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WarCraft: The Movie

Discussion in 'Warcraft Discussion' started by The_wand_mirror, Jan 18, 2007.

  1. OutsiderXE

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    I only looked a bit at the clips and got even more excited. the orcs look great. i am looking forward to seeing two of my babies in action (lord of the clans and the last guardian)
     
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    Well first screenings were positive also for Batman vs Superman and it didn't turn out excatly great.

    I so wish this movie is good, but everything I saw so far doesn't excatly point in that direction.

    Welp, hope dies last
     
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    The vast majority of people are incapable of remaining objective about things like this. If they go in fully expecting something to suck, it will suck for them no matter how much it actually DOESN'T, because they'll be too focused on their own fears and focusing on the imperfections in the movie rather than the whole thing.
     
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  5. OutsiderXE

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    Going to see it in 14 hours from now (germany release)! you can post any questions you have
     
  6. Zwiebelchen

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    Lol, it's almost time? Totally forgot about that. Now I need to find someone who goes to the theatre with me.
     
  7. StoPCampinGn00b

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    2500 imdb users compared to 9 critics shown on Rotten Tomato. Crazy difference.
     

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    From my experience the imdb rating only counts after about 30.000-40.000 votes. In the beginning it's mostly fanboys voting 10/10 and then some haters voting 1/10.

    On the other hand a professional critic doesn't mean much either. I mean, they get paid (aka are forced) to watch a movie (lol) and then its their job to nitpick about as much as possible. Why should their opinion hold more value than my own or that of my friends. The only difference is that they can write better. And how many of them actually know Warcraft, and I mean besides WoW (lol there are actually 1/10 votings because its a Warcraft movie and not a WoW movie, whatever that means...).

    But, I get that we all want this movie to be good (as successful) so we are looking for any positive feedback we can get. My advice is to focus on the positive reviews. Don't let negativity influence your viewing experience.

    3 more hours. Oh, Khadgar. Oh, Draka. 3 more hours ans I'm home with you. :D
     
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    A professional critic is not a nitpicker.

    Good critics help put things into perspective. They give their audiences the necessary keys to understand things as a global whole. The more things they have seen and understood before, the more keys they can give.

    Since it is part of their full time job to write reviews, they may get good at it over time.
     
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    =D nice!.
    I have to wait until June 30, it's my own war against spoilers. :goblin_cry:
     
  11. OutsiderXE

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    For this movie none of us need them. We are going to watch it anyway. In my opinion it's better to do that unbiased. ... Getting ready now. Counting minutes from now on. Exactly 100 :D
     
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    Watched it. good movie. more details tomorrow
     
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    No idea what "us" means, nor why one's review would prevent anyone from seeing / listening to whatever he/she wants. Good critics give an honest and fair view of what they see. They rely on facts. They evaluate things for what they are. They talk about how something can be of historical / political / societal / cultural significance. They help put things into perspective. Everybody needs them.

    Now, *that* leads to biased points of view from the very start

    Looking forward to your honest and documented review of the movie
     
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    Watched it now. NO SPOILERS POST
    gotta say I'm positively surprised! The trailer didn't really catch me at all and my expectations were really low.

    I think the movie strikes a decent balance between the old school (WC1&2) gritty visuals and the bright cartoonish style of the later games. I was really worried that there would be too much humanising of the orcs, but it struck a nice balance here aswell between Gul'dan, Durotan, and everyone else.
    I think the battle scenes could have been more sophisticated though. I mean more tactical maneuvering would have been a nice improvement. Seeing thousands of footmen charging towards the orcs seemed a little unintelligent to me, but then again, that's what most movies in this genre would do.
     
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    I just came back to the Hive to see what people think about the movie. It's already in the theaters here in the Philippines. Gonna see it on the weekend!

    Glad to see a fan is giving an honest feedback! So far, I've seen critiques bashing the movie and even comparing it to Super Mario Bros.! I am skeptical about a Warcraft movie especially when I saw the trailer after trailer (yes, the dub step one). But in time, I watched the featurettes on YouTube and it was looking better imo.
     
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    Sure, glad you liked it :)

    Well the movie sure has it's limits and I somewhat agree with one critique who wrote that it lacked the "poetry" of the Lord of the Rings movies. 'Somewhat' only, because I don't want a Warcraft movie to be like LOTR. What I do think the movie lacks is more scenes which - like LOTR (especially Fellowship of the Ring) - give a sense of adventure and immersion in a huge living fantasy world. There is some of it through a few travel scenes, but these are quite limited. Overall the 'in your face' style of this Warcraft movie justified it's more shallow parts: It doesn't pretend to be "oh so deep", and, at the same time, it does take itself seriously enough to not turn into a cheap comedy.
     
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    I watched the movie with two friends today.
    It was a solid movie, nothing mind blowing but it was god damn entertaining.
    I wont spoil anything but there are quite a few differences between the movie and official lore, nothing large enough to impact the overall story but I want to point it out because even if you know the lore you'll not be able to predict everything in the movie which is a plus.

    Me and my friends agreed on 8/10 being a fairly accurate rating for all of us.
     
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    When I step in the theater I was anxious, really expected it to be fairly serviceable and I just want a good video game film. The movie is pretty great! Pacing between orcs and humans are given enough screen time, CGI is really well done overall it blended better watching the entire movie than a broken sequence from the trailer.

    The action is pretty violent for PG-13/R-13 movie which I really liked that about it, it pushed the rating system to the limit, the magic effects and battle scenes are just pure eye candy. And most of all, the film is story-wise; there are some small deviations from the games but then again, Blizzard is fond of retconning its lore. Narrative feels a lot like Dawn of the Planet of the Apes and at some point it is 'better'. Human characters are more charismatic and stylish in this movie than the Apes, and orc characters are diverse enough to identify them by motives and conflicts within them.

    The setting is grounded, races are mostly orcs and humans did and I think they did a good job juggling between perspective. The only real problem in this movie is nearing of the final act, its really cramped and feels even rushed it fell flat in the end;

    SPOILERS
    That scene Lothar killing Blackhand in one fell swoop in a duel is complete BS.


    Overall I did enjoy the movie, so did my family. I give 8.5/10 for this.
     
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    Lol, that spoiler, though. But after I imagined that, that is a complete BS indeed.
     
  20. Zwiebelchen

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    The movie is out for 1 week now, so I'd like to share my review.

    I'll split it up in a spoiler-free and a spoiler part, for you guys who haven't watched it yet (and all you poor US citizens who still need to wait 3 days for release ;) ) ...



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    Spoiler-free
    Overall the movie was alright. It certainly didn't blow my mind, but it wasn't bad either. The CGI was actually pretty well done and the orcs looked brutish and convincing enough for me. Ironicly enough: the CGI orcs actually looked much more real that some of the armors worn by the humans - and those weren't even CGI!

    Let's start with the elephant in the room, though:
    The pacing. Warcraft suffers from the attempt to press one entire game and three books into just a single 2-hour movie. Everything felt really rushed and the viewer barely had a chance to get to know these characters. The only two characters that felt a bit more fleshed-out were Khadgar and Durotan.
    Other than that, the movie had some random-ass scenes that just didn't do anything for the plot, yet wasted precious time they could have invested to flesh out the main characters more.

    The movie could have used some cuts from the source material here and there. There was just too much going on for the sake of continuity that wasn't needed to deliver the story.
    I know that this was made by a fan of the Warcraft universe, but in doing so, the makers sacrificed the possibility to introduce new people to the franchise...

    I was there with a friend of mine and she was like "Huh? What the hell is going on?" the entire movie. This movie is absolutely not recommended for people that don't know Warcraft. This is for fans only, because many important things happening on screen do not get explained properly.

    These are basicly my major gripes. Let's get to the good points now:
    Some nerd-gags are spot-on. I almost laughed my ass off at a certain ... spell ... that Khadgar used in one of the scenes. You'll know what I mean when you see it. ;)
    The CGI is great. Actually better than in most DC or marvel movies.
    I'm not a fan of loads of CGI, but in this case it's acceptable, since there is hardly a way they could have pulled this off with just practical effects alone.
    The orcs just looked fantastic.
    I loved how they tried to stick super close to the source material on many of the locations. For example, the front of Stormwind with the iconic Griphon landing spot or Duskwood and Ironforge.
    I also liked the actors they selected. They gave it their best to make even the most Mary-sueish characters (that's blizzard writing in the first games for you) at least a bit interesting. Garona delivered a decent performance (except for some plot issues I will discuss below) and the Durotan performance was really convincing aswell.

    So, my final verdict? I'd say this is a solid 7/10. Blizzard and Universal get a pass from me for making a sequel. I definitely want to see a part II and part III covering the second and third game.
    Is it a breathtaking masterpiece? No. But then again, nobody expected that. You can tell that the plot suffers a lot from trying to please the franchise nerds, making the movie inaccessable for outsiders.

    But let's go into the details, shall we?
    Spoilers!
    Murlocs! It was so iconic and cringeworthy at the same time that I just couldn't stop laughing when I heard the Wrglglglgl!
    But what exactly was the point of the Ironforge scene other than trying to please the nerds? It wasted perfectly good 3 minutes that they could have spend on building up other core elements in the story or ... explain things. Everyone would have been fine with the Stormwind army using guns. It's fantasy for christ's sake.
    It was cool to see Ironforge, I admit that. But with all the other flaws in the story, it was just wasted potential.
    The Garona plot suffered from the WoW retcons. She didn't mention a human heritage in her dialogue, but it was sure as hell implied in the movie, which wouldn't make sense, even if she didn't know the truth. And the love-plot with Lothar felt super rushed and forced. It wasn't even needed for the story. A friendship would have sufficed to flesh out her motives?

    And what the hell was that council thing? Was that supposed to show me why the dwarves and elves didn't support Stormwind on the war against the horde? If so, they actually achieved the opposite: they literally put a spotlight on one of the biggest logical flaws in the story instead of just trying to hide it under the carpet.

    And then there was ... polymorph. I wasted an entire mouth full of coke in that moment... to the regrets of the guy sitting in front of me. It was glorious. At least if they do a movie for the nerds, they gotta do it right. ;)

    What was that Medivh transformation? He looked like a demonhunter? Is that a WoW-retcon? It was super weird and even I couldn't explain it to my friend, and I played all the games. >_>

    ... and that black stone thingy with the old woman inside ... was that supposed to be Nozdormu? I didn't know what the heck was going on and what's more: I didn't understand why that was neccesary. Why include that and waste time that could be used on the characters?

    That's all for now. More to come. :)
     
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