Warhammer 40k RTS

[Tau Empire]

, do you've any idea how much space sounds add to a map? Including the fact that optimizers make maps with imported sounds bigger.

As for the imported models, this map needs them. Warcraft 3 units don't suite the Warhammer 40.000 K theme at all, they are not futuristic at all.

And like Tau Empire said, add a changelog.

We could always wait for Starcraft 2 but that would be in a year or two before it releases... the only import I would probably put in it are bullets and shells, and the models that doesn't even closely resemble like a warcraft one.

Ok I tried this updated version of it there are still problems, I've only tried Necrons

Terrain: Still the same, but that ain't much of a problem anymore

Abilities: Taking it is easy, holding it will be hard why not just rename it capture point?

Spelling Grammar: You spelled Requisition wrong

Units: The major problem with this, a Super Monolith.... they couldn't start with a offline monolith... then upgrade to a full operational monolith. There are only 5 units in the Necron race plus you can build infinite Necron Lords instead of one. If you were doing a Apocalypse game I understand but still... I have notice there are no Space Marines unless the Imperium are space marines?

Suggestions: The loading screen is a bit messed up sorry but the words are all scrambled and need to be in paragraphs instead of one giant paragraph. Put up a board to select your race instead of typing -choose (race) to make it professional if you know what I mean. 4 MB file size, probably could be reduced I mean Necron Warriors can be skeleton soliders if you wanted.

 

[[K40$]-Spectre]

We could always wait for Starcraft 2 but that would be in a year or two before it releases... the only import I would probably put in it are bullets and shells, and the models that doesn't even closely resemble like a warcraft one.

, yeah, to bad we still have to wait so long for Starcraft 2 :|.

 

[spoofone]

I have notice there are no Space Marines unless the Imperium are space marines?

The imperium are imperial guard and space marines.

 

[Ghost765]

why not make it like DoW II and have like 1 hq building where you can train units, and make the game focus more around invdividual units/squads rather than having entire techtrees.

 

[-TYRANID-]

I didnt find DoW][][ as fun as complete first one and just saying were not taking all ideas of dow...

 

[[K40$]-Spectre]

why not make it like DoW II and have like 1 hq building where you can train units, and make the game focus more around invdividual units/squads rather than having entire techtrees.

, because that one sucked asses and still does.

 

[Zelda.Alex]

Improve the details of the map. Mentioning if it is meant for multiplayer will be helpful as the suggested players is not helping.
A good example of details will be Winter Island Survival - The Hive Workshop - A Warcraft III Modding Site

 

[Ghost765]

i personally think an rts should focus around it's units and how well they perform, instead of creating a gignourmous base with with 10 billion chapel barracks. but thats just what i think.

 

[wereguy2]

DoW 2 sucks, I say you should add MORE buildings and get proper tech trees going.

 

[spoofone]

why not make it like DoW II and have like 1 hq building where you can train units, and make the game focus more around invdividual units/squads rather than having entire techtrees.

I have never played any of the DOW's but tyranid has so if tyranid does his part in this, questions like that should be answered by tyranid.

I think squads are kind of a good idea but i have no idea what the triggers are to do that so unless someone can update me on that....it aint happening.

 

[[K40$]-Spectre]

i personally think an rts should focus around it's units and how well they perform, instead of creating a gignourmous base with with 10 billion chapel barracks. but thats just what i think.

, well that's true, but in DOW2 you can only build 1, and only 1 building, would be fun if you could build around 3 or 4.

 

[Tau Empire]

DoW 2 sucks, I say you should add MORE buildings and get proper tech trees going.

Your a genius lol, ya a Tech tree is needed for this map cause honestly there isn't a tech tree to begin with.

You don't need to add buildings like in DoW but you can invent a couple of buildings, like for example: Tyranid buildings can be Brood Nest, Genestealers cave or something like that.

 

[spoofone]

You don't need to add buildings like in DoW but you can invent a couple of buildings, like for example: Tyranid buildings can be Brood Nest, Genestealers cave or something like that.

I would add more buildings but the file size is to big and there arnt really any buildings in war3 that really would look right.

 

[Ghost765]

you dont build any buildings in DoW II. Your HQ/Barracks is already built. That way you can get straight to capturing/fighting the enemy.

 

[[K40$]-Spectre]

you dont build any buildings in DoW II. Your HQ/Barracks is already built. That way you can get straight to capturing/fighting the enemy.

, yeah, but I meant it would be more fun if you could build like 3 extra buildings, like guard towers and barricades.

 

[spoofone]

, yeah, but I meant it would be more fun if you could build like 3 extra buildings, like guard towers and barricades.

There are guard towers for every race but their not called "guard towers"

 

[wereguy2]

You really need to fix this completely, otherwise it WILL be rejected D:

 

[[K40$]-Spectre]

There are guard towers for every race but their not called "guard towers

", I was talking about DOW2.

 

[spoofone]

Any more ideas for the map? That might help to make it better, and iv done the best i could with the icons.

 

[Tau Empire]

Well let's see... new units, a better techtree, new buildings, try reducing the map size if your not gonna use the ocean, maybe new races, and no you don't need imports to make a good game seriously it's Gameplay people want not graphics.

 

[wereguy2]

I suggest squishing the models (google Wc3 Model Squisher) and optimizing the map (If you haven't already)

 

[spoofone]

Well let's see... new units, a better techtree, new buildings, try reducing the map size if your not gonna use the ocean, maybe new races, and no you don't need imports to make a good game seriously it's Gameplay people want not graphics.

I added more techtrees and some new buildings and the map is as small as it can get.

I suggest squishing the models (google Wc3 Model Squisher) and optimizing the map (If you haven't already)

I would optimize the map but the programs dont work with vista ((((

 

[boombox0648]

I like it but maybe you could add an AI for computers for more challenge and you could use pyramidhead and all other modeler's warhammer models for the races with no heros and you could add a few more units and tower defenses

 

[Warhunter]

I would optimize the map but the programs dont work with vista ((((

Wrong, I have vista and it works fine for me.

 

[spoofone]

I like it but maybe you could add an AI for computers for more challenge and you could use pyramidhead and all other modeler's warhammer models for the races with no heros and you could add a few more units and tower defenses

Whenever i host the map and this was when there was no heros they were like this sucks theres no heros so im not removing the heros. but i could try to add more towers if i could optimize the map )

Wrong, I have vista and it works fine for me.

ok the model squsher works i think but how do u squish the map????????

 

[Warhunter]

hm.. That's really wierd...
It shouldn't be that, try download it again.

 

[spoofone]

i did and the war3 model squisher works but when i squish the models and add them to the map its not any different size

 

[Warhunter]

Did you dl the Wc3 optimizer?
Wc3MapOptimizer 4.0 - The Hive Workshop - A Warcraft III Modding Site This one?

Whit this tool, you optimize your maps, not models.. You open your map and just optimize it.

 

[spoofone]

no i dled the 1.00 off of google and i think it works but on the import manager it says that it takes up the same space so im confused about that. I updated the map so it is suposidly optimized so you can take a look if you want.

I tried the 4.00 one and i have no idea how it works.

 

[Warhunter]

So, your problam only optimizes the models? This program I gave you, Optimizes almost everything and removes unnecessary data.

 

[spoofone]

hehe i got it working thanks for the link
Keep those sugestions comming )))

 

[Vosty]

No credits, not really great in the first place.
And the Icons? Why! Why did you do that!!
Fix them and give credits. Then you might recieve a 2/5 instead of a 1.568676/5
Warhammer 40k rules, but this map, not so much.
I give it a 1.568676/5 (I know a big number to handle =D)

 

[spoofone]

No credits, not really great in the first place.
And the Icons? Why! Why did you do that!!
Fix them and give credits. Then you might recieve a 2/5 instead of a 1.568676/5
Warhammer 40k rules, but this map, not so much.
I give it a 1.568676/5 (I know a big number to handle =D)

Wow fail? there is credits the credits were on the loading screen and i just put them on the map details so there are no confusions witch you apparently had,there are no more icons atm i have put in all that i know exist on hive...i said that in earlier posts. I wasnt completely going off the WH40k rules and the map still isnt completely done. Pretty much everything you said was wrong i have said why in earlier posts or i have already put in the map.

 

[-TYRANID-]

Q(-_-Q)

No credits, not really great in the first place.
And the Icons? Why! Why did you do that!!
Fix them and give credits. Then you might recieve a 2/5 instead of a 1.568676/5
Warhammer 40k rules, but this map, not so much.
I give it a 1.568676/5 (I know a big number to handle =D)

No wonder you have no rep. Thats all that need be said.

 

[Warhunter]

No credits, not really great in the first place.
And the Icons? Why! Why did you do that!!
Fix them and give credits. Then you might recieve a 2/5 instead of a 1.568676/5
Warhammer 40k rules, but this map, not so much.
I give it a 1.568676/5 (I know a big number to handle =D)

You are BAD at reading loading screens.

 

[-TYRANID-]

Hmm i am sorry sir but you have just recived a tri-pwnd

YEZ NEW WORD BTW u made it up when you just got tri-pwnd


Sorry mate coundnt resisdeededeed

 

[wereguy2]

D:
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[Warhunter]

Well.. Now vosty, the 3 owned guy, got one rep. If you look at his profile, you can see why he has one. xD

 

[spoofone]

nice one Warhunter he got owned so many times i cant count them )))

 

[Vosty]

Oh, when the loading screen is on. I USALLLY USE THE BATHROOM INSTEAD OF WAIT.
Thanks guys for tri-pwning me. I will try better next time.
By the way, I give it about 3/5 for update, still room for improvement.
An I a, ExTrEmElY SoRrY!!!

 

[spoofone]

keep it up with the sugestions =D. I guess i forgive you vosty for now....

 

[-TYRANID-]

Eh spoof i was talking to some people such as vosty and they think that it should take a lil longer teching and building an army.

 

[wereguy2]

Look, this map is still not nearly good enough to be approved...
You must fix EVERY tooltip and icon, as well as the fail techtrees, which allow stronger units to be built initially, and make weaker ones require researches.

 

[spoofone]

we can do that now cus of the bnet update give us some time!!!

 

[comando123]

alright guys im gonna try it out.. constructive criticism may be incoming but ill let u know what i think.

ok i tryed out 3 different races ill give you my suggestions for each one that i tried. (keep in mind im not familiar with the WH40k universe and how certain things work) the races have nice models but if the game play doesnt match up then =*(

Necron
these guys seem cool but there seemed to be a number of bugs
bugs/problems
-There is no info option at the begining for the necron
-The main building can move like a unit that needs to be fixed
-The main building had a load units command why is that here?
-The main building had soooo much stuff in it i couldnt upgrade it to the final stage (fully upgraded monolith)
-Various tool tips errors all over, could use more information and explanation on what certain units do
-u did not have to research the "back again" skill on all units that needs to be fixed...
-lack of unit diversity (about 5~7 units total) work on this tech tree
-Tyranids share the reincarnation trait try to make the races unique in these abilities

Tyranid
not alot of problems out of these guys they seem to be more developed on the tech tree side,
bugs/problems
cant remember much on these guys there were some small things but just work on tool tips, information about stuff
-still needs some work tho.

Chaos Marines
these guys are intresting but once again need research to get certain units
bugs/problems
once again a more developed race but some things i didnt like.
-the defiler's cannon is not up to par ( targeted a group of my own marines and not much happened) could add a knock back if you wanted
-more information and tool tips of course
-the different marines all seemed the same other then a few projectiles
-certain units didnt seem to be any better then the weaker versions (i.e. heavy bolter/heavy plasma ect.)
-they did have a hero infact 2 there was a daemon hero and the raptor unit.




OVERALL
1/5
this game has potential but compared to another altered melee that ran very well this needs work.
suggestions
-add some more terraint to the map the triangle is cool bt there is so much water
-possibly add a navy?
-there simply arent enough buildings, uve cut down the techtree type gameplay heavily here since you only upgrade your main building so many times and all of your upgrades and new/best units are located in the main buildings.
-this is an altered melee but it doesnt give much strategy trying to build 3 buildings.

i hope this helps a bit but i cant possibly go into detail on every little thing i see just keep working on it guys. nice models but

 

[spoofone]

uber comment thanks for all the info
-we are making a new super version now cus theres more map space from the bnet update
----NECRONS----
-we are making more techtrees
-the fully activated monolith is supost to move its the tank for necrons
-we are fixing the necron research and making more reserches
-fixing the summoning core
-adding the flying feat to monolith
-and much much more
-making necron less OP
----TYRANIDS----
-some more researches
-maybe a few more units
-fixing ripper swarms
-making synapsis have more penaltys
----CHAOS SPACE MARINES----
-make defiler cannon more powerfull
-possably fixing units
-buff them up some
----IMPERIUM----
-make heros
-despoof arty
-ballance guardsmen and space marines
-make earthshaker round and battlecannon more powerful
----ORK----
-a lot needs to be done we know
----OVERALL----
-fix all tooltips
-fix all infos
-make flags pinged
-add research buildings to all races
-maybe add 6 more players (very unlikely in this next patch)
-and LOTS more
-----------------------------------------------------------
RELEASE DATE: TBD

 

[wereguy2]

No.
Do NOT add things, for now you should focus on the tooltips and general messiness.
If you want, I could make you some rudimentary screenshot-icons of some of the models.

 

[comando123]

yeah i wouldnt add anymore units for now id fix the icons an tool tips first, then go onto balancing the current units you have on the game (adding more units will only make this process take longer.)

main things would be certain abilities need more creative names,
the flag conquer thing needs to be renamed to "take flag" or something like that.

if you can manage to fix all that and add the units in one patch thats possible but you honestly need to fix whats there before you add new content.

 

[spoofone]

No, just no...we are doing this over a long period of time. We are going to release a patch with all this added, we are first going to fix all the tooltips, icons and info. Then the other stuff...The release date is still TBD.

 

[wereguy2]

Look, this map is not good-quality enough to be approved. Fix the bugs, and release a version then. Work on other things later.