[Altered Melee] Warcraft I: Orcs & Humans

[loktar]

Warcraft: Orcs & Humans

I'm making a WC1 tech tree, which I intend to implement as new melee races in http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/tools-560/warcraft-iii-all-one-245101/.

Some abilities aren't finished/implemented, default WC3 heroes are still used, AI and balancing haven't been tested at all, and many resources are still missing.
When that stuff is in a more finished state, I'll improve the terrain a bit

The intention is to make the tech tree like it was in WC3 all along. Ideally it should look like it was created by Blizzard, so it's seamless with the WC3 tech trees.
I also plan to include WC1 tech trees for the Night Elf and Undead. After that I'd like to include WC2 tech trees (with upgrades from WC1->WC2->WC3), and perhaps additional races if possible.

Credits+rep for any help

I've already bookmarked quite a few resources for future use, but I'm only adding things one by one as I get to them.


Test Map

Known Issues

Misc:

• Heroes are missing, using WC3 heroes for now(1)
• AI, balancing, multiplayer not extensively tested
• Haven't put any thought into soundsets or advanced UI settings

Orc:

• Unholy Armor is missing(2)
• Summon Spiders is unfinished
• Poison Cloud has Disease Cloud buff instead of Poison Cloud buff
• Poison cloud's model stays there after it's duration has ended (DrarenThiralas)
• Farms don't have collision models, so they can be built on top of other buildings (DrarenThiralas)
• Daemons are probably too weak for their cost (DrarenThiralas)

Human:

• Summon Scorpions is unfinished
• Rain of Fire too weak (DrarenThiralas)
• Elementals too weak (DrarenThiralas)
• Elementals tooltip damage wrong (DrarenThiralas)

(1) For the Humans I'm thinking of including a Champion and an Apprentice based on Lothar and Khadgar from OutsiderXE's The Last Guardian (to be included in WC3: All in One); for the Orcs I'm thinking of including an Assassin based on Garona (also from TLG); more ideas more than welcome
(2) Unholy Armor: make target unit temporarily invulnerable for half HP

Tech Trees & Screenshots

Orc

Human

Missing resources

Buildings

Units

Upgrades

Tree

Red: Required by ->

Details

Great Hall

Farm

Barracks

Altar of Storms

Lumber Mill

Blacksmith

Kennels

Temple of the Damned

Watch Tower

Production
Units:

• Peon

Screenshot

Production

Original model by John Drake and xXm0RpH3usXx, from Dawn of Chaos:
http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/...ld-gather-ye-resources-mod-compendium-171062/

Model edits, icon by loktar

Units:

• Grunt
• Spearman
• Raider
• Catapult

Production
Heroes

Production
Upgrades:

• Upgrade Spear Strength 1-3

Production
Upgrades:

• Upgrade Axe Strength 1-3
• Upgrade Shield Strengh 1-3

Production
Upgrades:

• Breed Faster Wolves 1-2
• Ensnare

Production
Units:

• Necrolyte
• Warlock

Upgrades:

• Necrolyte Adept/Master Training
• Warlock Adept/Master Training

Screenshot

Model by RedXIII (WC2 War Tower):
http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/models-530/wciiorcwartower-138953/

Icon by loktar:
http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/icons-541/btnorcwatchtower-245237/

Tree

Red: Required by ->

Details

Peon

Grunt

Spearman

Raider

Catapult

Necrolyte

Warlock

Screenshot

Abilities

Standard WC3 Peon.

• Harvest Gold and Lumber
• Repair
• Build:
  • Great Hall
  • Farm
  • Barracks
  • Altar of Storms
  • Lumber Mill
  • Blacksmith
  • Kennels
  • Temple of the Damned
  • Watch Tower

Screenshot

Model, texture by loktar

Screenshot

Abilities

Standard WC3 Raider.

• Ensnare (Requires Ensnare)

Screenshot

Model by Kitabatake:
http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/models-530/catapult-v1-121016/

Abilities

• Shadow Spear
• Raise Dead
• Dark Vision (Requires Necrolyte Adept Training)
• Unholy Armor (Requires Necrolyte Master Training)

Screenshot

Abilities

Model, icon by loktar:
Icon: http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/icons-541/btnwarlockwc1-247950/

Fireball icon by Dalharukn (FlameBolt):
http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/icons-541/btnflamebolt-248352/

• Fireball
• Summon Spiders
• Poison Cloud (Requires Warlock Adept Training)
• Summon Daemon (Requires Warlock Master Training)

Tree

Red: Required by ->
Blue: Applies to ->

Buildings

Units

Upgrades

Tree

Red: Required by ->

Details

Town Hall

Farm

Barracks

Church of Light

Lumber Mill

Blacksmith

Stables

Arcane Tower

Scout Tower

Production
Units:

• Peasant

Screenshot

Model, icon by loktar

Screenshot

Production

Original model by John Drake and xXm0RpH3usXx, from Dawn of Chaos:
http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/...ld-gather-ye-resources-mod-compendium-171062/

Model edits, icon by loktar

Units:

• Footman
• Archer
• Knight
• Catapult

Production
Heroes

Screenshot

Production

Original model by John Drake and xXm0RpH3usXx, from Dawn of Chaos:
http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/...ld-gather-ye-resources-mod-compendium-171062/

Model edits, icon by loktar

Upgrades:

• Upgrade Arrow Strength 1-3

Screenshot

Production

Model, icon by loktar

Upgrades:

• Upgrade Sword Strength 1-3
• Upgrade Shield Strength 1-3

Production
Upgrades:

• Breed Faster Horses 1-2
• Cleaving Mace

Production
Units:

• Cleric
• Conjurer

Upgrades:

• Cleric Adept/Master Training
• Conjurer Adept/Master Training

Screenshot

Standard WC3 Scout Tower.

Tree

Red: Required by ->

Details

Peasant

Footman

Archer

Knight

Catapult

Cleric

Conjurer

Screenshot

Abilities

Standard WC3 Peasant.

• Harvest Gold and Lumber
• Repair
• Build:
  • Town Hall
  • Farm
  • Barracks
  • Church of Light
  • Lumber Mill
  • Blacksmith
  • Stables
  • Arcane Tower
  • Scout Tower

Screenshot

Model, icon by loktar:
Icon: http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/icons-541/btnfootmanwc1visor-247265/

Screenshot

Abilities

Model, icon by loktar:
Icon: http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/icons-541/btnknightwc1-247149/

Mace model by Sunchips:
http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/models-530/two-handed-spiked-mace-229218/

Cleaving Mace icon by Pyramidhe@d (Marble Mace):
http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/icons-541/btnmarblemace-146282/

• Cleaving Mace (Requires Cleaving Mace)

Screenshot

Model by AndrewOverload519:
http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/models-530/human-catapult-230842/

Icon by AndrewOverload519:
http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/icons-541/btnhumancatapult-230843/

Screenshot

Abilities

Model, texture by the Warcraft I Conversion team:
http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/...ld-gather-ye-resources-mod-compendium-171062/

• Holy Lance
• Heal
• Far Sight (Requires Cleric Adept Training)
• Invisibility (Requires Cleric Master Training)

Screenshot

Abilities

Model by AndrewOverload519 (Warcraft II Mage):
http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/models-530/warcraft-ii-mage-231395/

Hat model by -SkatinG_CoW- (Wizard's Hat):
http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/models-530/wizardshat-49074/

Scorpion model by -Grendel (Dune Scorpion):
http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/models-530/dune-scorpion-214308/

• Elemental Blast
• Summon Scorpions
• Rain of Fire (Requires Conjurer Adept Training)
• Summon Elemental (Requires Conjurer Master Training)

Tree

Red: Required by ->
Blue: Applies to ->

Orc

Human

Model+icon:

• Great Hall
• Farm
• Altar of Storms
• Lumber Mill
• Blacksmith
• Kennels
• Temple of the Damned
• Spearman
• All heroes
• Necrolyte
• Spider

Icon only:

• All upgrades except Ensnare
• Dark Vision, Unholy Armor
• Summon Spiders

Model+icon:

• Town Hall
• Church of Light
• Stables
• Arcane Tower
• Archer
• All heroes

Icon only:

• All upgrades except Cleaving Mace
• Cleric, Conjurer, Scorpion
• Holy Lance
• Elemental Blast, Summon Scorpions

Credits

Thanks:
Blizzard Entertainment, Dawn of Chaos, The Hive Workshop, Kam's Mod Compendium, WC3Campaigns, Wowpedia, WoWWiki

3D Art:
AndrewOverload519, -Grendel, John Drake, Kitabatake, loktar, RedXIII, -SkatinG_CoW-, Sunchips, WC1Con Team, xXm0RpH3usXx

2D Art:
AndrewOverload519, Dalharukn, Darkfang, loktar, Pyramidhe@d, WC1Con Team

 

[Garodar]

Great project man. I've always wanted to see Warcraft I & II lore and gameplay but I never knew how to get it. It's great now that you'll implement it into Warcraft 3. You have my support.

 

[loktar]

Thanks a lot! I'd like to implement WC2 techtrees into this too, so you can upgrade from WC1 to WC2, and then to WC3

 

[TaShadan]

Nice. The Dune scorpion looks strange though and has no teamcolor.

 

[Heinvers]

Interesting. Your tech-tree takes shape quite good.

 

[loktar]

yeah, it's shaping up nicely just a few more things and it's basically done ^^

@tashadan: hmm hadn't thought about teamcolour. Maybe I'll just edit/reskin the WC3 scorpion model.

 

[loktar]

bump

big update to OP

hopefully some updates to the map soonish

 

[Heinvers]

Looks good now. Checking this from time to time

 

[loktar]

Thanks, I appreciate the support i went a bit ocd with the formatting though

 

[DrarenThiralas]

So, here's my opinion on your test map:
I.Orcs
1.Poison cloud's model stays there after it's duration has ended.
2.Farms don't have collision models, so they can be built on top of other buildings.
3.There's really no Temple of the Damned in Warcraft: Orcs & Humans.
4.Daemons are probably too weak for their cost.
5.Bloodlust stays forever after casting Summon Spiders
II.Humans
1.Rain of Fire's damage. Was that a joke?
2.Elementals are too weak too. (and their tooltip lies about damage)
3.Inner Fire stays forever after summoning scorpions

No offense, that's a nice map and all, I just tried to point out things you could improve.

 

[loktar]

Awesome, thanks for the feedback! No offense taken at all

About the Temple of the Damned - I renamed some of the buildings in order to accomodate hero production. The building that's named Altar of Storms now was named "Temple" (of the Damned) in WC1, and the current Temple of the Damned was just "Tower". The Tower looks a lot like the Temple of the Damned in WC2 (skull and all) so I renamed it to that The "Temple" looks more like an altar building, so I thought this switch was fitting.

Thanks for the feedback about the bugs and balancing. So far I've done almost nothing to address balancing

hopefully I'll have my computer set up properly soon, then I'll be able to fix some of this (and play your map )

 

[Cherrymage]

Cool project! Really waiting for it!
1) Rain of Fire's damage. LOL is the spell a joke?
2) Interesting tech-tree. Good luck on it.

"Huh huh huh!"

 

[loktar]

Cool, thanks! I should be picking up up on WC3 stuff again over the next 1-2 months ^^

 

[Kam]

How's this going?