Warhammer Club

[Tyranid]

Dark Eldar as a chaos race would make no sense considering the current fluff.

 

[Gespenst]

I acually found some Chaos Orks, they arent very developed as far as an army goes, but they have their own official miniatures.

it is possible for Orks to overindulge their taste for militarism and bloodshed, which will ultimately lead them to Khorne.

Source
It seems an orc occasionally turns to khorne.

http://www.solegends.com/citcat911/c2074orkfreebooterz-h.htm

2 chaos ork miniatures are listed.

 

[Pyramidhe@d]

chaos orks? i doubt they are smart enough to serve a god. and those miniatures are ancient

 

[HailFireer]

Can someone explain the whole Genseed thing. I dont understand it. I mean what, when your a recruit they take genseed and plant it in to you, and when you die, they take it out and plant it in to someone else?

 

[Gespenst]

They are, but since they havent been ruled out by new material they still stand true.

In fact, the daemonhunters codex mentions them a bit.

http://oz.games-workshop.com/games/40k/daemonhunters/painting/chaosorks/default.htm

Geneseeds are gene treatments given to new recruits once they prove themselves. The geneseeds are what make the space marines different from just becoming heavily armored guardsmen, and seperate one chapter from another.

 

[Tyranid]

Just to add, after the Space Marines are given a geneseed they grow a second one (don't know how long this takes), so that means that for each Space Marines results in an "extra" marine-to-be-made if you know what I mean.

 

[Crusad3r91]

Dark Eldars are surely influenced by Chaos but they are not a race like that. While it may seem that they worship Slaanesh, they actually hate him, since they just do all the sacrifices and the tortures for preventing him to chase them. So considering them a Chaos race is wrong.

 

[Gespenst]

There are eldar worshippers of slaanesh(the ones who stayed behind in the eye of terror), but the Dark Eldar are not chaos. I wouldnt say that the dark eldar hate slaanesh, but would consider him a burden.

I'm just a bit edgy on Xenos chaos worshippers, me myself being fascinated with chaos culture.

Looking more into chaos orks, i've found that not only do chaos orks follow Khorne by bloodshed, mutant orks occasionally turn to Nurgle, who they see as a fellow "greenskin". Chaos orks are only really mentioned by one person, Adrian Wood, but considering that he's Game's Workshop staff its official stuff.

 

[Gespenst]

Spiffy new layout eh? time to split this mass conversation into threads

 

[Pyramidhe@d]

dark eldar needs to constanty consume souls because slaanesh is leeching their souls.

edit: since now we can have different threads, i suggest we make threads for game talk and lore talk before everybody starts making gazillion threads

ps. and someone should make our group icon

 

[Warhunter]

Me! I would like too.
I could at least try.

 

[HailFireer]

I was searching arounf youtube, and I found some movies from Warhammer 40k final liberation, and I was like WTF?
So WTF?

 

[Crusad3r91]

WH40k Final Liberation is a turn-based RTS featuring Imperium against Orks. It came out in 1997, so the graphics aren't that great. xD
More informations here.

 

[Warhunter]

I have played it. It's not so funny. But it's ok to play on a bad computer. I prefer the new Warhammer games.

 

[Pyramidhe@d]

ha. they are gonna have blood bowl as a PC game. looks pretty decent

 

[Warhunter]

Nice game!
http://www.bloodbowl-game.com/
Check our the trailer on their site.

 

[Gespenst]

Chaos in teh bloodbowl >

 

[Warhunter]

I may buy that game, if I don't find anything else or no money.

 

[Tyranid]

I'm going a bit back in the topic since I've been away for the weekend and answer a little bit:

Dark Eldar have not been influenced by Chaos at all. Back before the Imperium the Eldar had the greatest Empire in the whole galaxy. Most of the races had been enslaved by them and these races did all the work so the "master race" (Eldar) had the freedom to indulge themselves in whatever they wanted. They began to have orgies which slowly became more and more sadistic. All this excess caused the birth of Slaanesh and the 'birth scream of Slaanesh' caused massive Warp Storms which pretty much devastated the whole Eldar Empire.
The Eldar split into Craftworld Eldar and Dark Eldar. The Craftworld Eldar changed their ways and began to resist Chaos while the Dark Eldar kept their sadistic ways. The Dark Eldar do not worship Slaanesh thought and they believe they didn't have much part in Slaanesh's birth.

 

[Tyranid]

By the way anyone here played any Warhammer game before Dawn of War? I remember that I played the demo of Rites of War long time ago. Basically in the game Eldar fought against Tyranids and Space Marines.

 

[Warhunter]

I have played Final Libritation

 

[Gespenst]

I'm not saying the dark eldar are slaanesh worshipers, I am saying there are eldar worshippers of slaanesh, no matter how minor that faction is.

And i've downloaded Final Libertion on the pretense that it was another expansion.

 

[Tyranid]

Actually Gespenst, I wasn't replying to your post about Eldars that worship Slaanesh. I was just generally stating that Dark Eldar do not workship Slaanesh (contrary to popular belief in DoW forums). I'm also aware of some Eldars who worship Slaanesh.

 

[Mechanical Man]

I was always wondering, in warhammer40k universe, what kind of technology is used by civilian populace. I mean they have TV, computers, cars, home technics (dunno how to call it, here we say 'bela tehnika', things like fridge, kitchen range, etc.,..), work machines, transport ... As they live in future, it is expectable they to have very high tech stuff than we use today. But the current imperial arsenal doesn't really look that advanced, the houses still look very similar to today age, they use the same roads etc. How developed is the civilan technology in that universe for the human imperium?

 

[Gespenst]

What are we talking about?

In the warhammer 40k universe culture and technology generally varies from planet to planet, from a decadent Hive world to a Feudal World to an Industrial world.

Usually in the imperium, technology follows the armies, In chaos, you spend every waking moment worshipping the glorious chaos gods. For orks, you dont really do much besides fighting, and Eldar.... I don't know what Eldar do in their spare time.

 

[Warhunter]

I think they are singing. The Eldar.

 

[Mechanical Man]

I'm talking about human race.

 

[Warhunter]

He said that he didn't know what eldar did whit thier free time. And I thought that they where singing.

 

[Crusad3r91]

How developed is the civilan technology in that universe for the human imperium?

Not much. It's not high tech, that's all I know for sure... xD
I read some details in the Gaunt's Ghosts Novels but, like Gespenst said, technology varies from planet to planet.

 

[Tyranid]

I don't know much about the civilian technology. I think it has not been talked about in lore alot.

 

[Warhunter]

I where bored, and got an idea. I have created an little Warhammer fansite. ^^
http://www.geocities.com/hunter.tell/wh40k/index.html
The most of the site is written by me in html, not all, I got some help.

 

[Warhunter]

nah, I kidding. I havent write everything. Just some.
One problem whit the website is that it sometimes when it have been many visitors it shuts down.
But I also got one forum for it.
http://wh40kforum.omgforum.net/

 

[HailFireer]

I got me self a DArk Crusade and Soulstorm (Late much!!). Havent instaled Soulstorm yet, cuz I'm owning campaign with Tau. Tau are imba.

 

[Warhunter]

Yeah. I totally agree Hail, Tau owns the DC campaign.
Andm ake sure you control the space port. You can move your troops any were, and attack. But you can´t directly attack "Bases".

 

[Mechanical Man]

Tau suck in DC campaign tbh. You can't even get that territory which lets you build forward bases. Probably because you don't get enough firewarriors, you must rely on honor guard ones which is not enough.

 

[HailFireer]

Bah that mission was easy.

 

[Velmarshal]

On, easy.

 

[Pyramidhe@d]

i dont know. depends what difficulty you were playing. i tried playing from easy to hard. easy and normal were pretty doable but hard was as it says "hard" and i havent clocked it. i am chaos so i am really far away from "bulwark" i think it is called. i only managed to kill necron.

 

[HailFireer]

Velm, it was normal. Its just that most of you guys are used to being able to quicky rebuild your army in case of a defeat. As for Hard I didnt play yet. When I finished playing DC I went on to soulstorm. Tau again. They are perfict for my playstile. Lots of firepower that kills uickly and speed and good tanking units (Eldar are simular but theyr firepower relays on artilery stilr (fire prism) while Tau have Hammerheads that pack uite a punch).

 

[Velmarshal]

It is easy because broadside suit doesn't have 5825hp.

 

[Crusad3r91]

Well, I don't remember the exact HPs of the Broadside but in the campaign (if I remember well) the player's units have doubled HPs on normal. On easy their units have 3 times their normal HPs while enemy units are 1/3 or such. On hard everyone (player and enemies) have 100% HPs and AI is set on Insane (I remember that when I played the Soulstorm campaign with IG on Hard xD).

 

[Velmarshal]

250% hp on easy to be exact.

 

[HailFireer]

Hm. I would have gueat that easy is your units boosted, normal - that everything is like in a normal skirmish, and hard - your enamies hp boosted..

 

[HailFireer]

Well finished campaign with Tau. Now with who to play. Orcs look tempting. Stomp em all!!!

 

[HailFireer]

Ok. I have a problem ppl. I dled it, instaled and everything seams to be ok. But when I run Dark Crusade, and go to the game manager, the list is empty. There even isnt a normal DoW: Dark Crusade showing. Anyone have an idea?

 

[Warhunter]

You mean the mod? well, that's my fault, i'm sorry, but i gave you wrong link. This is the right, I have tested by my self. http://dawnofwar.filefront.com/file/Inquisition_Daemonhunt_Mod;80262

 

[Crusad3r91]

That is for Dark Crusade; here's the link for the Soulstorm version:
Inquisition Daemonhunt for Soulstorm

Moreover:
Steel Legion mod for DC (just install it in the SS folder and DL the upgrade)
Steel Legion SS update
Tyranid Mod 0.45 for SS
Witch Hunters mod BETA for DC
Combiner mod for SS
So you should have the original 9 races + Daemonhunters + Tyranids + Steel Legion + Witch Hunters = 13 races \o/

 

[HailFireer]

Ah ty. I shall instal vers for soulstorm. If I wanted to instal DC inquisition I would have to reinstall the whole thing.
And are you sure that DC mods wil lwork fo SS?

 

[Gespenst]

http://files.filefront.com/A+Few+More+Heretics+20/;12342349;/fileinfo.html - A few more heritics. Install like you would other mods.

It adds Traitor Guardsmen as a race and rebalances chaos space marines.

 

[HailFireer]

Like Chaos isnt already imbalanced. AI of Chais m. is beter then of others.