WoW lore

[Misha]

Order them, yes. control... no.

 

[Fussiler1]

''Controlling them to prevent raging and destroying each other''
You can't order someone: ''Stop being angry!'',

 

[VeljkoM]

Well I didn't say that they were killing each other but there was always the danger of orcs everywhere. Ogrim couldn't move all clans and every single orc, there were some that stayed at orc outposts, at Spire... Orcs that were left behind or new coming orcs from portal were far from Ogrim to be controlled.

 

[Fussiler1]

Maybe far from Orgrim, but he too had lieutenants, sergeants and generals. Duh.

 

[Misha]

Fussiler... you lost the game

 

[VeljkoM]

Do orcs even have that kind of ranks? Also what if commanding orc is leading the group? And orcs that came from portal weren't under command of any Lieutenant.

 

[AIagremm]

Dudes! Blizzard announced that Cataclysm will be the next expansion.
Gilneanians will be the worgen. They will open the gates because of the Forsaken who attacked them.

 

[VeljkoM]

Well lore is officially corrupted.

 

[Fussiler1]

Forsaken attacked them?
...
I believe it was a disease came into Gilneas and turned all the guys into Worgen. They found a partial cure and now they're half-a-half.

 

[VeljkoM]

Vorgens belong to the scourge now not forsaken.

 

[Misha]

all gone awry...

 

[VeljkoM]

Three things now are considered lore which never should happen.
-Carine is Traitor
-Goblins break the being neutral policy after so many years
-Gilineas is transformed to werewolf from another dimension and now help Alliance

 

[Misha]

and we just need Old gods and sargeras returning >x<

 

[AIagremm]

Cairne isnt traitor. I think.
i met that the Forsaken attacked Gilneas, and because of that they opened the gates and returned to allaince.
BTW, speaking of old gods, Deathwing and Azshara, Old Gods favorite minions are the main characters.

 

[VeljkoM]

Misha they are returning... they are the new events.

 

[Misha]

[censored by Ghan_03] ><;;

 

[Fussiler1]

Guys. Garrosh isn't the warchief yet, you know?

''Thrall, whose role will be changing, possibly to relinquish command of the Horde.''
It's not yet certain.

And god, Garrosh is just so damn gay. A dumb brute, seriously. Thrall is smart, wise and powerful. Perfect leader.

 

[AIagremm]

Yeah. Garrosh thought that his dad is a monster, and when he heard about what he did in the end, he became crazy. It was too much for him to handle and now he thinks that he needs to be like his dad.
Oh, I get it, he wants to destroy peaceful innocent people, then twice corrupt his brethren and then die so that people would think that you saved them.

 

[Fussiler1]

Aye. And the worst is that he's a Mag'har..
''Uncorrupted'', hah!

 

[AIagremm]

Indeed. Where does he get his bloodlust from?

 

[Fussiler1]

Who knows.

 

[StormWarriors2]

wow stop messing up the good lore

 

[Fussiler1]

Well, I actually like some of the lore in Cataclysm. The Gilneas thing is just brilliant.
That Azeroth got revamped is too great. And damn, Deathwing returning.. awesome.

 

[VeljkoM]

You think that Gilineas thing is brilliant after so much protester against attack on them? Also you are ok that goblins have done something that was time after time denied from ever happening. But I agree that new events (except Carins) sound great.

 

[AIagremm]

Actually new lore about goblins is quite good.
Since there was a volcano on Kezan, it erupted.
And Bilgewater cartel left Kezan, but crushed on lost islands(I hope they are related to the Broken Islands) where they were attacked by "Alliance"

 

[Fussiler1]

Aye, I like Gilneas after the so bloody long debate, ^^.
I've proven my point that the Scourge didn't attack them, and Cataclysm agrees with me!

 

[VeljkoM]

Right just vorgen that are part of the scourge.

 

[Fussiler1]

...
No. No. And no.
The Worgen are creatures from another world or dimension and some are just following their master, Arugal. These are indeed part of the Scourge, but not all the Worgen are. There is a sort of plague that can turn other people into Worgen, not making them immediatly followers of the Scourge.
The curse infected most Gilneans, making them Worgen, not slaves of the Scourge. They are part of the Alliance.

 

[VeljkoM]

Well some are in scourge. That guy that tried to control them is with Lich King.

 

[Fussiler1]

Note; some.
Note; Worgens are not part of the Scourge, only some.
Note; I am right.

 

[AIagremm]

The worgens of Arugal are his own worgen.
The worgens of the Shade of Arugal belong to the scourge.

 

[Fussiler1]

Duh. It's just much easier to say 'Arugal' instead of 'Shade of Arugal'

 

[VeljkoM]

?

This is peoples opinion of newest patch.

 

[AIagremm]

It scares me too. The stranegst thing is that even if you play Burning Crusade or WotLK your world will still be changed, but you will need the expansion for more stuff.

 

[VeljkoM]

That guy is WoW fanatic. He plays WoW with his wife... well in comic. I have no idea or interest about his real life.

 

[StormWarriors2]

Well wow just turned to hell XD

 

[AbstractCreativity]

I play WoW, and tbh I think Cataclysm will be awesome. But I *HATE* the immense amount of lore-fail in it. Haven't Blizz fucked up the Lore enough yet? -.-

 

[Misha]

noup, and they never will. There will always be more lore to fuck up...

 

[AIagremm]

Srsly destroying the world is really crazy this time. They even destroyed Undermine and Kezan! Its actually an addon in which they will make the places they havent finished in the first place new zones and stuff, and the flying in Azeroth will make them do the details better, but still...

 

[VeljkoM]

And I wander why are wow players pissed since last patch.

 

[HailFireer]

Heh, I like Cataclysm. I mean, I don't think that this is too fucked up. I like the change. I mean, they had to change a lot of lore for WoW, but here, nothing much is changed. Most is ADDED.

Besides, game is old 5 years. It really needed a major change to keep up.

 

[AIagremm]

Yeah, at least they have returned Gilneas, Grim Batol, Kezan, Uldum, Hyjal and some other places that are lore-accurate. Its a progress since lately they were just adding garbage-lore.

 

[HailFireer]

Well, lore for BC was shit. They allied BE with horde and edited whole Erredar race. I mean Erredar with nerthrazime were first Sargeras' servants.

But cataclysm didn't do much wrong. Goblins are back in to the Horde. Worgen. Well, they do not seam like alliance material, but it is mentioned that they might have something to do with NE old druidic order. And besides, they are new to War universe, so they can do what ever they want with them.

And, about whole cataclysm thing, world needs to move on. It cant be stuck always on Horde vs Alliance vs Scurge thing.
If we look at it like this, why no one complained when Scurge was introduced. They are same thing like cata, but lesser scale...

 

[VeljkoM]

Worgens in alliance were humans from kingdom of Gilineas so that is why they help Alliance. Before druid explanation lore worgens were summoned from some other dimension by mage Argual (something like that). Now he and his worgens serve scourge so Worgens are fighting for all except Horde.

Not much wrong. They broken whole Azeroth! All those lore places are covered with lava. And Garosh that brown shit wants to be warchief of the Horde.

 

[AIagremm]

They were first summoned in Felwood by druids, and then by Arugal. Scythe of Elune used by the night elves to summon worgen infested Ashenvale and Duskwood. Arugal infested Lordaeron and part of Northrend.
Plus, Gilneasians found the cure to keep their mind, while becoming a orgen, plus they are still humans, they still think that Alliance is good, and this time they need the Alliance and not the other way around.

 

[AIagremm]

And stuff they are saying about old druidic order and night elves being allies of the worgen is total stupidity.
The night elves and druids are only related to the worgen in Ashenvale and Duskwood, and not the Silverpine forest worgen.

 

[HailFireer]

Both worgen originate from same dimension. So they are the same. Aldo Gilneas worgen are different.

 

[VeljkoM]

It is "quick fix up" lore.

Gilineas didn't like Alliance when they were humans so now they are crawling back like scum they are. Where were they in third war when humanity needed them? Where were they in Second war?

 

[StormWarriors2]

omg wtf blizzard you fucked up lore agian. Stop messing up the lore. I use to love all of the places where you could go. But now they destoried EVERYTHING. they coppied so many games when the did this new expansion look at a warhammer map and a Warcarft Map. See any difference hint they are exactly the fucking same.

 

[VeljkoM]

Well now lore and geography are strange. Also some player complain about Tauren Paladin and some new classes. I don't get what is so wrong with that.