What should I purchase?

[Narrat0r]

Time for upgrading the PC, but I have only 40 Euros. Is it smarter to buy GeForce N9400 (i currently have 6200) or there is a good processor for that much money? Please respond.

 

[The_wand_mirror]

lol, not rly no.

You have AMD or Intel?

 

[Narrat0r]

Intel... Celeron. Spew. Horrible.

 

[The Reborn Devil]

Go for GeForce then. Intel and GeForce works best together. AMD processors are a lot cheaper than Intel processors and they're faster, but then you should get an ATI GPU though. I think the best would be to get more money and go for an AMD cpu, an ATI GPU as well as Windows 7 (DirectX 11 FTW).

 

[Narrat0r]

Will my performance be better with Windows 7?

 

[The Reborn Devil]

Will my performance be better with Windows 7?

Yes. If you got Windows XP it will be approx. 2 times faster and if you got Vista it will be 4 (or was it 6?) times faster (Vista is slower than XP).

 

[Narrat0r]

OMFG! Buying W7 right now!

 

[The Reborn Devil]

That is the OS though, games won't be that much faster
You will notice a difference there too, but not that much.

Edit: Also, just like Vista you should have at least 2GB RAM if you want to have it on your computer.

 

[HINDYhat]

Yes. If you got Windows XP it will be approx. 2 times faster and if you got Vista it will be 4 (or was it 6?) times faster (Vista is slower than XP).

Uhhh......... WHAT?

 

[The Reborn Devil]

Uhhh......... WHAT?

Yes, I read that in an article about Windows 7. That operating system is much faster than the other ones (startup and stuff), but you won't notice a big difference in games though. You will notice some because of DX 11 (only for DX11 games) and it is faster.

 

[BlargHonk]

/me facepalms at reborn

to quote Jim Cramer, "YOU KNOW NOTHING!"

Look, Windows 7 does have better performance than Vista, but it doesn't do much better than XP, we are talking about an unnoticeable difference between XP and 7

And XP doesn't even support DX11, let alone 10. Hell, the only DX11 GPU's are the HD5's and those start at $100.


And ATI not working with Intel? You kidding me? You have to get a special Nvidia chipset to allow SLI, most Intel Chipsets since the 955 have supported crossfire, not SLI

 

[The Reborn Devil]

/me facepalms at reborn

to quote Jim Cramer, "YOU KNOW NOTHING!"

Look, Windows 7 does have better performance than Vista, but it doesn't do much better than XP, we are talking about an unnoticeable difference between XP and 7

And XP doesn't even support DX11, let alone 10. Hell, the only DX11 GPU's are the HD5's and those start at $100.

It is in fact two times faster than XP. And I know XP doesn't support DX10/11.

And ATI not working with Intel? You kidding me? You have to get a special Nvidia chipset to allow SLI, most Intel Chipsets since the 955 have supported crossfire, not SLI

Where did I say that ATI isn't working with Intel? Please gief link to the post where I said that.

 

[Coolty44]

I recently updated my netbook from XP to 7 and it does seem faster, and the battery life seems to have increased by atleast half, running 5 hours ideal at 50% (Never took note at 75% or anything)

 

[Dr Super Good]

Well, depends what you use your PC for. If you want to game you should seriously think about saving up for some decent components. If you use it for recreational, look at what is slowing your PC down and try and improve that area.

Keep in mind that there are gamming systems like the PS3 and 360 which will probably provide you far more bang for the buck than possible with your current PC, specially since it looks stone old.

When using your PC, what is the bottleneck. Is your processor running at 80%+ most of the time? Is your RAM near 80% load? Is your hard disk nearlly full? Is your graphic card reducing FPS (only counts if the above are not present).

 

[BlargHonk]

Go for GeForce then. Intel and GeForce works best together. AMD processors are a lot cheaper than Intel processors and they're faster, but then you should get an ATI GPU though. I think the best would be to get more money and go for an AMD cpu, an ATI GPU as well as Windows 7 (DirectX 11 FTW).

Here is where you said it, you little forgetful zombie you.

 

[The Reborn Devil]

Here is where you said it, you little forgetful zombie you.

Can you mark out the words? Because it seems I obviously can't read. If what you say is true, that is.

 

[Dr Super Good]

W7 seems faster than XP due to it being more responsive. Due to its ability to do more it actually uses more system resoruces than XP though.

Thus I advise W7 only if you have hardware which benifits from it. Any DX10 card or multi core CPU is reason enough to use W7 as W7's OS uses them better than XP. If your hardware is old then stick with XP as you can not afford reduction in system resources. Also you may have driver problems for old prebuilt PCs if you update to W7.

 

[Narrat0r]

W7, any better for gaming than XP?

 

[Dr Super Good]

Yes if you are like me with an intel I7, 6 GB DDR3 RAM and a nvidia geforce 275 GTX.

If you are using a P4 with an nvidia geforce 7800 card and 2 GB RAM, then stick to XP.

W7 has a higher OS load than XP so will run slower on old hardware. On new hardware it is faster cause it uses it better. More addressable RAM, DX10 and better multi threading support all are features of W7 which can not be used without compatible hardware.

 

[The Reborn Devil]

[...] DX11 [...]

Anyway, I'm getting Windows 7 soon.
I got
AMD Phenom II quad-core BE @ 3.51 GHz.
HIS Radeon HD 5750 with 1 GB Dedicated Memory and DX11.
OCZ Platinum DDR3 3GB Kit (Planning on getting 4GB)
ASUS M4A79T Deluxe Socket-AM3
T2210HD BenQ Screen @ 1920x1080

And I would like to tell the one who said I couldn't play Crysis at max with a screen like the one I have now is wrong. I just tested Crysis Warhead at full resolution and graphics at enthusiast and I could play with good FPS. Not 80+ like before, but 35+ or something.

 

[BlargHonk]

Why did you buy an i7 ramkit...

 

[Dr Super Good]

If you are using XP that is to be expected as I believe crysis supports DX10. Anyway considering how it was impossible to max crysis when it came out, you have to admit how powerful modern processors are.

Last time I checked DDR3 cost as much as DDR2 (lol) so as long as it is compatible I doubt it is a problem as it sure as hell is better than DDR2 RAM if it works.

 

[The Reborn Devil]

Yes, it's compatible with my MOBO. It's actually designed for DDR3 RAM and AM3 CPU's

 

[BlargHonk]

Yes, it's compatible with my MOBO. It's actually designed for DDR3 RAM and AM3 CPU's

No, but why did you buy a triple channel ramkit when AM3's are dual channel

 

[Dr Super Good]

As far as I can tell he is planning to add an additional 1GB to it which will bring it to a multiple of 2 (I think dual channel will work then).

 

[BlargHonk]

No, for dual channel to work, they need to be the EXACT same RAM model

 

[The Reborn Devil]

It works very good and it was very cheap. It's actually better than what others (as in people and http://www.systemrequirementslab.com) tells me. According to them and you I can't play Crysis at max with resolution at 1920x1080, but I can with no problem at all. Everything runs so smoothly, which means it and the other parts in my computer are good, and it was the best I could get for that price.

 

[BlargHonk]

Yes, but you got triplechannel ram, which means 3 1gb sticks

If you had gotten 2 2gb sticks, it would be faster, and actually cheaper:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231277
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820104117

 

[Dr Super Good]

Whats to stop him getting another 1 GB of the same model? or are they only sold in 3s?

 

[BlargHonk]

Might not be the same revision

I mean they have to be literal clones

 

[Samuraid]

No, for dual channel to work, they need to be the EXACT same RAM model

Dual channel RAM works so long as the memory is of similar type (generation, rank, frequency, voltage, timings, etc.). Some motherboards may be picky, but in general this principle holds.

In fact, you can often get away with running RAM of different frequencies and timings since the on-die memory controller (or MMU, if you use a FSB-based Intel system) queries the SPD on each memory module, and runs the memory at the least common denominator: the frequency and timings of the slowest memory module.

 

[BlargHonk]

No, I think that is across memory channels, like 2 sets of dual channel

I know you can run them single channeled like that, but it is slower

 

[Samuraid]

No, I think that is across memory channels, like 2 sets of dual channel

I know you can run them single channeled like that, but it is slower

Dual-channel memory is run across 2 channels. That's why it's called "dual channel".

Two sets of dual channel would be called "quad channel", such as what the Intel 5400 chipset offers.

 

[The Reborn Devil]

Yes, but you got triplechannel ram, which means 3 1gb sticks

If you had gotten 2 2gb sticks, it would be faster, and actually cheaper:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231277
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820104117

My choice was actually cheaper (here in Norway).

Whats to stop him getting another 1 GB of the same model? or are they only sold in 3s?

They were sold as 1GB and 3GB. It was cheaper to buy 1x3GB than 3x1GB. And there were no 2GB available, at least not in that type, there were some slower 2GB and 4GB available though.

 

[BlargHonk]

Wait, so it is a single 3gb stick? O_O

 

[The Reborn Devil]

No, it was a 3GB kit, as in there were 3x1GB in it and it was cheaper to buy that 3GB kit than 3 separate 1GB sticks.

 

[BlargHonk]

....

Which means you bought a kit meant for i7's, not Phenom 2's

 

[The Reborn Devil]

There were no RAM kit's meant for AMD Phenom II there. There was the one I bought (the best for it's price) and tons of really bad ones and some really awesome insanely expensive ones.

 

[BlargHonk]

This is why you buy online nublet

 

[The Reborn Devil]

I did....
Can't you just accept that I bought that RAM kit? It's not that hard you know.

 

[Deathcom3s]

Anyway, I'm getting Windows 7 soon.
I got
AMD Phenom II quad-core BE @ 3.51 GHz.
HIS Radeon HD 5750 with 1 GB Dedicated Memory and DX11.
OCZ Platinum DDR3 3GB Kit (Planning on getting 4GB)
ASUS M4A79T Deluxe Socket-AM3
T2210HD BenQ Screen @ 1920x1080

And I would like to tell the one who said I couldn't play Crysis at max with a screen like the one I have now is wrong. I just tested Crysis Warhead at full resolution and graphics at enthusiast and I could play with good FPS. Not 80+ like before, but 35+ or something.

That would be me. now tell me, do you have AF and AA all the way up? That's the $1 million dollar question.

 

[Dr Super Good]

Also do you have your graphic driver options all set to maximum render quality? Normally they are medium / low end of high.

 

[The Reborn Devil]

I do.