Ability that does not Interrupt Orders

[Vinz]

Even toggle abilities like Immolation interrupt the unit's current orders when you manually order it through triggers. I'm searching for an active ability that does not interrupt the unit's current orders when activated through triggers. Thanks in advance.

 

[Nichilus]

You could try Defend ability.
But imo I think it may be impossible - all active abilities, even the toggle ones have orders so the game does know if you activated or deactivated the ability.

 

[Solu9]

Try Mana Shield.

 

[Vinz]

Toggles don't work. ;_;

I hope there is one really rather unique ability that doesn't stop ongoing stuff.

This is what I'm trying to do. I create a passive ability with a cooldown visible. When the passive is used, I replace it with an active and order the hero to use the active to put it on cooldown. However, doing so stops the hero's current orders.

Either an ability that does not interrupt orders when ordered through triggers, or another workaround for a passive with a cooldown.

 

[GreeN!X]

Berserk, Defend, Magical Defense, Mana Shield, Immolation, and Divine Shield.

That's everything, I think.

 

[Solu9]

Toggles don't work. ;_;

I hope there is one really rather unique ability that doesn't stop ongoing stuff.

That's weird. I tried to use Mana Shield while a unit was running and the unit just kept on running even though Mana Shield got activated.

Ah just realized the OP. Through triggers. Yup. Mana Shield also stops the ordered unit...

 

[IcemanBo]

• Unit - Issue Order ...

I think here the unit always gets a new order.^^

 

[Vinz]

So how do I create a passive ability w/ a cd? Thanks for the replies btw.

 

[IcemanBo]

Why a passive ability needs a cooldown? Could you maybe create just an active ability with no given effect in object editor, but with cooldown. And then you could trigger the effect by yourself.

 

[Vinz]

The ability reduces the damage the hero takes, but on a CD of 5 seconds. I trigger the effect already, I only need to solve the visual command bar problem.

 

[Chaosy]

wouldn't it be a better idea to work around that, I mean isn't it better to store the current order idea before the ability is cast and then order him to resume the order afterwards, I think it should be possible.

 

[Vinz]

I've thought of that, but I can't figure the cons. Are there any?

 

[IcemanBo]

I would try this: http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/...0-1-a-245414/?prev=d=list&r=20&u=TriggerHappy

Or very simple but still a solution would be to replace the passive ability with another passive ability + buff. And through the icon of the new passive ability user should definitly know that the unit has now damage reduction. After the 5 seconds you replace the ability by the old one again. (but no cooldown with this method...)

Or create an effect above the head of the unit.

 

[Vinz]

I just want the good old cd. :_;

So, no cons on using the order cache?

Is it only the queued orders con?
Do I have to cache them order queues or am I putting to much effort?
Mind burn$.

 

[Zeatherann]

Four Solutions, None Perfect...

1. Using Orb of Lightning - New you can make passives with cooldowns. Here is a tutorial explaining it. However, this only works for when the unit attacks.
2. Why don't you just use a modified resistant skin? It allows you to reduce damage, and give it a cooldown. I don't know if it'll show up as a cooldown in the command card though.
3. Storing the prior command and reissuing it would work in most cases except when the unit is ordered to patrol or channel an ability.
4. What you could do would be to have a dummy ability based off of Inner Fire to and issue the autocast order and them your unit will cast this when engaged by enemy units. Make sure the spell can only target self and then you'd have to remove the buff and duration of the ability. This would invoke the cooldown required. The AI might even be fast enough to auto cast it as soon as that ability replaces the passive, otherwise you'd have to figure out how much you want to give up to get a good looking icon. Another solution would be to have several abilities (all passive) where the cooldown effect is part of the icons of the ability and just replace them to give an illusion of the ability cooling down. The problem with this solution is that it'd require a dozen or so icons, which adds filesize to the map, and that if you are hovering over the ability to read it and it goes on cooldown, when it is replaced the new tooltip ability won't show up until the mouse is moved again.

 

[Vinz]

So command cache does not work with patrol?

And I cannot use Resistant Skin since I do %dmg reduction with Damage Engine.