[2015+] General Discussion

[StoPCampinGn00b]

Hello there!

Today, -Kobas- lent me the responsibility in maintaining the group. I won't be making any major changes around here.

Anything that doesn't require a new discussion to be made or bumping an outdated one should go here.

PS. I recommend for members stay away from my pointless 2013-early 2014 posts in the group.​

 

[Binsu]

Well, first of all, congrats on being the maintainer now. I feel like the group has been inactive and maybe we could do something that could probably promote this group and of course, this group's goal or aim is to unite map reviewers here in Hive.

 

[StoPCampinGn00b]

Thanks man. I've already invited a few members. We can use the old recruitment thread here: http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/group.php?do=discuss&discussionid=1704&pp=10&page=2

 

[Shadow Fury]

I'm happy we have a new active maintainer. Congrats dude, I wish you good luck

 

[JCarrill0]

Grats and GL man!!

 

[Orcnet]

Awesome, congrats let's see if I still got my majestic clean-up mode powers again.

 

[StoPCampinGn00b]

Thanks guys,

 

[Daffa]

Congrats on being the new group leader

Awesome, congrats let's see if I still got my majestic clean-up mode powers again.

Well, can't wipe for a total wipeout

 

[StoPCampinGn00b]

Has there ever been zero pending maps? I want to do it some time, but I'm a little busy right now.

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I've been in the process in recruiting a few new members over the past three days (They had to ask answer a few questions and show their experience). The group will be revived soon, I promise it will be a splash

 

[Chaosy]

We're no longer using those old 'systems', right?

*stalked old group threads*

 

[Daffa]

@SCN, VK and Orcnet have done once respectively. Though I'm sure I remember the Orcnet one well. However I never see VK's one, as I recall, Orcnet says VK cleaned the section like after he was promoted as a Moderator.
I'm unsure if my memory still preserves well though, don't count on it.

 

[StoPCampinGn00b]

@Chaosy
They died out because many reviewers just did their own thing, which is fine. I don't think I'll ask for everyone to be a part of a custom reviewing system.

@Daffa
Mmm yeah, it sounds like people will notice and recently updated maps will get more attention If it happens again. The real challenge is keeping it under five maps every day

[This post was edited as it had numerous mistakes via typing mobile phone]

 

[sonofjay]

Congrats. May more maps occupy you from doing more productive things in RL.

 

[Daffa]

Everyone, looks like we start getting some "enemies" waiting.

 

[StoPCampinGn00b]

I've been sick the whole week, but I'll be on the battlefield in a few days.

 

[Vinz]

Congrats. May more maps occupy you from doing more productive things in RL.

Pretty much doing anything in Hive is the same though. Depends on the enjoyability.

 

[Daffa]

For the activity production for the group, we can use some random fun stuff, but that's unprofessional for us here in my honest opinion.

Anyway, I think we should be like the old days back in 2008 or so, where members of the group are very valued. Each of our reviews count quickly toward Map's Approval, and honestly, I wish Ralle has sort of Mini Mods that actually has powers to decide a map's fate, with at least 2/3 mini mods decides approval/rejection of a map automatically.

I can rarely reviews but I try to wreak havoc with what I still have, loss some skills due to long absence.

 

[StoPCampinGn00b]

I was actually going to discuss that with the rest of the staff, to bring mini-moderation back or at least a system to make map reviewers have more impact on the pending section.

 

[Chaosy]

That's indeed very interesting, but I am not sure if it will make the group more active.

Either way, I support the idea.

 

[Shadow Fury]

Sounds like a good idea to me. The Pending Maps Section is now 2 pages long (much better than last year when it was 8-9!!) but still I am pretty disappointed. Many of these pending maps have been reviewed by at least one reviewer and they are still as they, pending for no reason. Couldn't they be approved/rejected right now? There's nothing that can stop moderators from doing so otherwise this challenge of keeping the section below 5 is pretty impossible.

 

[Sylvie]

The pending section would be empty really soon if they approve that, but Daffa's idea is good, I aways see Mythic, Schallerz (Alleria avatar, don't know how to spell his name...) and Mechanical Man reviews, so set the map approval up to 3 mini mods could be nice.

 

[Vinz]

Still rooting for mini mods.

..Sclammerz, love. You can call him Vince.

 

[Orcnet]

Instead of applying a mini-moderation system that the higher mods would obviously void it out now due to um, reasons.

I suggest that all users who can express a criticism that would fit best for a moderator's comment for approving and rejecting maps must be all sent to all map moderators, may it be a comment or a private message, this is the most fast and most applicable decision I have ever experienced and acknowledged after being a map moderator for such a long time now.

Although not all of you will be exempted for your reviews by us map moderators, but it will take us time, decision, and proper handling that we can use all of your reviews as our aid in cleaning out the pending resources.

This have been done in previous events, and I am assured, it helped me a lot.

 

[Sclammerz]

@Mythic: You've revealed my hidden identity.
@Sylvie: S-C-L-A-M-M-E-R-Z

Anyway kinda agree to Daffa but Orcnet's suggestion is good too. Don't you think?

 

[StoPCampinGn00b]

Couldn't they be approved/rejected right now?

As Orcnet stated, it depends on how fitting the review can be used as the moderator comment honestly. I'm sorry I don't have clear guidelines :/

Anyway kinda agree to Daffa but Orcnet's suggestion is good too. Don't you think?

I like both as well. How about everyone post pending reviews in a thread that I (and Orcnet?) check often? That would do three positive things. 1. Increase the group's activity, 2. Allow maps reviewed be checked faster, and 3. it can be used as a reference to check all past reviews of yourself or others.

we can use some random fun stuff, but that's unprofessional for us here in my honest opinion.

Well, we can always have some events related to reviewing. Hmm.


Anyway, thank you all for joining the discussion. This is still unresolved but we're getting somewhere.

 

[Vinz]

I agree for posting reviews in a thread that is checked regularly.

 

[Chaosy]

That'd work.

 

[StoPCampinGn00b]

Any objection?

Oh, I'm the only map moderator at the moment. Orcnet needs to deal with life for a month and Kobas and HM aren't here at the moment (Orcnet moderated 10+ in a day after he planned to temporarily leave!). So you reviewers really are saving the pending section!

 

[Orcnet]

Today I will do my time cleansing every map stuck in the pending right now, you can all thank me later by posting cute anime girls at my profile soon. pun intended.

 

[StoPCampinGn00b]

Good news Orcnet

By tomorrow I will be creating the discussion (AKA thread) in the group to post reviews unless someone still wants to discuss something.

 

[Daffa]

I remember an old discussion : http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/group.php?do=discuss&group=&discussionid=1710
We can make similar one or use that for reports of just reviewed maps we did.

 

[Sylvie]

I like this, but maybe start a new one, that would be bad to make it here due the discussion we had here, and the other one have some members that are really inactive. So yeah, a new thread wiuld be better in my eyes.

 

[Vinz]

How about both? The old one would be used for displaying all of them in a list, then a new one would be for new reviews so that old ones won't be rechecked by mods mistakenly.

 

[Chaosy]

@daffa
that still seems somewhat bothersome. I think it's better to post each time you do a review rather than having a list for each person. Because it's very easy to miss an update from a person when he/she got 20+ reviews listed.

 

[StoPCampinGn00b]

@Chaosy this is the idea.

I'm on mobile right now, so I won't create it yet.

 

[Vinz]

@Chaosy that's why I suggest both. ;_; Because such updating of reviews don't qualify for an overall list either

 

[StoPCampinGn00b]

You may or may not create your own list on Daffa's thread.

 

[StoPCampinGn00b]

Also, if anyone feels the need to discuss something about reviewing maps, don't be shy to post some messages in the group or even create a new discussion with a specific topic. I want this place to be a helpful recourse for all reviewers

 

[StoPCampinGn00b]

This is pretty interesting: http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/apps.php?p=pendingstats

Can you guys see it or is it staff only?

 

[Vinz]

Interesting. I remember seeing it long ago but had no interest. It's probably going to help.

 

[Sylvie]

What is that?
Hive have so many secret places...

 

[Orcnet]

There are more secrets unimaginable under these closed doors my friend, and we have enlightened StoPCampinGn00b already. #justIlluminatiThings

 

[Vinz]

Closed doors being the ML? xD

 

[StoPCampinGn00b]

What's ML?

 

[Vinz]

Mod Lobby.

 

[Daffa]

I highly suspect that place is the closed doors

 

[Sclammerz]

Never saw that before. :O

 

[Vinz]

When maps are approved can the author gain about up to ~6 rep according to the rating? That way, melee maps, which take the shortest to make, get focused on.

 

[StoPCampinGn00b]

As for the reputation question: yes, sometimes they can. I don't quite understand your second statement. May you explain how giving reputation directly correlates to more melee maps to be focused on?

 

[Vinz]

I don't know, maybe people will make more melees?