TrollSorcerer

[Moderator]

17:41, 21st Apr 2013
Misha:

jaffar approves

 

[Misha]

hey look, it's jaffar xD

it looks exotic, but i'm not really sure how troll and arabic match

EDIT: oh and, that snake could use being smaller in overall

 

[WindowsVistaSucks]

That staff is kind of big don't you think? If you were to execute it a little more, so it didn't stand out so much. Then this model wouldn't look so ridiculous.

 

[Lichkings slave]

Hehehe, I like the arabian look It looks cool I like the hat thingy, anyway maybe you should make the staff a bit smaller

 

[huy60vn]

Cool, before is witch, now you made a sorcerer.
Well, the trolls never have a snake wand, replace it. Somehow he is boring . And, he is a sorcerer, don't have dagger.
That is all about you need to fix it.

4/5

 

[Uncle Fester]

hey look, it's jaffar xD

it looks exotic, but i'm not really sure how troll and arabic match

EDIT: oh and, that snake could use being smaller in overall

Lol. Jaffar?

That staff is kind of big don't you think? If you were to execute it a little more, so it didn't stand out so much. Then this model wouldn't look so ridiculous.

Yeah, after so many guys requested that i guess it has to be made smaller.

Hehehe, I like the arabian look It looks cool I like the hat thingy, anyway maybe you should make the staff a bit smaller

You like the turban, don't you? Yeah, will do that on the next update.

Cool, before is witch, now you made a sorcerer.
Well, the trolls never have a snake wand, replace it. Somehow he is boring . And, he is a sorcerer, don't have dagger.
That is all about you need to fix it.

4/5

Why replace it? There's no rule that says trolls can't have snake staffs. Why boring? The dagger was inspirated from the Warlock's (the characters) from WoW (World of Warcraft). They also carry sometimes daggers in combination with a book or such. That aside, he's supposed to do sacrifices, which means the dagger is necessary for that.

 

[Mike]

Nice work

 

[Uncle Fester]

Nice work

thx a lot

 

[Khil]

The hat fit so well with Shadow Hunter's face! Nice choice!

 

[Uncle Fester]

The hat fit so well with Shadow Hunter's face! Nice choice!

thx a lot Actually, it's a turban, not a hat.

 

[DESTROYER123]

Awsome!!!!!
Coming from the far east!!!!
5/5

 

[Kyrbi0]

Jafar

Trolls & Snake Staffs

I own this so I know it's real

Come now. Snakes are a solid part of Jungle Troll lore. Just wait and see.

~~~

Not... bad. I'd have to see in-game. I'm not so sure about the posing (just seems sorta awkward), and while the Turban is fantastic, I don't know how I feel about it on a Troll. Still, creative.

 

[Uncle Fester]

Awsome!!!!!
Coming from the far east!!!!
5/5

thx a lot he's supposed to come from the southern jungle, not from the far east. Just added him a turban to make him look more mystical.

Jafar

Trolls & Snake Staffs

I own this so I know it's real

Come now. Snakes are a solid part of Jungle Troll lore. Just wait and see.

~~~

Not... bad. I'd have to see in-game. I'm not so sure about the posing (just seems sorta awkward), and while the Turban is fantastic, I don't know how I feel about it on a Troll. Still, creative.

thx for supporting me in this. thx a lot

 

[Misha]

jaffar is an evil grand-vizier/sorcerer in Disney's Aladin cartoon :] quite the villain, with typical Disney comic. as you can see above, he has the snake staff and turban :3

 

[Uncle Fester]

jaffar is an evil grand-vizier/sorcerer in Disney's Aladin cartoon :] quite the villain, with typical Disney comic. as you can see above, he has the snake staff and turban :3

oh, that's why you calledmy Troll Jaffar? Lol, just make him into a hero and name him Jaffar in your map and it will fit even more.

 

[Misha]

well.. I'm sure the model still needs tweaks to be officially hive-standard

 

[Uncle Fester]

well.. I'm sure the model still needs tweaks to be officially hive-standard

why that?

 

[Lichkings slave]

I disagree with Misha as I think the models is perfect as it is.

 

[WhiteDeath]

He has back abs hence forth known as babs. You should hide them with some skulls and voodoo masks placed on his back.
How I think you could improve it:
- it will look a lot better if you remove the dagger and the red particles and add a greenish glow to his R.Hand, that drips little green particles it will look like some poison thingy.
- add a similar poisonish glow to the mouth of the staff
- make his teeth a bit shorter
- make his legs longer - trolls have elongated bodies including their legs, it may seem hard but it is not actually that difficult -(in MDLVIS) just make them longer so that they go underground, move the knee and foot bones to fit properly, than select the entire mesh move it up so that the feet are at ground level and remember how much you moved it up, than in the sequence editor select the root bone, tick on multiselect, use select child vertices, select the root bone again and do a move that is the same amount that you remembered earlier. If there are some bones that are not attached to the root bone move them too, dont forget to move the overhead attachment up and make the staff longer to compensate for the elongation.

 

[Misha]

see.. whitedeath pointed it for you

 

[Lichkings slave]

Yeah but don't you think that its that bad, I mean sure its got those miner problems but nothing he can't fix, although I think white death pointed out quite a few issues but I'm sure he can fix them.

I mean no disrespect, sorry if it seems I do.

 

[Uncle Fester]

I disagree with Misha as I think the models is perfect as it is.

ty

He has back abs hence forth known as babs. You should hide them with some skulls and voodoo masks placed on his back.
How I think you could improve it:
- it will look a lot better if you remove the dagger and the red particles and add a greenish glow to his R.Hand, that drips little green particles it will look like some poison thingy.
- add a similar poisonish glow to the mouth of the staff
- make his teeth a bit shorter
- make his legs longer - trolls have elongated bodies including their legs, it may seem hard but it is not actually that difficult -(in MDLVIS) just make them longer so that they go underground, move the knee and foot bones to fit properly, than select the entire mesh move it up so that the feet are at ground level and remember how much you moved it up, than in the sequence editor select the root bone, tick on multiselect, use select child vertices, select the root bone again and do a move that is the same amount that you remembered earlier. If there are some bones that are not attached to the root bone move them too, dont forget to move the overhead attachment up and make the staff longer to compensate for the elongation.

i made the model for fitting into sacrifices, that's why he has a dagger and the red emitters. I don't rly get the point of this back abs somehow.
- you mean a constant glow in the snake's mouth or just during a few anims?
- hm his teeth shorter? That's an option for the next edit.
- his legs aren't that short IMO. Besides, he's an old one and the upper body is leaning forward anyways.
Thx for the advise, though i know how rescale and reposition bones and vertices in MDLVIS. I mainly work with MDLVIS, Magos and Milkshape.

see.. whitedeath pointed it for you

Yeah but don't you think that its that bad, I mean sure its got those miner problems but nothing he can't fix, although I think white death pointed out quite a few issues but I'm sure he can fix them.

I mean no disrespect, sorry if it seems I do.

Thx for believing so much in me. Jokes asside, why disrespect? There isn't anything respectless or rude in your post(s).

 

[WhiteDeath]

I meant that he has abs on his back, which is weird.

 

[huy60vn]

Lol. Jaffar?
Why replace it? There's no rule that says trolls can't have snake staffs. Why boring? The dagger was inspirated from the Warlock's (the characters) from WoW (World of Warcraft). They also carry sometimes daggers in combination with a book or such. That aside, he's supposed to do sacrifices, which means the dagger is necessary for that.

. It's my understanding. Really I never sense Troll have snake wand. And his mouth not really... good, you can use Shadow Hunter's mouth, it's very good.
You are really a modeller. ))

 

[Uncle Fester]

I meant that he has abs on his back, which is weird.

what are abs?

. It's my understanding. Really I never sense Troll have snake wand. And his mouth not really... good, you can use Shadow Hunter's mouth, it's very good.
You are really a modeller. ))

Ty

 

[Kyrbi0]

what are abs?

Abs

"Abs" is a euphemism for "ABdominal muscles", or the muscles that appear primarily across the stomach. He's saying you should have them on the front, but not on the back.

 

[Uncle Fester]

Abs

"Abs" is a euphemism for "ABdominal muscles", or the muscles that appear primarily across the stomach. He's saying you should have them on the front, but not on the back.

oh, thx for the explanation.

 

[Mgeterno11]

Really nice and well-edited. Good job, especially the hat. 5/5

 

[Bboy Moose]

Looking from the screenshot, his head is almost bigger than his head :O

haven't looked at it ingame though

 

[Gregory Tountas]

Looking from the screenshot, his head is almost bigger than his head :O

haven't looked at it ingame though

?!?

BTW good model again

 

[Uncle Fester]

Really nice and well-edited. Good job, especially the hat. 5/5

thx a lot

Looking from the screenshot, his head is almost bigger than his head :O

haven't looked at it ingame though

what?

?!?

BTW good model again

ty

 

[Toxic 75]

Uncle, I'm gonna hex you into something...

 

[~DARK~]

I Laughed A Lot When I Saw It ) . Its Very Fuuny . But Very Nice As Always Uncle

 

[Bboy Moose]

what?

i meant to say his hand looks bigger than his head

 

[Uncle Fester]

Uncle, I'm gonna hex you into something...

lol

I Laughed A Lot When I Saw It ) . Its Very Fuuny . But Very Nice As Always Uncle

ty

i meant to say his hand looks bigger than his head

oh, Well, Trolls have different proportions than humans and such

 

[Bboy Moose]

oh, Well, Trolls have different proportions than humans and such

Must be some Chernobyl troll 'n shit.

 

[Uncle Fester]

Must be some Chernobyl troll 'n shit.

lol

 

[NyxScream]

I like that your "troll Sorcerer" is very original.
However in my opinion you should place him another staff, that seems to be of the race "Naga" and not at all of the "trolls" also is a little outdated cave mentioned.

PD: my punctuation is 4/5 of the staff.

 

[Uncle Fester]

I like that your "troll Sorcerer" is very original.
However in my opinion you should place him another staff, that seems to be of the race "Naga" and not at all of the "trolls" also is a little outdated cave mentioned.

PD: my punctuation is 4/5 of the staff.

ty, i'm glad you like it. Outdated cave? whatever....

 

[FUJI]

Nice Work DUde!!!!! 5/5 Great Work!

 

[Uncle Fester]

Nice Work DUde!!!!! 5/5 Great Work!

ty

 

[Onholyservicebound]

His legs are definitely too short, the shadow priest himself is rather old looking, doesn't mean his legs shrink, his legs should easily be twice that length.

Good model otherwise though, everything fine for me save the legs.

 

[Davian_Thule]

Great Work! But I think Trolls are not supposed to wear boots, shoes etc.