View in 3D

[Deolrin]

http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/models-530/ragnar-flamebeard-240975/

 

[GhostWolf]

I have already told you that that model seems to have inverted normals, it isn't even relared to double sided layers. Can you two actually listen to me?

 

[Deolrin]

I don't know what that means. All I know is that it's impossible for faces to be invisible like that if I tick "Two-Sided" in the material - yes, even if the normals are inverted. They will simply be slightly darker than the rest.

 

[GhostWolf]

Is the layer set to double sided on the uploaded model? If so, I will check it when I return home.

Checked the model, when forced to use double sided layers the faces show correctly. Please don't report bad models as being buggy.

 

[GhostWolf]

Made the floor opaque in the WC3 viewer.

Added the mpq=PATH option to the SC2 viewer, so you can now view any model in the SC2 MPQs.
As the WC3 viewer, there is no way to access custom textures, can you think of any neat way to add support for that?

 

[Deolrin]

GhostWolf, something's wrong with your viewer nonetheless. Magos displays those faces as perfectly fine.

 

[GhostWolf]

If I remember correctly WC3ME calculates its own normals.
Since the viewer now has more features than WC3ME, I don't really care how models look in it. Does it show correctly in-game?

 

[Deolrin]

Should be.

 

[GhostWolf]

Should be is a nice sentiment. Does it or does it not?

 

[Deolrin]

No clue. PC is broken.

 

[DESTROYER123]

This thread became so big.
Impressed.

 

[GhostWolf]

• Added specular and normal maps.
• Now using specular data from the models.
• Added render modes.
  They will be replaced with check buttons that enable/disable specific features.
• Emissive maps will be applied after the render modes will change.
• Optimized animations.
• The light shape can now be seen above the model.

 

[DESTROYER123]

Good work.
+2rep

 

[GhostWolf]

• Made the render modes more useful and clear.
• Emissive is now applied.

Expect a more complex and feature-full interface at some point.

 

[muzzel]

Even though we have our little personal differences from time to time, i have to admit this tool is great. +rep

 

[GhostWolf]

• Second emissive layer is applied.
• Emissive-based team color is applied.
• Specularity is handled (more) correctly using values from the material.
• Added WIP transparency that probably looks nothing like in-game.
• Optimized CPU usage by sending far less repetitive data to the graphics card. This change has been added to the WC3 viewer too.

Other changes are not visual, but rather help in making it easier to add support for more types of material layers, with a couple of speed optimizations.

 

[GhostWolf]

• Fixed the way emissive layers are applied.
• Added the decal layer.
• Fixed the way texture coordinates are read.
• Added support for multiple texture coordinate sets.

Some examples that looked wrong previously:
http://www.hiveworkshop.com/model_viewer/sc2/?mpq=Assets/buildings/terran/barracks/barracks.m3
http://www.hiveworkshop.com/model_viewer/sc2/?mpq=Assets/units/protoss/voidray/voidray.m3
http://www.hiveworkshop.com/model_viewer/sc2/?mpq=Assets/Units/Zerg/Changeling/Changeling.m3

 

[TriggerHappy]

Rendering looks better than Warcraft III -.- (on the wc3 model viewer)

 

[GhostWolf]

GhostWolf, something's wrong with your viewer nonetheless. Magos displays those faces as perfectly fine.

Sorry, there was indeed an issue with the code, fixed it.

 

[GhostWolf]

I am in the middle of merging the two viewers.
While this means the code will eventually be better, there are issues regarding the style (borders, background, ground texture).
The issue is that the style can only be determined after the model is loaded and the format is checked.

Here are a few options:

1. Ditch the whole Nightelf/Terran themes and just put something else (what?).
2. Set the style with another parameter in the url, which will be set automatically by the Hive for any model opened through it (e.g. style=ne / style=terran).
3. Set the style properly after the model is loaded, but then the page will look bad until the model is indeed loaded.
4. Check the file format according to the file extension (.mdx / .m3) for p/mpq paths, and just use .mdx for q=ID, since there is still no way to see the models from the SC2 section.
   This is unlike the current check which checks the magic identifier at the beginning of the actual file data (MDLX / MD34).

Any thoughts about it? (or other options?)

In addition, implemented the collision objects to M3 files, so they can be seen with the collision objects button.

Here are test links:
http://www.hiveworkshop.com/model_viewer/v2/?mpq=Units/Creeps/AzureDragon/AzureDragon.mdx
http://www.hiveworkshop.com/model_viewer/v2/?mpq=Assets/buildings/terran/barracks/barracks.m3

 

[Deolrin]

2 and 4 sound the best.

 

[Ralle]

I have always wanted to make the viewer inline to sort of show up like this.

 

[GhostWolf]

Used option 4, since it allows the browser to cache the results better, and replaced the public viewer with the new one.

I think I'll remove the animation speed options since they are useless.

I have always wanted to make the viewer inline to sort of show up like this.

I am not sure how well browsers handle many <canvas>es with WebGL contexts, I'll make a test page and see.

 

[GhostWolf]

It appears like 16 is the common limit of WebGL contexts on PC browsers.

This test shows that performance-wise it works fine (at least on my PC), but this is not scalable.

Something more scalable will be to load multiple models in one viewer. If you'll design a way to do that through the site, I'll add support for it in my code.

Err...did you mean just being inside a box or a gallery?
If the former, make the HTML for it, and decide how it would load (when the page loads? when selected? an option in the user CP? other?).
Remember that the UI has nothing to do with the viewer itself, you can give input to the API in any way you like.

I did say from the beginning (what is it now, two years ago?) that I imagined it being at the same spot as the screenshot, with some button to switch between the two.

 

[Ralle]

I meant to make it sort of like an in-line popup. Not showing multiple viewers at once.

 

[GhostWolf]

You are welcome to create the HTML for that, not sure what you want from me.

 

[GhostWolf]

• Added badly looking world visibility modes:
  None, sky, sky + ground, sky + water.
• Changed the way that the camera works.
  Moving around with the right mouse button works again.
• Default zoom is deduced from the model extents (though they are far from accurate for most models).
• Put the whole code on github if it interests anyone.

 

[Footman16]

The View in 3D mode doesn't appear to be working on my Mac, anyway. I'm using Firefox and I tried it with Safari. I don't know what the problem could be but a fix would be appreciated.

 

[GhostWolf]

Post what the browser's console says (typically opened by pressing F12, might need a refresh after opening it).

 

[Ralle]

I am running Mac OS X 10.9 Mavericks. It works in Safari, Firefox and Chrome.
I am not sure if Safari has Web GL enabled by default, but if you go into Settings and enable the Developer menu, you can afterwards enable Web GL in the Developer menu.

 

[RED BARON]

The View in 3D mode doesn't appear to be working on my Mac, anyway. I'm using Firefox and I tried it with Safari. I don't know what the problem could be but a fix would be appreciated.

Running any form of script blocker? Not having updated your programs? Any anti virus/spamware/cross-script plugins? Also tested it with more than one model?

 

[Dr Super Good]

I am posting to confirm that since IE11 has been rolled out as a standard update, the View in 3D now works for IE users.

 

[Ralle]

That's awesome!

 

[RED BARON]

That's awesome!

You took the words out of my mouth.

Btw: Anyone knows if it works with Opera?

 

[Dr Super Good]

Btw: Anyone knows if it works with Opera?

Opera 12.00 or above (enable webGL by entering Enable WebGL in opera:config by setting the value to 1, and Enable Hardware Acceleration similarly, then restart the browser)

It is off by default (unlike IE) I think, although that will probably change in newer versions now that it is standard. Also it may need a reasonably modern computer that supports hardware accelerated browsing.

 

[RED BARON]

It is off by default (unlike IE) I think, although that will probably change in newer versions now that it is standard. Also it may need a reasonably modern computer that supports hardware accelerated browsing.

Okay, not that I usual run opera - but one of my smallest laptops is using it - so got me thinking

 

[Dr Super Good]

IE11 seems to have broken chat a bit. Hard to log into the chatrooms (hangs on the chat prepage when you press the join button). Some times it does join but chat is broken (no one seems to hear you and you never seem to join it, with any messages you type coming from your id number with no avatar.

 

[Ralle]

I will have to look into that, but let's keep this thread about the model viewer .