«--<)) Newsflash ((>--» - Highschool shooting

[TheDivineBoss]

BREAKING NEWS - For the people who didn't heard, this afternoon Wednesday 7 November, a 18 year old student did a schoolmassacre on the Finish school in Tuusula. There are several deaths which are claimed to be the director and some other students. Eleven people are wounded in the hospital and one of them has a severe headinjury and is in critical status. The student opened fire in the lessons, a part of the students could flee through the windows. Police surrounded the buildings and after two hours they arrested him and waiting now for trail. Tuusala is about 50 kilometres from the capital Helsinki. the Jokela school counted 500 students.

Youtube -It seemed to be that before the day he posted a video on Youtube with the title Okela High School Massacre. He called himself Sturmgeist89 and had sympathy for dictators like Hitler and Stalin. The video was posted yesterday on Tuesday (6-11-07) and lasted not more then a minute.
It begins with a picture of a schoolbuilding and after that several pictures of someone holding a gun.

Worddocument - There's also on a closed(?) webserver where the shooter had placed several files containing his plans and details about the shooting. It was downloadable but we don't know if it's still available.

Gun - Sturmgeist89', who's real name Pekka-Eric Auvinen is, describes himself on his profilepage on Youtube as a cynical existentialist, antihuman humanist, antisocial socialdarwinist, realistic idealist and godlike atheist'. Except the video he also placed several videos where he tried out a gun, he also had a Catherine gedoopt (don't know the english word). He also placed several videos of WW2.

Natural Selection - On the page Sturmgeist89 also complains about 'the system' and the 'rotten community', and he complains about the 'failing of the system of natural selection.' ''Assuming you think I'm crazy, a lunatic or a psychopath or a criminell. The truth is that I'm a (...) dissident.'' Sturmgeist announced to even die for his future plans. ''I shall eliminate everyone who I think is worth, a discrais of human kind or a mistake of evolution.''

The teenage calls out people not to blame his friends or familiy of his actions, nor his music, the movies or games he played. ''This is my war, a man against the human kind, goverments and the weak mass of the world! No mercy for the 'foam' of Earth!''

Arrested - At the shooting in Tuusala, 50 kilometres from Helsinki, fell 7 deaths, where one of them the director was. At least 11 people got wounded. Some of them are in critical state. The shooter had been arrested after a couple of hours, what the media claimed.

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People post your feelings here please about the happenings off today, thank you.

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Media claimed that the shooter died. That's all

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[ragingspeedhorn]

Flavour and excitement.

 

[Kitabatake]

The kill count is currently 8 and the killer shot himself in the head but isn't confirmed to be dead yet if I understood correctly...

Worddocument - There's also on a closed(?) webserver where the shooter had placed several files containing his plans and details about the shooting. It was downloadable but we don't know if it's still available.

www.kimmo.org/jokela
http://www.kimmo.org/jokela/Pekka-Eric_Auvinen___Jokela_High_School_Massacre.zip

It's still available but the killers youtube videos and account has been closed

 

[TheDivineBoss]

Yeah just wanted to post that...

8 dead now and the shootist tried to shoot himself in the head but still is alive but in critical state people.

 

[Gilles]

Pretty scary stuff. I live in a huge drug area, I hope that never happens here. There was a small gang that tried to shoot some kid because he said shit about them. They didn't know his dad was a Hells Angel. The whole gang is going to get destroyed by the Hells Angels.

 

[Kimbo]

I wish something like that would happen at this school, would be very interesting, and yes, I'm serious.

 

[TheDivineBoss]

Tell me about it. I'm living in North-Holland in the Netherlands, a province and where the most Dutchmans drink booze in whole NL, on a 150 year old high school (off course they build some new parts on it you silly) where nothing happens! No guns, weapons, harddrugs but only softdrugs (weed ) and scooters. -.- Cops show up once a week like they always do and erh that's it. :S Maybe a small brawl of a minute between two firstyearers or a big pose where the guys from the other school don't show up But erh nothing else. I want to happen something at my school to except a massive schoolshooting where a lot of people die. No Dutch people are too chill for that BUT I WANT TO SEE/EXPERIENCE SOMETHING EXITING meh <_<

 

[Pitakebab]

The shooter died of his injuries about 2 hours ago... Damn it! It would have been better to stay in jail for rest of his life...

 

[TheDivineBoss]

Ah ok, thanks for the intel.

Shooter died people 2 hours ago.

 

[Jacek]

Die, die, die!!!

 

[brad.dude03]

That's the general idea.

 

[Kjiverx]

dude had no idea what eugenics really is, did he? there's a reason that fascism and Nazism fell. it's a pity he died, he should have been hanged.

 

[Cheeder]

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I wish something like that would happen at this school, would be very interesting, and yes, I'm serious.

Why not join a war so you can kill for yourself if you're so blood-thirsty. Why wish someone else to die when you can do it yourself?

There's no difference between your comment and me saying that i wish he killed your family.

Violence is no solution for peace. Hate begets hate.

"The meek shall inherit the earth"

 

[Kimbo]

Why not join a war so you can kill for yourself if you're so blood-thirsty. Why wish someone else to die when you can do it yourself?

There's no difference between your comment and me saying that i wish he killed your family.

Violence is no solution for peace. Hate begets hate.

"The meek shall inherit the earth"

OH NOESS WEREWULFFF SOUNDS LIKE A NAZI EVEN THoUGH SHE ISNT

honestly, you clearly dont understand me.
Nor do i CARE about "DONT HATE! ITS EVIL!! (but i hate hate LAWLLSLSLSLS)" or "PEACE NOT WARRR" or if my brother or whoever got killed or shit, i would find that very interesting and would love for people at my school to die.
And join a war? too much hassle, id rather sit back, draw and shit and be on a farm with many animals.
Infact, alot of peoples relations are in the war, take Sansui for one and some other dude whoes name i forgot.

 

[Cheeder]

What do you mean i don't understand you? I'm not pegging you to be some radical idealist. But you did just go on to confirm your relation to my reply.. You want people dead and seem just a little obsessed with people dying. I suggested you do it yourself instead of wishing for others to do the work for you.

You wouldn't care if someone killed your family, but i bet you'd care if they destroyed your computer. haha.. that's the sad part of you that i feel pity for.

And as for the double post. With topics like this one and "What pisses you off", who cares. If i wanted to hear children act like children i'd go to an elementary school. And if i wanted to hear political news i wouldn't have thrown out my TV.

 

[Kimbo]

Now you are just being blant "Lets take this from a political view".

and no shit sherlock, i love my computer <3

Infact, i think im obsessed with it more than anything else o.0

 

[TheDivineBoss]

Now you are just being blant "Lets take this from a political view".

and no shit sherlock, i love my computer <3

Infact, i think im obsessed with it more than anything else o.0

''Lifts a eyebrow at her.''

 

[Craka_J]

Another school massacre? These things are beginning to be a common thing now :|
~Craka_J

 

[brad.dude03]

Every couple months it seems someone is going into a school to shoot some people up

 

[GST_Nemisis]

Infact, i think im obsessed with it more than anything else o.0

i question that, not unless you can get alot of things from ur computer.

 

[Jualin]

As it is, I think, and that I stress, this is monkey see, monkey do.

Further, I have doubt that they (school shooters) have reached any great harmony of truth and/or ideology that justifies murder. I think they just want to shoot s*** up, merely donning the garments of their chosen rhetorical body to make the killings appear just in their own eyes. After the fact, I think they find their rhetoric hollow, their actions unbearable, and a bullet sorely needed between their own eyes.

 

[Craka_J]

Wanna hear why kids never start school shootings in New York City schools? Because all of the kids have guns, so if you're one guy with a pistol, you're outnumbered. Even the security guards are usually out-numbered, and the High School I went to had about twenty-fourty security guards lol.
Gangs ftw, eh?
~Craka_J

 

[Kimbo]

Oh... i get many things from my computer that don't have horrible consequences or too harsh ones, well...some o.0

anyway, I hear of no school shootins down in the aussie land besides one in some town starting with Y or W, the shooter obviously died in that one and i think 3 people dead and 10 injured I thinks.

 

[SimonKurciski]

My greatest fear when something like this happens is that some numbskull will leap up and say, "Ah-HA! He killed people because he was an atheist! If you don't have a God to believe in, you'll end up shoting people! Now let's hold prayers nine times a day at school!"

 

[brad.dude03]

Yeah, that would definetly suck, and they've tried that too, especially after Collumbine.

Anywho, ther have been no shoot-'em-up's in Canada, with the exception of that one at that college in Quebec... which is French territory so it doesn't really count....

 

[TheDivineBoss]

All those schoolshootings today are ripoffs from the Columbine school. They all thought those guys where their examples, you know. You can be mad at a teacher for getting a F at something but it doesn't mean you have to put few lead bullets in her head. God this world sucks!

 

[WILL THE ALMIGHTY]

Yeah, that would definetly suck, and they've tried that too, especially after Collumbine.

Anywho, ther have been no shoot-'em-up's in Canada, with the exception of that one at that college in Quebec... which is French territory so it doesn't really count....

It was an english college. Most, if not all weren't even French speakers.

Seriously, what kind of bastard says these kind of things?

 

[Super-Sheep]

First time when something like that happens in Finland, (I live there!) but it wasn't in my school.

 

[brad.dude03]

It was an english college. Most, if not all weren't even French speakers.

Seriously, what kind of bastard says these kind of things?

The real bastards are the ones doing the shooting, bub

 

[Hakeem]

Well, I was just going to reply to the story in general, but you said this:

God this world sucks!

Personally, I'm surprised that pessimists don't see the world as a better place.
If you start to think like a pessimist, then you should realize that people could be a LOT worse. Just walk through the world (or drive, if you're lazy) and look at all the opportunity that people have to do bad things.
Consider yourself lucky that people are more good than bad. (Or you can blame the fact that it was evolutionarily more likely.)

 

[Kitabatake]

Further, I have doubt that they (school shooters) have reached any great harmony of truth and/or ideology that justifies murder. I think they just want to shoot s*** up, merely donning the garments of their chosen rhetorical body to make the killings appear just in their own eyes.

Yeah the shooter did think that he was doing "the right thing"...

Natural Selector’s Manifesto

How Did Natural Selection Turn Into Idiocratic Selection?

Today the process of natural selection is totally misguided. It has reversed. Human race has been devolving very long time for now. Retarded and stupid , weak-minded people are reproducing more and faster than the intelligent, strong-minded people. Laws protect the retarded majority which selects the leaders of society. Modern human race has not only betrayed its ancestors, but the future generations too. Homo Sapiens, HAH! It is more like a Homo Idioticus to me! When I look at people I see every day in society, school and everywhere... I can’t say I belong to same race as the lousy, miserable, arrogant, selfish human race! No! I have evolved one step above!

Naturality has been discriminated through religions, ideologies, laws and other mass delusion systems. Individual, who is going through his/hers natural power process and trying to live naturally, but is being told that the way he acts or thinks is wrong and stupid, will usually have some reactions which might be considered as "psychological disorders" by the establishment. In reality they are just natural reactions to the disruption of natural power process. They will have some of the following (depending on individual's personality): feelings of inferiority / superiority, hostility, aggression, frustration, depression, self-hatred / hatred towards other people, suicidal / homicidal thought etc... and it is completely normal.

Humans are just a species among other animals and world does not exist only for humans. Death and killing is not a tragedy, it happens in nature all the time between all species. Not all human lives are important or worth saving. Only superior (intelligent, self-aware, strong-minded) individuals should survive while inferior (stupid, retarded, weak-minded masses) should perish.

There is also another solution to the problem: stupid people as slaves and intelligent people as free. What I mean is that they who have free minds, are capable of intelligent existential and philosophical thinking and know what justice is, should be free and rulers... and the robotic masses, they can be slaves since they do not mind it now either and because their minds are on so retarded level. The gangsters that now rule societies, would of course get what they deserve.

Of course there is a final solution too: death of entire human race. It would solve every problem of humanity. The faster human race is wiped out from this planet, the better... no one should be left alive. I have no mercy for the scum of earth, the pathetic human race.

Collective Deindividualization: Totalitarianism & Delusions Of Democracy

Collective deindividualization is a phenomenon where individual will be trained as part of the mindless herd controlled by state, corporation, church or some other organization, group, ideology, religion or mass delusion system and adopt it's rules, morality and codes of conduct. This phenomenon has been familiar in all despotic, authoritarian, totalitarian, monarchist, communist, socialist, nazi, fascist and religious societies troughout history. Also, the modern western democratic republics have the same phenomenon. It is just done so that people will think they are free and don't realize they are being enslaved. Majority of people in society are weak-minded and ignorant retards, masses that act like programmed robots and accept voluntarily slavery. But not me! I am self-aware and realize what is going on in society! I have a free mind! And I choose to be free rather than live like a robot or slave. You can say I have a “god complex”, sure... then you have a “group complex”! Compared to you retarded masses, I am actually godlike.

Totalitarian governments rule people through education system, consumerism, mass media, monopoly on the legitimate use of physical force (police, military) and laws discriminating people who think differently than the majority. Democracy... you think democracy means freedom and justice? You are wrong. Democracy is a dictatorship of the moral majority... and the majority is manipulated and ruled by the state mafia. Modern western democracy has nothing to do with freedom or justice; it is totalitarian and corrupted system. Laws are made over the heads of the people and people are being brainwashed to support the system and connected to the institutional structures immediately after their birth. Societies are being ruled by manipulative and charismatic politicians who only care about the interests of majority, and who do not base their decisions on reason but emotions and feelings of the masses. These masses let the authorities of state to make all the important decisions for them. The masses will get an education, they study, get a job, go to work and vote in elections. They think they are free and don’t criticise or question the system. They have become robots. It is like a constructed mechanism in mind, that leaves little choice for an individual to think, talk and act independently.

Three Kinds Of Humans

There are three kinds of human personality types in this world:
individualistic human (3% of the world population)
manipulative human (3% of the world population)
mass human (94% of the world population)

#1 & #2 type of personalities are intelligent, creative and self-aware. They have chosen bit different paths paths. #3 type of personalities are less intelligent and less creative, weak-minded people controlled by #2 type of personalities. The percentages are only estimations though but are based on Gaussian distribution and history of human race and how humans have organized into societies. And this is the way it has always been ever since humans started to organize into communities.

Another way how to divide people is bit different but is based on the same facts, human nature and history. The division is based on the level of intelligence and quality of mentality:
intelligent (3% of the world population)
slightly retarded, so called “normal people” or “robots” (94% of the world population)
highly retarded, “vegetables” (3% of the world population)

Total War Against Humanity

Hate, Im so full of it and I love it. That is one thing I really love. Some time ago, I used to believe in humanity and I wanted to live a long and happy life... but then I woke up. I started to think deeper and realized things. But it was not easy to become existential... knowing as much as I know has made me unhappy, frustrated and angry. I just can’t be happy in the society or the reality I live. Due to long process of existential thinking, observing the society I live and some other things happened in my life... I have come to the point where I feel nothing but hate against humanity and human race.

Life is just a meaningless coincidence... result of long process of evolution and many several factors, causes and effects. However, life is also something that an individual wants and determines it to be. And I'm the dictator and god of my own life. And me, I have chosen my way. I am prepared to fight and die for my cause. I, as a natural selector, will eliminate all who I see unfit, disgraces of human race and failures of natural selection.

You might ask yourselves, why did I do this and what do I want. Well, most of you are too arrogant and closed-minded to understand... You will proprably say me that I am “insane”, “crazy”, “psychopath”, “criminal” or crap like that. No, the truth is that I am just an animl, a human, an individual, a dissident.

I have had enough. I don’t want to be part of this fucked up society. Like some other wise people have said in the past, human race is not worth fighting for or saving... only worth killing. But... When my enemies will run and hide in fear when mentioning my name... When the gangsters of the corrupted governments have been shot in the streets... When the rule of idioracy and the democratic system has been replaced with justice... When intelligent people are finally free and rule the society instead of the idiocratic rule of majority... In that great day of deliverance, you will know what I want.

Long live the revolution... revolution against the system, which enslaves not only the majority of weak-minded masses but also the small minority of strong-minded and intelligent individuals! If we want to live in a different world, we must act. We must rise against the enslaving, corrupted and totalitarian regimes and overthrow the tyrants, gangsters and the rule of idiocracy. I can’t alone change much but hopefully my actions will inspire all the intelligent people of the world and start some sort of revolution against the current systems. The system discriminating naturality and justice, is my enemy. The people living in the world of delusion and supporting this system are my enemies.

I am ready to die for a cause I know is right, just and true... even if I would lose or the battle would be only remembered as evil... I will rather fight and die than live a long and unhappy life.

And remember that this is my war, my ideas and my plans. Don’t blame anyone else for my actions than myself. Don’t blame my parents or my friends. I told nobody about my plans and I always kept them inside my mind only. Don’t blame the movies I see, the music I hear, the games I play or the books I read. No, they had nothing to do with this. This is my war: one man war against humanity, governments and weak-minded masses of the world! No mercy for the scum of the earth! HUMANITY IS OVERRATED! It's time to put NATURAL SELECTION & SURVIVAL OF THE FITTEST back on tracks!

Justice renders to everyone his due.

- Pekka-Eric Auvinen (aka NaturalSelector89, Natural Selector, Sturmgeist89 and Sturmgeist).
I also use pseydonym Eric von Auffoin internationally.

That's his reason why he went on the rampage I guess

 

[Shados]

Well, I was just going to reply to the story in general, but you said this:

Personally, I'm surprised that pessimists don't see the world as a better place.
If you start to think like a pessimist, then you should realize that people could be a LOT worse. Just walk through the world (or drive, if you're lazy) and look at all the opportunity that people have to do bad things.
Consider yourself lucky that people are more good than bad. (Or you can blame the fact that it was evolutionarily more likely.)

The world could be alot better, too.

The guy is an idiot. Besides the flaws in his logic, if he really wanted to do some damage, he should've made himself expensive, rather than cheaply throwing his life away.

-*meow*

 

[TheDivineBoss]

It was a anti-human, cynical dissident or something.

cynical existentialist, antihuman humanist, antisocial socialdarwinist, realistic idealist and godlike atheist

''The truth is that I'm a (...) dissident.''

Doc changed my post and I didn't even double posted :/

 

[Dr00d]

I bet you guys will never have guessed this one from me, but...

[broke=I've though about doing it. >=/]Guess what?[/broke]

 

[brad.dude03]

Why would you want to go into your school and shoot a bunch of people and attempt to take your own life?

How fucking stupid of a thought is that.

 

[Dr00d]

Well, I wouldn't end my life. I'd let the cops get me after I've had my fun, then plea insane in court. Go to an instatution for a few years and get out.

 

[brad.dude03]

They'd book you for a lot longer than 'a few years' and then you'd have to live the rest of your life with innocent blood spilt on your hands.

 

[Kimbo]

"I hate Mondays...
I hate Mondays......
Such a horrible day Monday is....
Those happy whispers and fake smiles, time to take the barrel of truth and turn those frown the right way.....
I hate Mondays..."
Based from a girl who hated Mondays, so she shot up her school (didn't kill herself)

And im sure brad would do it if he was forced to go to a french school.

 

[TheDivineBoss]

That one is welcome in the What Pisses you off?-thread to you know, if you hate Mondays. I don't like Mondays neither (school -.-).

 

[Cheeder]

Well, I wouldn't end my life. I'd let the cops get me after I've had my fun, then plea insane in court. Go to an instatution for a few years and get out.

You can foregt about your plan now! haha. That's X-counts of 1st-degree.

And why would you want to anyway? Even by admitting it it shows you are weak-minded to let such stupid bs get to you in the first place.

You are a PayPal donor, you must have a job, you have opportunity going for you.. The opportunity to kill people and spend the rest of your life regretting it either in prison OR a wacky-farm doesn't sound too good.
It's like robbing a store and killing a clerk over $52 dollars. Just not worth it.

I'm not trying to talk to you like a child, i'm trying to talk to you like you're an idiot! haha.
Just... use your good thinking, in all your situational ponderings.

 

[Dr00d]

I planned it about 3 years ago anyway. =p Theres like a < 1% chance I would now.

 

[Mechanical Man]

Hmm, more that 1% procent. This could be also 100%

 

[WILL THE ALMIGHTY]

I planned it about 3 years ago anyway. =p Theres like a < 1% chance I would now.

Stop being a douche, you probably don't even have a gun and neither are you stupid enough to shoot.

Now stop bragging about it.

EDIT: I am so mean.

 

[TheDivineBoss]

Uh ever saw his pics where he used a gun Willy? I know a shooting range somewhere in town where my school is hehe, maybe I can buy a piece or two too.

No EDIT hey: I am meaner.

 

[donut3.5]

you probably don't even have a gun

WILL, I'd like you to meet dr00d. Apparently you've never met him before.
Dr00d here is a gun-ophile. I wouldn't be surprised if he did the nasty nasty with some of his rifles.
Point being, he has MANY guns. But I agree, don't think he's stupid enough to go shoot people.
--donut3.5--

 

[TheDivineBoss]

Dr00d here is a gun-ophile

Nice word which was made up in one minute. Awasome. /gives a cookie.

Sorry people no «--<)) Newsflash ((>--»'s today but go play a game on the web which gives 10 ricethingies each try they got 1 billion right now.

EDIT: Here's the link to the FreeRice site.

 

[Dr00d]

Thats my new title. =D