What does the Hide-action do?

[Cookin_With_Coolio]

So, well, what does the Hide-action in GUI do?

 

[Teelo]

Where?

 

[Cookin_With_Coolio]

unit

 

[Adiktuz]

you mean

• Unit - Hide Unit

if that's it, it hides a unit completely (it becomes TOTALLY invisible to all players, including the owner)

 

[Cookin_With_Coolio]

oh, ok, thanks, thats all i wanted to know

 

[Adiktuz]

oh, ok, thanks, thats all i wanted to know

also if its a hero, I think you cannot select it when you use Hide - Unit even if you click on the icon...

 

[CyberDuelX16]

The Hidden unit Cannot Attack Either ^^

 

[Bribe]

but can cast spells ^^

 

[Pharaoh_]

No, the hidden unit has no interaction with the game.. at all. If you have a hero for example and you hide them, then get some ally unit to cast a spell on them (by right clicking the UI button of the hero - left side of the map), it will tell you that that unit is not visible on the map.

 

[CyberDuelX16]

Exactly.

 

[Bribe]

No, the hidden unit has no interaction with the game.. at all. If you have a hero for example and you hide them, then get some ally unit to cast a spell on them (by right clicking the UI button of the hero - left side of the map), it will tell you that that unit is not visible on the map.

Many of us use hidden dummy units to cast spells though

 

[Pharaoh_]

Hidden dummies? It's the first time I hear that. I only knew of hidden items being used in triggers. Maybe you're right, I am too bored to test now.

 

[Azeroc]

Many of us use hidden dummy units to cast spells though

Those are not hidden dummies. Dummies can't be seen because they don't use model. I usually set dummy model to "none.mdl" which will make it completely unselectable (can be selected if it is hero) and invisible (cause it has no model), though it also must be invulnerable, because it still can be hurt by spells. Locust is also needed, so it can go anywhere and through anything.

Hide action hides unit completely and partly pauses it. I have experienced that somehow hidden units manage to cast spells if they start channel before being hidden.

 

[Bribe]

Guy, hidden units can cast a million spells. Even blizzard used hidden units to cast spells in their final orc map with the falling infernals (those are hidden casters casting Inferno)

 

[CyberDuelX16]

They are just dummies with no model

 

[Bribe]

They are just dummies with no model

Guy, open the mpq file and view that orc map. You don't know what your talking.

 

[CyberDuelX16]

Couldn't be bothered Lol

 

[cookies4you]

Here's my explanation

Hidden units are units stored somewhere inside the map, while not being on the map itself. Hidden units are stored in archives that hold its stats and anything else, but hidden units are counted as removed until revealed, reloading all of its stats and original location.

 

[HailFireer]

And don't pay attention to Bribe. If you need a dummy unit use a NONE for a model. Don't hide a unit...

 

[MortAr]

Here's my explanation

Hidden units are units stored somewhere inside the map, while not being on the map itself. Hidden units are stored in archives that hold its stats and anything else, but hidden units are counted as removed until revealed, reloading all of its stats and original location.

Pretty close, hidden units are moved outside map bounds, thus making them unselectable, and completly unusuable. But that doesn't means that the unit is completly removed from the game.

As for the "hidden" dummies, some of the posts already said what I will .. theres no hidden dummies, they just don't have a valid model path (typing "none.MDL" will make it unselectable), but the unit still can use spells, move and even attack. The missle dummies usually uses Vexorian's popular model "dummy.mdx" which has attachment (origin, chest, overhead), SFX for the missles are attached to these points. Others use the exact model of the missle they need.

 

[HailFireer]

Hidden units can cast spells and and attack. But attacked unit will not detect it is being attacked.
But hidden units are much harder to use for spells then dummy units.

 

[CyberDuelX16]

Yeah, I knew i was right bribe! In Your Face ^^

 

[HailFireer]

Actually he was right also. Hidden can attack and cast spells. Aldo hidden dummies is pointless.

 

[CyberDuelX16]

, 50/50?

 

[HailFireer]

Yes, but this is not the arena. Go fight somewhere else

 

[CyberDuelX16]

Cmon, Plzzz? -Puppy Face-

 

[HailFireer]

*cough*ban*cough*

 

[CyberDuelX16]

>< True Enough -Hugs Plushie Version of HailFireer-