? Don't they only reveal that in C&C3? I never used to watch the cins though so it may have been in one of the older ones.

 

[zt2211]

Actually, the CnC1 manual says that the Brotherhood of Nod is an ancient organization. The references to the Bible are speculation, but are unlikely to be coincidence...

 

[Chaos Overlord]

Umm I know you have a Tiberium modle already but I just saw this and maybe you should use it instead : http://www.wc3campaigns.net/showthread.php?t=93278 . I know Raodaozao made a modle already but these look really cool and a lot like Tiberium does now.In the third one, but that really doesnt matter since your making it off the first one, but whatever, I htought you may want to see it. Your call. =) BTW: hows the Hand coming Illidan?

 

[Illidan(Evil)X]

zt2211, I just got the hand of nod ready..
Only in-game textures used

 

[ragingspeedhorn]

Only in game? Then that's pretty nice!

 

[I)eath2u4me]

yo illidan, do you know me? you may have seen MY red alert maps. yours are very nice, but i was wondering if you could me a few things like, triggers with gathering ore, building within the vicinty of base, ect. some stuff like wat zt2211 uses and what you use.

if you want, heres my map for you to see: http://epicwar.com/maps/17788

and btw, im using some of your models, is that ok? im givin full credit to any models i use to you. i love your work. KEEP IT UP!

 

[Chaos Overlord]

Wow.... nice. That looks 100% like the old thing, good job. Omg wait... is that an earth the hand is holding? I never realized that. Illidan... maybe should you re-texture some of your old stuff? I realize that your busy and that I personally have no current use of them, but they look a lot less detailed up and compared to the new buildings. I am talking about the buildings like teh Airfield, just so you know. And the Refinery, maybe it should be a bit darker. OPh and one more thing: did you release your COnyard?

 

[Illidan(Evil)X]

yo illidan, do you know me?

nope

you may have seen MY red alert maps

yes

triggers with gathering ore

I don't have any triggers for gathering ore

building within the vicinty of base

just check if there are any buildings within range, if not, destroy the building

im using some of your models, is that ok?

yes

Illidan... maybe should you re-texture some of your old stuff?

nope

OPh and one more thing: did you release your COnyard?

I'm releasing it now:

Texture Path: Textures\C&C_ConYard.blp

Construction Yard Texture

 

[I)eath2u4me]

illidan, if you dont mind, can you PLEASE add all of your models to the froum? i would GREATLY apreciate it for my map.

 

[Illidan(Evil)X]

What models? the red alert ones?

 

[Arab4life]

triggers with gathering ore

Who need's trigger's?

Just make a reigon that spawn's hostile units (Ore) every now and then. And ore is targetted as a ward. The harvester only attack's wards. There you go, Harvester attacks Ore ward, you get bounty. Theres your cash.

 

[Mechanical Man]

Why wards? Then the harvesters have no need to return.

 

[PrinceofIce]

There ya go I used to enjoy watching the little flashing arrows when the harvester returned (lol).

 

[Massive_attack]

illidan.. he means any model you made for a custom map i think.
Personally i would rather have the sexy soviet tank skin you made for the red alert campaing your making... that looks so awesome. Other than that i would enjoy those riflemen for the same map alot as well. Either would please me greatly.

 

[I)eath2u4me]

yea illidan, i want all of your red alert models, i already gave you full credits for every single model i used by you. by the way...YOU, ARE THE BEST, MODEL MAKER, EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

(I wish i was as good as you)

 

[Massive_attack]

I wish could dream about being as good as him. But that is not the point of the thread people. And i think the best thing to ask for now would be more Tiberium dawn models. and whats tiberium dawn without its nod soldiers ! Thats what i would like : a nice nod soldier wearing modern combat armour and with gray and black camoflauge. That or the stylish nod buggy

 

[Chaos Overlord]

Or a temple of Nod..... or jsut a power plant. WOnder how that would look?

 

[zt2211]

Finished the harvester model.
Texture path is "Textures\C&C_ConYard.blp"
Btw, I just started making this Hand of NOD model.

zt2211, I just got the hand of nod ready..
Only in-game textures used

I'm releasing it now:

Texture Path: Textures\C&C_ConYard.blp

WOW I should have checked in earlier! Seeing three awesome models at once is almost too much! THANKS a million, Illidan!!!

 

[Massive_attack]

Hell i would accept any of those but i REALLY REALLY want one of the things i mentioned. I just wish illidan would verify if he will make any more.

 

[zt2211]

I wish could dream about being as good as him. But that is not the point of the thread people. And i think the best thing to ask for now would be more Tiberium dawn models. and whats tiberium dawn without its nod soldiers ! Thats what i would like : a nice nod soldier wearing modern combat armour and with gray and black camoflauge. That or the stylish nod buggy

I agree. WE WANT BUGGIES! WE WANT BUGGIES!

 

[Illidan(Evil)X]

yea illidan, i want all of your red alert models

I will release all my red alert model when I've released my own multiplayer map.

WE WANT BUGGIES! WE WANT BUGGIES!

orly?

Nod Buggy, Renegade style!

Texture Path: Textures\NodBuggy.blp

Happy now?

EDIT: Updated with collision sphere

 

[Massive_attack]

yess. Now i am happy

 

[Chaos Overlord]

SO now Illidan is going renegade on us? Lol that might not be a bad thing. There are certainly cool models in that game.

 

[Massive_attack]

A nod or GDI renegade soldier would make my day, Since the nod armour is still sexy even after all these years.

 

[I)eath2u4me]

LOLOLOLOLOL!!!!! anyway, Illidan, um, I was wondering if you could teach me exactly how to build near your base like you do. and how you use ore silos and stuff. ill give credit. just asking if you don't mind, can you help me. of course, my map wont be as good as yours, but it will still be good. Man, i still wish i was as good as you...

 

[Massive_attack]

Thats done with complicated triggers, so no i doubt illidan would bother. If he really wanted to he could just post it in the "spells" section.

 

[zt2211]

WE WANT BUGGIES!

orly?

Nod Buggy, Renegade style!

Texture Path: Textures\NodBuggy.blp

Happy now?

Yes. I'm VERY happy, even though my request was a mindless remark! Maybe I should make more of those

 

[Chaos Overlord]

We Want Flame Tanks!!!

 

[Massive_attack]

We want Flame tanks !!!! (...plz ?) OR Tick Tanks OR nod attack cycles Or Light tanks Or heavy tanks OR nod infantry OR a PowerPlant !

 

[SuPa-]

Wow... why don't you just say you need all of it
lol^^

 

[Massive_attack]

Because then the earth will die inside and everyone will turn emo and kill themselves. Plus Illidan doesn't like it.