Warriors Of Freedom 0.93h

[Moderator]

MasterHaosis: Hey man yes map isnot finished, but it is playable and nice piece of work here. I like your custom abilities.
[ ] Map scanned of viruses
[ ] Map doesnot crash WC3 as far I can see
[ ] Map is yours/seems no edited from other author
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[Zaljinzoo]

Good....not complete but still pretty good 4.9/5

 

[Pszczolek]

Thx, I'm glad you like it

 

[Ravager]

Good....not complete but still pretty good 4.9/5

I agree, It could use some work but overall it's excellent!

 

[Pszczolek]

I'll update my map as soon as I finish my exams, or sooner, so not longer than 2 weeks. Probably Taunt spells (these from Dwarf and Earth Elemental) fix, some balances, and 1-2 new heroes. I'll maybe add some item recipes and secrets.


19.06.08
Map updated to 0.88.


EDIT
Comments plz

 

[dragor89]

It Is Awsome Very Good!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Pszczolek]

Updated map to 0.89. This update includes new hero: Shaman. Comments and rate plz

EDIT
I just found a bug, which I had to fix immediately, and updated to 0.89a.

 

[cHeRoL]

|-| You can put this map in english
|-| Slow Thrall movement speed (10-20%)

|+| Rest of map is very good.

Can you give me some of your spells ^_^?

 

[pyropk95]

very fun game...good how you update it everytime...and the changes you made..but could you plz add a description story/game objectives either one or both =) (KEEP IT UP)

*UPDATE* nvm it says Warchaser like map in game ....game goes to 4/5, although this is very similiar in terrain to another warchasers map ive seen (not that you stole it)

 

[kryptosuper]

nicely developed game n nice custom abilities its good. The part about not finished ure gonna make 0.90a?

 

[EmawWyvern]

Pretty good I suppose.

 

[Pszczolek]

Thx for replies!

@cHeRoL: do you mean quest log? Yeah, I forgot about it, but it will be fully translated in next version. And the map is unprotected, so you can look at custom spells, but some of the triggers are in polish, so if you pm me I can tell you what are they for (of course give me a credit if you use any of my spells ^^). I will fix Thrall's speed.

@pyropk95: I will keep updating, fully translated quest log in next version.

@kryptosuper: I think the full version will be 1.00 (12 heroes, more items, secrets, maybe more bosses). After I finish it, I'll probably work on sequel

 

[00Nobody]

Pretty good. I gotta say I like it. However, whenever I host it and someone chooses the Troll (I have watched, and it invariably happens for me), I crash. No matter who chooses the Troll, I crash. Not anyone else though, just me. Not sure what causes this. Could you look into this?

 

[chanwk3]

tis' a real nice map, fast-paced and interesting and everything. Just gotta work on the balance of some things. For example, once a troll gets beefed up, it's pretty much right click and win. And it really doesn't take much to get a troll that strong. Also, the priest's summons and nuke are ridiculously powerful for a support character. Wizard is weak as heck and one of his spells even damages allies. The golem, given how big the cooldown is and the manacost, is completely useless.

There are also some bugs like items not combining properly, but other than balance and bugs, very nice map.

 

[Pszczolek]

However, whenever I host it and someone chooses the Troll (I have watched, and it invariably happens for me), I crash. No matter who chooses the Troll, I crash. Not anyone else though, just me. Not sure what causes this. Could you look into this?

I don't know what it could be. I'll check if there is anything that may cause it. Maybe it's something with your WC3.

tis' a real nice map, fast-paced and interesting and everything. Just gotta work on the balance of some things. For example, once a troll gets beefed up, it's pretty much right click and win. And it really doesn't take much to get a troll that strong. Also, the priest's summons and nuke are ridiculously powerful for a support character. Wizard is weak as heck and one of his spells even damages allies. The golem, given how big the cooldown is and the manacost, is completely useless.

There are also some bugs like items not combining properly, but other than balance and bugs, very nice map.

I'll work on balance issues and bugs, every version I make some, but it's hard to catch them all only by myself, so please post them like you did.

the priest's summons and nuke are ridiculously powerful for a support character.

You mean the damage% or the blind effect from priest is too powerful? And the summons can easely got killed by AoE.

Wizard is weak as heck and one of his spells even damages allies. The golem, given how big the cooldown is and the manacost, is completely useless.

Wizard is powerful for AoE, you can deal much damage with Flamestrike + Nova combo. But, yeah, maybe shouldn't deal damage to allies. Golem is rather supposed to be summoned before fight, but I'll powerup him slightly.


EDIT
Version 0.90 uploaded, see changelog.

 

[Pszczolek]

Someone rated my map 1 without any comment (was 4 (3 votes) before, is 3.25 (4 votes)) Is he jelous or what?

 

[Pszczolek]

There was long time no update, but I resumed working on my map and uploaded newest version 0.91. See changelog for info.

Please, leave some comments.

 

[suicune]

Its a good map... and add more doodads if you could... 5/5

 

[APproject]

1. I guess you meant Hardcore, not Hardore. This is on the difficulty levels selection dialog window.
2. At the start, cinematic mode turns on and immediately turns off. Could you explain me what is it about? I suggest you to remove it.
3. Terrain seems badly done. It's out of doodads and it contains with massive lack of it.

 

[Pszczolek]

@APproject
1. Yes I meant Hardcore, must have missed a letter.
2. There were a cinematic before, but I'm reworking it and it's disabled, it will be ready in next version.
3. I'm not good at making terrain, I will find good terrainer who can improve it.

Thx for replies!

 

[Zanmore]

Nice map although terrain could look much better 4/5.

 

[Pszczolek]

Thanks for replies, I will find someone to improve terrain (or I'll try to get better in it myself). Please say what you think about rest of the map (gameplay general, heroes, balance, etc.).

 

[Pszczolek]

Map isn't compatible with 1.24+ patch. When I update it, it will be compatible, but first I need to find a way to fix (WE shows about 8k errors -.-).

 

[Pszczolek]

I have fixed handle vars, but I'm also introducing new content (also terrain improved) and doing some balances. Version 0.92 will be soon uploaded, notice that 0.91 here is old and not compatible with 1.24 patch.

 

[Pszczolek]

Finally updated to 0.92! I worked really hard to improve the map and balance it, thought I plan to add much more into the map

I think from now I will update once a while until I achieve everything what I planned to do in this map

I would gladly hear some feedback, I also hope you will enjoy this update

 

[delyte]

bug... i play with my friend.. we got ghost key.... but when we pick up it.. key dispeared and we cant now pass the gates.. it ask for key... what to do?

p.s. npw we try the second time... and again key dispears when we try pick it... wtf??? how should we than open gates????? help please

p.s.s. i tried again and again key dispear when i try pick it up and gates cant open.. what to do??????????????

 

[Pszczolek]

You say key disappears? I'm gonna check triggers, and fix asap.

EDIT: Found what caused this bug, I unintentionally caused it when fixing some other thing. Uploaded fixed version 0.92b. Thx for you patience +rep

 

[delyte]

yay ;D

p.s. god damn... me and my friend... almost done map.... i die at mobs last... and my friend not.. he got to bos.. and died too.... so we almost done map only 2 of us i cant wait till full version


i think i found another bug.... when i buyed holy knight sword.... he have an active skill u can get +5str for 15 sec stack 6 times... but when i click it.. nothing happened.... ;/

 

[Pszczolek]

i think i found another bug.... when i buyed holy knight sword.... he have an active skill u can get +5str for 15 sec stack 6 times... but when i click it.. nothing happened.... ;/

Hand of Justice ability is not an active, it's passive - it gives you stacking strength bonus when you use Hurt Evil spell (you had to read description wrong ).

 

[sanityslayer42]

brilliant job at it xD .. almost flawless

 

[delyte]

aww sory.... my english is kinda bad ;/

 

[realkitcat]

good job,awesome map!
I solo it with every 8 heros and win the final boss.Some heros need a lot of patience though.
What's left 2 me is the extra shop when I light up the whole map.How to get there,maybe the author u can give me a little hint

 

[Pszczolek]

Thanks for comment, I'm glad that you like my map
About the one secret shop, it's not possible to get there - this shop was secret from some very old version of this map, I just didn't remove it

 

[delyte]

its not posible to solo this map... lol.... its imposible.. me and my friend even cant done it... so how didu solo it??? ar4er cant kill boss solo... my friend tried he died lol.... so where is the catch? how did u done solo with all heroes

 

[Pszczolek]

Well, the catch is that the map scales with number of players - if you play solo, everything will be weaker, if you play with more players everything will be stronger, so it's about as much difficult to play with less and with more players.If you play with a friend and one of you die, it's not the same like if you started the game solo, because everything will be balanced around 2 players.

Also not every 2 hero lineup will be able to win - probably the best possible lineup in 2 player is Priest + Footmen Captain (Footie takes both Strength and Agility books/items), also any combination of healer + tank should do. I still recommend playing as 3 or more people, it's easier to make good lineup (usually 1 Strength, 1 Agility and 1 Intelligence hero) and it's more fun to play as well.

 

[delyte]

ye but in this days.. is not many peoples who like rpg.... in eurobattle.net theres almost noowon who host rpg... only me Lmao i was tank/dmg/healer class holy knight and friend was ar4er

 

[realkitcat]

its not posible to solo this map... lol.... its imposible.. me and my friend even cant done it... so how didu solo it??? ar4er cant kill boss solo... my friend tried he died lol.... so where is the catch? how did u done solo with all heroes

imposible is nothing

isaid some heros need huge patience in solo game.difficulty level i chose is surely 'hardcore'

and that's the points below:
1.before the first 2 small boss battles,buy enough hp potion their hp recover form is really nasty= =|||

2.u need to farm enough gold at every monster spawn point.every character i farm at least 10000+gold during the whole game.this is especially easy for mage/draven with their aoe spell.these gold is prepared for the attribute point add books sold at hell bookshelf.from it u get a 40+- main attribute point bonus which means 40+- dmg.

3.the item 'illusion wand' ---it will deal 50%dmg of the hero!---3 charges.
it's the key item 4 last boss.hunter and troll will need at least 3 charges and the other classes need 6 charges more.farm it out with patience.(the only hero needn't this item is priest=.=|||it looks like a support class but actually deals the most dps this is really imba.

3.int class hero can buy the 'ancane wand' which deals 400+3*int dmg to make a combo

4.s/l in a rpg game,common sense


this is really a nice map so i was glad to get all the 'impossibles' into possible.thx the author again!

btw,do u guys think it's impossible 2 solo the original 'warchaser' cuz the insane tank level too? ^o^

 

[Pszczolek]

@realkitcat: Thanks for input! I see you are good player, good job beating map on "Hardcore!" with every hero What do you think causes priest to be that good at dps? Is it how much damage Holy Light does, his summons, or both? Or is it just that he can't die, so he deals constant damage? He has extremely high survivability with his Holy Shield and is invaluable supporter when playing as group. I even wondered if he isn't too good, but wasn't sure what makes him OP. Thought I rather balance around multiplayer.

Also I still encourage to try with at least 2 more people . Everything is stronger when there are more players, also bosses have more abilities (usually some AoE) and other abilities are stronger (ofc more hp and damage too), so bossfights are more dynamic (Lolwut! Where's 80% of my hp?! ). Although total noobs are pain in the ass when playing in group (and I don't mean newbies, but people who can't teamplay nor read item descriptions, and just act stupid).

And if it comes to Warchasers, I think it's impossible to make it through tank level solo, but maybe I'm wrong And well, imo Warchasers were most balanced for 2 players, as 3-4 it was just easy, and solo it was hard, and I think, possible only with some heroes (Optimus Primo comes to mind), but except tank level.

 

[realkitcat]

@realkitcat: Thanks for input! I see you are good player, good job beating map on "Hardcore!" with every hero What do you think causes priest to be that good at dps? Is it how much damage Holy Light does, his summons, or both? Or is it just that he can't die, so he deals constant damage? He has extremely high survivability with his Holy Shield and is invaluable supporter when playing as group. I even wondered if he isn't too good, but wasn't sure what makes him OP. Thought I rather balance around multiplayer.

Also I still encourage to try with at least 2 more people . Everything is stronger when there are more players, also bosses have more abilities (usually some AoE) and other abilities are stronger (ofc more hp and damage too), so bossfights are more dynamic (Lolwut! Where's 80% of my hp?! ). Although total noobs are pain in the ass when playing in group (and I don't mean newbies, but people who can't teamplay nor read item descriptions, and just act stupid).

And if it comes to Warchasers, I think it's impossible to make it through tank level solo, but maybe I'm wrong And well, imo Warchasers were most balanced for 2 players, as 3-4 it was just easy, and solo it was hard, and I think, possible only with some heroes (Optimus Primo comes to mind), but except tank level.

when his int goes high enough(around 180)

1.holy shield means holy shit to the monsters,but to the priest,it means 2000+hp potions free forever...and holy light is similarly holy shit 2#...and also his summons heal too...monsters say what the fuck is he i think.... he just never die.

2.holy light+ancane wand makes a 2000+combo,his summons each deals nearly up to 100dmg,there r 5 of them.so i said it's the only hero needn't illusion wand,cuz he own some infinite 'ones'...no one deals more dps then him without illusion.

i even didn't spend out all the f point on this hero.he is madness to the monsters.


and to warchaser,win the tank level,the hint is the dragons and an item at the shop.also i done it with every hero solo it's even easier much than ur map.anyhow i consider it means i take your map as good as warchaser.so good job and move on!（i suggest u remove the extra shop if it can't be reached.i curse u for i did a lot of tries to reach it!
囧rz


ps:i down the 'warchaser2' in hive,but it bugs unbelieveablely just before the first boss fight.there is a magic wall standing over the boss area and never disappear=_=|||.do u guys who has a some version without bugs can give me ,thanks?cuz i see the author of it seems not show up these days...

my maildress: [email protected]

 

[Ijon Tichy]

Great map (5/5, ofc).
There were lots of work, and Pszczolek is still planning to do lots of work. Also there were lots of tests- I do not know how many things to fix I have found.

(Yes, I am Pszczolek's friend from RL.)

Also: I AM ON THE SCREENS!!!11

 

[niku55]

I like your map. oh not just me but my friends like your map! by the way when can you finish this map? where exited to see what is the add-on.

 

[Pszczolek]

I'm glad you like my map. Unfortunately I didn't update it for about a year, but I may be able to release new version soon, thought I don't think it will be in August, if things go well then probably in the beginning of September.

 

[Flutterguy]

Surpringly good

Surprisingly good for a map that was neither on makemehost or entgaming.net (uploaded to entgaming.net)

Flamestrike should say that it doesn't do friendly fire in the tooltip (as the default is to have friendly fire in wc3 and i was afraid to invest in it until i got it and someone stepped into it without taking any damage)

It should also say when you die that your teammates can revive you by killing a boss (or in quest log in an obviously marked spot)

The Fire Elemental from mage item has non-english tooltips still (if you want to finish translating) (permanent immolation and another passive)

The mage's golem/mechanism could use some more armor or health regeneration as you spend more mana summoning it.

The final boss got insane as it killed us off regenerating full health in seconds---way too much regeneration. We probably would have been fine but our tank died to the rock golems before our healer caught up; then our agility dps troll died to the boss--we were still doing okay; then the healer died; then the mage was utterly without hope.

 

[酋长萨尔A]

oh...hello,I'm from china.
your map is very good!

 

[Zordrak]

Here my review and rating (+: good things, -: bad things):
+: Awesome spells and items. Also nice and beautiful units, they are perfectly created. The triggering is well done too.
- : The terrain is just awful, there is no real terrain, it's just nothing (sorry it's just the truth).

Try to collect some ideas for the shaping in some other maps or You-Tube videos. Then create a dungeon with a great environment. Buildings and pillars are always a nice addition. Overall you get now 3.5 / 5 by me.

 

[O.Elayadi]

Pretty awesome Good work
Rate:4/5

 

[Pszczolek]

Thanks for comments guys and thanks for feedback Zordrak I'm glad you like spells, it's something I really like to work on. I will try to work on terrain, but it's a thing that I was never good at, I think. I must say that at some point it was even worse than now (believe it or not ). Anyway I plan to make some changes with it, I also plan to add more accesible areas.

 

[deepstrasz]

-hide hero selection after players choose
-don't spam with "you need the ghost key"...
-some rock chunks can be destroyed others are invulnerable
-when a player leaves a text in Polish is seen on the screen
-purple texted items that are for the same class could be placed near one another
-there's quite an imbalance in the zone where archers attack from highland and players not having ranged heroes
-quest requirements don't update in the quest log as well
-on load the quest with the necromancer appears in the log but he is long dead
-the player that kills more units gains more xp even though they are near each other. Is it on purpose?
-Razor Blade has a "left click to use" but nothing happens
-Infernal Machines can be stunned as they are not classified as mechanical
-the end boss has godlike regeneration
-why have the last boss named Kil'Jaeden? I mean it doesn't really feel like Warcraft anyway

-the terrain is a bit like that of old platform games

3.5/5.

 

[Pszczolek]

Thank you for feedback, deepstrasz! I will be addressing some of the issue you posted.

-What do you mean by hiding hero selection? Like remaking selection completely?
-Yeah, I will make it 1-shot messages
-Well, so far they are invulnerable on purpose
-I will fix that message
-I will rearrange shop items, but I will be changing quite a lot with items anyway
-Well, when there are more than 2 players, there probably should be some ranged heroes, and if you play solo they don't hurt that much
-I am aware of this, will fix it
-As above
-It is on purpose, killing gives some little bonus xp, but I think I will change it
-It's not supposed to be usable, will fix it
-Well, I didn't want enemies to be immune to crowd control, probably will make changes to enemy types anyway
-Every boss regenerates fast when out of combat to prevent hit and run strategies. I'm working on balancing bosses still.
-So far there is not much lore in map, so I don't really care that much about names, but it may change in the future
-I'm not a good terrainer, but I will try to improve. Probably will remake whole map layout when I decide how to make it.

I uploaded new version, thought I had it on my HDD for about 2 weeks already. I'm already working on next version now, but it will take some time.