WoW lore

[Amargaard]

Why shouldn't he be dead? Link please...

 

[AIagremm]

Not all can be shown in links boy... plus I remember that he isnt dead, plus if he was, why the heck was the sword left in it?

 

[Amargaard]

To show how it was killed and because it looks cool... Maybe to let the other Forgotten Ones know what strong enemies they are up against?

 

[AIagremm]

A giant glowing sword? No, too powerful, plus the Old Gods see all, they knew what they were up against.

 

[Amargaard]

Well, its still a cool sight...

 

[Phoonix]

I'm bringing back up the main discussions so. -Bump-

 

[TheFairfield]

Here's something that caught most WarCraft fans off guard. What's the deal with the draenei in Burning Crusade and why aren't they the same as the ones in Frozen Throne?

WHY?!

 

[VeljkoM]

Retcon. Frozen throne were natives, wow are aliens. Al will now explain in detail.

 

[AIagremm]

Actually in Burning Crusade are both, but they changed the history behind them. The ones from WCIII are lost ones, though the faction in TFT is Broken in BC and both kinds are corrupted by dark orcish magics. The ones playable are uncorrupted.

 

[TheFairfield]

Why does all the lore of the original need to be this way?!

Oh, and here's my opinion of how the factions should have been:

Alliance
Human
Dwarves
High Elves (Ones that went with Jaina to Kalimdor)
Gnomes

Horde
Orcs
Darkspear Trolls
Tauren
Goblins

Illidan's Forces
Blood Elves
Naga
Draenei

Sentinels
Night Elf
Worgen (Rumored history with Night Elves)

Undead (Not Allied)
Scourge
Forsaken

 

[TheFairfield]

*Sobbing* I just found out. In Cataclysm, Cairne Bloodhoof is dead! NOOOOOOOO!!!
On the bright side though, at least it's Baine who will replace him and not a douche like Garrosh.

 

[AIagremm]

What... Cairne is dead?! DAMN YOU WOW! WHY WONT YOU JUST DIE!!!

Also, I agree with you, except you forgot to add Ogres to the Horde and the Forsaken should be part of the Illidan's Forces(So-called Avengers)

Draenei are whole three subraces so they should be neutral faction of their own in my opinion, with close ties to Alliance because of their similarities.

 

[viktor1995]

lol
why everybody tell that the wow lore messed. The wow lore perfect, you just have to play with it. Everything what changed have a quest chain or something else, where you find the answer what happened. For example. OOOO noo the dread lords allives, but i kill them with Warimarthas i kill them. How they can allive. Warimarthas isn't serve the forsakens true, his master the burning legion. So he just acted that he kill his brothers.
or this is the stupied thing what i read: there are two keal'thas one is the original and one is a shadow. ... -.-" That1s the same one keal. In the tempest keep he had defeated and turned the shadow guy, then he came back to the sunwell to summon Kil'jaden.

There aren't anything that messed about the wow lore.

 

[viktor1995]

sorry about the double post but it was too long.
Cairne will dye because the grimtotem clan members use poison arrow when he duel with Garosh. Its a sad news, but if all of the caracter survive everything, there won't anything new. At the end of the second war the draenor had destroyed, it was a really sad news, but it is the role, and it was the new.

and about something i can answer: The old god in darkshore isn't dead or only his body. And in the upcoming cataclysm he will be resurect by the twilight hammer clan. (they started to digging up his body, he is a really big guy)

also C'thun didn't dead too. He has started to ressurect by Cho'gal. It's rumored by the comics he had fall because he stopped by Med'an, but we don't know later he tried or not again. Because Cho'gall still alive he will the final boss of grim batol dungeon, where a big secret will be revealed.

 

[AIagremm]

I just wont answer your first message -.-

Dude, I know all of that(except the poison arrow).

C'thun isnt dead because you cannot kill an Old God. They are Eternal. Though I too am intrigued why Cho'gall is there. From the description of Twilight Highlands it seems like an Old God is under them.

 

[viktor1995]

Don't answer but that the true, you first have to play with the game, then you will find the logical things in the chaos.
Why Cho'gal is there? WOW comics:
http://www.wowwiki.com/Secrets
It start in here, when revealed that Cho'gal is the servant of the old gods.
If you interest i can start a series about the wow lore. That explain what happened and why, whats the chain betwen the past warcraft games and more.

 

[VeljkoM]

Problem is that explanation are stupider then the act them selves sometimes. You can defend wow as much as you want but you can't make someone change their mind (even if you are right). You can post here every single quest and quote but it will still be stupid.

 

[AIagremm]

Indeed. I know all of WoW lore, so dont think that you will surprise me. I know all of it and most of it was just made to fit the players, not the lore. It is money and impression that matters now, not the lore.

However they did make a progress in a good way lately, but with Cataclysm... well they destroyed one world, Ill just wait for them to destroy Azeroth. Hopefully only good lore like the draenei(without Naaru tech)...

 

[Amargaard]

What's good about destroying Azeroth?

 

[VeljkoM]

Sarcasm Am.

 

[Amargaard]

I find the "Operation: Gnomeregan" and "Zalazane's Fall"-events cool, and I would really be curious to see how the two new capitals look (The Wowwiki-images shows cool stuff...). Though I probably never gonna play WoW again...

 

[Amargaard]

Seems Northrend will not be affected by Cataclysm at all, lol... :7

 

[MogulKahn]

I dont get it guys.Why you are talking about lore!I dont care about lore, its just a stupid game.I want nice raids and dungeons !

 

[VeljkoM]

Lore group -.-

And don't worry I am sure you and I won't have any talk about warcraft or plague known as wow.

 

[Amargaard]

Lol, why the fuck are you part of this group if you don't like lore?

 

[StormWarriors2]

Wtf? Why would you join lore lovers! ITS FOR LORE LOVING

 

[Amargaard]

Didn't understand that... O.O

 

[VeljkoM]

He is responding to long old post. Just his grammar needs little fixing.

 

[StormWarriors2]

Opps XD that is horrible Grammer even for me XD.

 

[Amargaard]

Why don't you change it then? I still don't understand it O.O

 

[StormWarriors2]

I did sorry.

 

[Amargaard]

Answer: Well, I joined because I love lore O.O

 

[TheFairfield]

Didn't we all?

 

[StormWarriors2]

I love lore. Thats why I joined

 

[Amargaard]

I got a discussable wow-subject. You know, the tower of Medivh, called Karazhan? In there, a mighty Eredar demon called "Prince Malchezzar" is the last-boss. When he is killed, the players can loot him. One of the notable loot-items is the legendary axe of Grom Hellscream, Gorehowl. How it ended there is unknown, but it is speculated that he took it from the grave of Grom in Ashenvale.

In Cataclysm Garrosh Hellscream, the son of Grom, wears Gorehowl. But how did he get that? Did he kill Malchezzar or what? O.O

 

[StormWarriors2]

Its WoW dude nothing in it makes sense.

 

[Amargaard]

Still it it worth discussing.

 

[StormWarriors2]

true.

 

[AIagremm]

No. Loot in WoW doesnt make sence. Yoyu may find a legendary aze of ancient orcs Rexxar found on Echo Isles in a simple mob in ELwynn Forest!

 

[Amargaard]

Really? O.O Hogger must've taken it! :O

 

[dragos98]

lol but no he didnt take it he apear in cata in stormwind stokade without it so....

 

[dexm]

Well what about stormwind it's park is gone and most of the city is in chaos.

 

[dragos98]

yeah...and I know that the twilight hammer cultist are in orgri and storwind and recruit guys...if you have cata you can see in orgri or stormwind a group of guys(NPC) who are 'atracted' by the cuiltist and want to join this clan.

 

[Ujimasa Hojo]

Any news about the Syndicate and the Perenoldes? It would be fun to have a three-way fight between Aliden, Isiden, and Beve. Aliden could be Forsaken while Isiden could be Worgen and engaged to Tess Greymane

 

[TheFairfield]

New discussion subject!:
Which dead character do you think was used the best?

 

[dragos98]

dead character???like...grom is dead and thrall speak about him or how???if undead Sylvanas until wotlk, in wotlk lich king.

 

[dragos98]

Ultimata yes is that the syndicate possible killed the prince named Galen trollbane, and the forsaken revived him(with the revive isnt possible only with the murders)...the durnholde is no longer occupied by the syndicate and losted the hills of Hillsbrad Foothills.

 

[Amargaard]

Yeah a lot of things have happened to the Hillsbrad Foothills

 

[dragos98]

really, a grand part of Hillsbrad Foothills will be occupied by the Forsaken, Southshore, the popular village who remained intact,and southshore is a old town, finally is plagued, but by the forsaken=))).Hillsbrad Foothills will not be a horde zone, becouse the hills will be populated by the dwarves of Stormpike Clan(from alterac valley), however in hillsbrad foothills a ally lev 20-25 dont survive becouse of the forsaken.Hillsbrad is taken by the horde...only the hills stop the zone to be named a horde zone).

 

[Razosh]

C'Thun and Yogg-Saron has fallen under the wings of the dragon aspects now it's N'Zaths time to pay for what he did to Neltharion, Malygos, Ysera, Nozdormu and the five flights.