What should I make?

xp3r009 · Jul 20, 2009

Before I leave for a long time (the tests are going to come, and that I have a tournament arriving, so most likely I cannot come for so long and often), I wondered a suggestion of ideas of what programs I should make. Didn't get much ideas this time due to a hard time with Maths, and I am having some trouble with more harder factorizing.

Currently I made Warcraft III based programs like Modelicious, MPQ Editor and Colourizer which have been published. I wonder what other ideas could I make while I was gone. Overall, if possible, what programs could I make with the use of .NET during my time gone. Thanks

. I will try to produce them if possible and good enough, but it will depend my time through work and programming.

Andy Phan (pha0001).

Kercyn · Jul 20, 2009

Well, I've been thinking about something lately. I've noticed that W3 doesn't have a trigger debugger, meaning that when you write a trigger, you have to run the game again and again to make it work, and you can't always tell why something doesn't work or works in a strange way. I know this can be extremely difficult to program, but it would be nice if we had one

xp3r009 · Jul 21, 2009

Kercyn said:
Well, I've been thinking about something lately. I've noticed that W3 doesn't have a trigger debugger, meaning that when you write a trigger, you have to run the game again and again to make it work, and you can't always tell why something doesn't work or works in a strange way. I know this can be extremely difficult to program, but it would be nice if we had one

Hmm... Sounds good and I get you, but a example would be nice. Probably that could clarify your idea, overall good

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Kercyn · Jul 21, 2009

For example:

I write this trigger

Events
- Unit - A unit dies
Conditions
- Unit - (Triggering unit) has xyz buff Equat to True
Actions
- Unit - Kill (Triggering Unit)

This won't work, of course, since
1) You can't detect a buff on a dead unit and
2) You can't kill a dead unit!

The debugger would notify the mapper of these 2 points, and explain why it wouldn't work.

xp3r009 · Jul 21, 2009

Oh I see, some sort of trigger optimizer and checker for getting the code right. I can do GUI, but for JASS I will have to wait for some time. I will be pending that, thanks

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Kercyn · Jul 21, 2009

You're welcome. If you need any help with this, I would be glad to (try to ^^) help

xp3r009 · Jul 21, 2009

Kercyn said:
You're welcome. If you need any help with this, I would be glad to (try to ^^) help

Don't worry about it, I will have to make a list of what tactical outcomes it could take through triggering in Warcraft III. I wonder if there is more?

Kercyn · Jul 21, 2009

I have something in mind, but I'm afraid that's more difficult to implement (it's easier to program though ^^)

Let's say, for the sake of the conversation, that I want to create x custom units and each unit is able to upgrade y times. The only way to do that is to first create a dummy and then change each dummy's name/stats/whatevah in order to make it different. Not only is this boring, but it's time-consuming too. WE lags like hell when creating custom units or editing certain stats of them. So, my suggestion:

The program would have a WE-like UI and it will be responsible for tranfering each unit's data to WE. The user should be able to choose which values interest him/her and make the rest invisible. The user may also write a formula on how attack/armor/etc should be upgraded and then the level of upgrades. The program would then create z upgrades using the formula.

I hope you understand what I 'm talking about. I never manage to write what I have in my mind in an understandable way

xp3r009 · Jul 22, 2009

Kercyn said:
I have something in mind, but I'm afraid that's more difficult to implement (it's easier to program though ^^)

Let's say, for the sake of the conversation, that I want to create x custom units and each unit is able to upgrade y times. The only way to do that is to first create a dummy and then change each dummy's name/stats/whatevah in order to make it different. Not only is this boring, but it's time-consuming too. WE lags like hell when creating custom units or editing certain stats of them. So, my suggestion:

The program would have a WE-like UI and it will be responsible for tranfering each unit's data to WE. The user should be able to choose which values interest him/her and make the rest invisible. The user may also write a formula on how attack/armor/etc should be upgraded and then the level of upgrades. The program would then create z upgrades using the formula.

I hope you understand what I 'm talking about. I never manage to write what I have in my mind in an understandable way

I got to agree that when creating a unit, World Editor lags a little (its annoying how you have to wait). I could make one, but I would need some help. We could probably make a World Editor like program, but some graphical programming would be needed. This might be a great idea.

Kercyn · Jul 22, 2009

I'm afraid the help I can offer is limited in Visual Basic (ye, I know, meh, but that's what I know ^^). VB can help with the UI and I am able to call external programs through it. However, I'm going on vacation this Saturday and I'll be off for about a month.

xp3r009 · Jul 22, 2009

Kercyn said:
I'm afraid the help I can offer is limited in Visual Basic (ye, I know, meh, but that's what I know ^^). VB can help with the UI and I am able to call external programs through it. However, I'm going on vacation this Saturday and I'll be off for about a month.

Oh okay. For some reason I have to learn how the mechanism of Warcraft III works, how 3D graphics work (I'm sure its possible, but its not as powerful), but don't worry about it. Have a good vacation, I will have to do some research soon

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Velmarshal · Aug 12, 2009

Make a name generator. I mostly see maps with crap names.

xp3r009 · Aug 13, 2009

Velm said:
Make a name generator. I mostly see maps with crap names.

Probably give a example I guess, just in case so that I can understand it.

Velmarshal · Aug 13, 2009

Something like this. http://www.rinkworks.com/namegen/
Just make an archives with similar names.

xp3r009 · Aug 13, 2009

Velm said:
Something like this. http://www.rinkworks.com/namegen/
Just make an archives with similar names.

Oh okay, so your saying to make a name generator like that. I could to try to think of more, but I would be pretty bad at it anyway but I guess so. Thanks.

Velmarshal · Aug 13, 2009

It should be simple.

Eleandor · Aug 13, 2009

Make a new editor, start with the terrain features as seen in the thread on the terrain forum...

Velmarshal · Aug 13, 2009

Eleandor said:
Make a new editor, start with the terrain features as seen in the thread on the terrain forum...

Or he could just join the jngp team.

BlargHonk · Aug 14, 2009

Another expansion for Warcraft

Or manage to emulate Doom inside of Wc3

Velmarshal · Aug 14, 2009

BlargHonk said:
Another expansion for Warcraft

Or manage to emulate Doom inside of Wc3

Too late, IlidanEvilX already did it.

BlargHonk · Aug 15, 2009

Wut, where

Velmarshal · Aug 15, 2009

BlargHonk said:
Wut, where

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rswaBZY13Ow

BlargHonk · Aug 16, 2009

Where can I get that O_O

Is there a multiplayer version?

What should I make?

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