2Player: Human04

[Moderator]

07:50, 24th Feb 2014
Hell_Master: Map approved with a rating of 4/5 (Recommended). See moderator's review for more information:

Review emerges!

I have played your 2P Campaign: Human 04 and I must say that it's looking fair as always. Now let's get straight to the main points, I see that you fixed all of the problems I stated on your previous maps of this namely the broken color tag and you provided me a reasonable explanation about the Axeman and Footman's stats.

Now time for the good points, I liked the optional quest where you rescued Bandits and take them as your units. It really gives some advantages to you over the Undead Force and the Cult. The Undead Force quest is also very awarding that it gives an orb item to the Captain Luc and Jaina which could be simple on the first look but is good actually on damage dealing and improves the battle capabilities of both Captain Luc and Jaina.

Overall, there's no bug and all's good but I cannot give a perfect rating due to that the map is still simple and no offense meant to the creator but is also easy to work on. Again, I do not mean to give insults or strike sharp insults on the map but it's not up for such a perfect rating. Maybe some interfaces improvements could actually make me raised this to 5/5 like redoing the tooltips and making them much more better and organized than how the blizzard does their tooltips and some changes on the tooltip descriptions for the gold, lumber, foods and etc. since this is the only change plausible for the map unless you'll take the risk of completely changing the map but removing the genuine feel in it.

Rated 4/5 and Approved.

 

[PlankingWolf]

I like how you renamed Kel'Thuzad into "Level 10 Epic Necromancer".

 

[Heinvers]

I agree with that. It felt boring to have him just as a normal necromancer.

 

[Yousef]

What about "Arch Necromancer"?

 

[Binsu]

Arch Necromancer of the Damned or Arch Necromancer of the Cult. Anyway, I'm reserving my review here.

 

[PlankingWolf]

I prefer Cult Necromancer than Epic Necromancer, 'cuz that's just for laughs.

 

[Pyraeus]

I prefer Cult Necromancer than Epic Necromancer, 'cuz that's just for laughs.

I didn't name him like that to make it funny. Believe it or not... well... read here - http://wowpedia.org/Epic_necromancer

 

[PlankingWolf]

I didn't name him like that to make it funny. Believe it or not... well... read here - http://wowpedia.org/Epic_necromancer

Nice one, Blizzard.

 

[Binsu]

Review emerges!

I have played your 2P Campaign: Human 04 and I must say that it's looking fair as always. Now let's get straight to the main points, I see that you fixed all of the problems I stated on your previous maps of this namely the broken color tag and you provided me a reasonable explanation about the Axeman and Footman's stats.

Now time for the good points, I liked the optional quest where you rescued Bandits and take them as your units. It really gives some advantages to you over the Undead Force and the Cult. The Undead Force quest is also very awarding that it gives an orb item to the Captain Luc and Jaina which could be simple on the first look but is good actually on damage dealing and improves the battle capabilities of both Captain Luc and Jaina.

Overall, there's no bug and all's good but I cannot give a perfect rating due to that the map is still simple and no offense meant to the creator but is also easy to work on. Again, I do not mean to give insults or strike sharp insults on the map but it's not up for such a perfect rating. Maybe some interfaces improvements could actually make me raised this to 5/5 like redoing the tooltips and making them much more better and organized than how the blizzard does their tooltips and some changes on the tooltip descriptions for the gold, lumber, foods and etc. since this is the only change plausible for the map unless you'll take the risk of completely changing the map but removing the genuine feel in it.

Rated 4/5 and Approved.

 

[Chen]

I'm a fan of these maps Pyraeus! I love this map!

 

[Heinvers]

@Hell Master, that's a risky move. Could do, but then it would feel like another game. Nevertheless good map Pyraeus.

 

[Cipri21]

Hello Everyone.I want play this missions but I start the mission and all I have is an image with 2 panda bears.What I do?Please help!

 

[Heinvers]

You must type in:
-easy
-normal
-hard

depends which mode you prefer from those 3.

 

[Cipri21]

Thank you very much!

 

[MrSN99]

Well, tickle my anus and call me Sam! This is great!

 

[Letgoit2]

can you make an alternate version after that human maps like what Jaina had to adventure on the way to Kalimdor, because an Orc map i dont know where you can change there something ?

 

[Lockheart]

I love your 2P Campaigns. On top there are not so many good 2 P RPGs out there.
Please keep up the good work. I appreciate it a lot.

If I find some time, I'm going to review it a bit more detailed.

 

[Verb8im]

Everything looks good so far, except none of the 3 enemy heroes are there, except Kel'Thuzad. I don't know if I have to get the confront Kel'Thuzad mission first in order to have them spawn or trigger something or what. But all 3 enemy bases don't have a hero

 

[Pyraeus]

Everything looks good so far, except none of the 3 enemy heroes are there, except Kel'Thuzad. I don't know if I have to get the confront Kel'Thuzad mission first in order to have them spawn or trigger something or what. But all 3 enemy bases don't have a hero

Now that is impossible. They do. An orc undead skeleton, a Wraith, and a Lich. I checked right now and it's the latest update. So I really don't know what to say. :O

 

[Verb8im]

Now that is impossible. They do. An orc undead skeleton, a Wraith, and a Lich. I checked right now and it's the latest update. So I really don't know what to say. :O

Hmmm, I downloaded these maps today, so it should be the latest update. Is there anything that I need to do to get them to show up, or are they there at the beginning of the mission? I'm playing by myself, so I put the computer slot on my team to open, then I take control of their players. Is it maybe because I have it as open instead of a computer taking control? I'll try it again, and see if anything I do works

Edit: Tried re-downloading the map, still no enemy heroes. Their teams are in the start menu, its just they're not actually in the map

 

[Pyraeus]

Hmmm, I downloaded these maps today, so it should be the latest update. Is there anything that I need to do to get them to show up, or are they there at the beginning of the mission? I'm playing by myself, so I put the computer slot on my team to open, then I take control of their players. Is it maybe because I have it as open instead of a computer taking control? I'll try it again, and see if anything I do works

Edit: Tried re-downloading the map, still no enemy heroes. Their teams are in the start menu, its just they're not actually in the map

Well, they are in the map, I assure you. Two look like regular units with a hero's glow and one is a normal hero, an original Lich. But I might tell you that sometimes Warcraft versions do screw up with multiplayer maps. Oldest versions tend to do that a lot, because many of the models were upgraded and bugs were fixed. It could be that, or it could be that you added a "check" mark when you set your map settings when it says "Automatic add hero for each team". - Make sure that's disabled. If it isn't that, I am not sure. Kel'Thuzad is activated after you talk to him in a cinematic and is fought as the final boss, the others behave as normal heroes. Spawning from an altar, attacking your base, etc.

NOTE: Which difficulty are you playing? Make note that if you play EASY difficulty, all enemy heroes except for Kel'Thuzad, are removed. If you play NORMAL, only one of them is present. If you play HARD, all are present. You are probably playing easy, so that's why they're all missing?

 

[Verb8im]

Well, they are in the map, I assure you. Two look like regular units with a hero's glow and one is a normal hero, an original Lich. But I might tell you that sometimes Warcraft versions do screw up with multiplayer maps. Oldest versions tend to do that a lot, because many of the models were upgraded and bugs were fixed. It could be that, or it could be that you added a "check" mark when you set your map settings when it says "Automatic add hero for each team". - Make sure that's disabled. If it isn't that, I am not sure. Kel'Thuzad is activated after you talk to him in a cinematic and is fought as the final boss, the others behave as normal heroes. Spawning from an altar, attacking your base, etc.

NOTE: Which difficulty are you playing? Make note that if you play EASY difficulty, all enemy heroes except for Kel'Thuzad, are removed. If you play NORMAL, only one of them is present. If you play HARD, all are present. You are probably playing easy, so that's why they're all missing?

Yep, that's the issue. I was playing on easy for all the maps. Thanks for making that note! It would've bugged me. I'm probably being way too much of a perfectionist, but could you add something like that in future maps, like if an event or a hero or something doesn't show up or happen because of difficulty settings and make note of it in the descriptions of future maps? That way (if someone's as anal as me and actually notices) people won't be confused.

 

[Pyraeus]

Yep, that's the issue. I was playing on easy for all the maps. Thanks for making that note! It would've bugged me. I'm probably being way too much of a perfectionist, but could you add something like that in future maps, like if an event or a hero or something doesn't show up or happen because of difficulty settings and make note of it in the descriptions of future maps? That way (if someone's as anal as me and actually notices) people won't be confused.

Will do, thank you for playing and testing.

 

[Verb8im]

Will do, thank you for playing and testing.

Tried the 2nd level again, and realized that was the same thing for the 2 enemy heroes on that map as well. Was playing on easy, therefore they weren't showing up. Why did you decide to do it like that in the human maps? In the prologue maps, there were enemy heroes on easy. Just curious

 

[Pyraeus]

Tried the 2nd level again, and realized that was the same thing for the 2 enemy heroes on that map as well. Was playing on easy, therefore they weren't showing up. Why did you decide to do it like that in the human maps? In the prologue maps, there were enemy heroes on easy. Just curious

I was kind of a beginning noob on prologue. So here am more advanced. xD