Titans of War AoS V0.27

[Moderator]

18:07, 8th Sep 2011
Vengeancekael:
Status: Rejected

Same map as http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/maps-564/battle-eastern-kingdoms-v0-32-a-192193/

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[Darkzealot_128]

Looks good, going to check.

 

[GLB]

I just changed something in the map presentation...

 

[Coaster_Man]

From the screen shots, especially in the castes/bases, the terrain is really lacking. All the same tile with little to no doodads makes it look ugly.

 

[Adiktuz]

gameplay-wise it looks good, for terrain, add more variation... and I was just thinking why its called Titans of War... ^_^

 

[GLB]

From the screen shots, especially in the castes/bases, the terrain is really lacking. All the same tile with little to no doodads makes it look ugly.

Did you play the map? I don't think so because then you wouldn't have said this. The castle needs to be empty so that you can build traininghalls. The empty area is gonna be filed up with player-owned buildings during the game.
And by the way, I used a customized terrain tile.

Why I called the game "Titans of War"? Because the units get bigger and bigger with the game. Especially the Tech-3 units are really huge.

 

[Adiktuz]

well, he said "judging from the screenshots" so it means he did not play it...

anyway, add tile variation to the castle part especially on the grassy area, its too mono-tiled...

 

[Mikecari]

Pretty bland gameplay, I'll give it a 2 for now until you add something that actually makes it different from crappy old dota.

 

[GLB]

Pretty bland gameplay, I'll give it a 2 for now until you add something that actually makes it different from crappy old dota.

apparently you neither read the presentation nor played the game. You can build traininhalls that spawn units... I can't remember having seen this in Dota!
And just because it's an AoS doesn't mean that it's like Dota...

 

[FriendlyHost]

There are a lot of problems in this map.
Sea Giants are way too strong, they can easily kill all of the towers.
Cannon towers should have much more health.
Items should be greatly improved, and balanced.

Other than that, this is the most creative AoS I've ever played.
Awesome heroes, awesome building ability (even though it's rigged), and awesome terrain.
I rate this map 4/5, awesome work.

 

[FriendlyHost]

Pretty bland gameplay, I'll give it a 2 for now until you add something that actually makes it different from crappy old dota.

This map is barely like DotA dude!

 

[Adiktuz]

@FriendlyHost - DO NOT TRIPLE POST, use the EDIT button...

 

[AsXurian]

Looks like a good new input in AoS's. But i have one question and it directed at the entire WCIII map-making world. Why, oh why do we still have so many maps in german/korean/japanese/etc. If we have so mnay maps in said languages we should know enough of what they mean to translate it.

 

[GLB]

Looks like a good new input in AoS's. But i have one question and it directed at the entire WCIII map-making world. Why, oh why do we still have so many maps in german/korean/japanese/etc. If we have so mnay maps in said languages we should know enough of what they mean to translate it.

I don't get your point... my map is entirly in english... it's just my wc3 that is in German cause I was too lazy to get the english version.

There are a lot of problems in this map.
Sea Giants are way too strong, they can easily kill all of the towers.
Cannon towers should have much more health.
Items should be greatly improved, and balanced.

Other than that, this is the most creative AoS I've ever played.
Awesome heroes, awesome building ability (even though it's rigged), and awesome terrain.

thx yeah I will give them more lifepoints. but I find the sea giants aren't actually that strong. They are extremly expensive and they just last 100 seconds. ^^

 

[FriendlyHost]

I don't get your point... my map is entirly in english... it's just my wc3 that is in German cause I was too lazy to get the english version.



thx yeah I will give them more lifepoints. but I find the sea giants aren't actually that strong. They are extremly expensive and they just last 100 seconds. ^^

Make the Control Stones have Structure type armor!
Replace Up-Grade with Upgrade.
I think the Space Marine should be Intelligence type, because all of his abilities are damage spells.
I also think heroes should have more increased damage as the level up, for instance my Level 1 Space Marine had 25 damage. When he was Level 6, he has 31 damage.
Remove the spells that the "Remover" unit has, their are already a lot of spells. The "Summon Defenders" spell is especially rigged.
Many sentences don't end with a period.
Heroes shouldn't be able to spawn kill, of which they can if the Castle isn't attacking them.
Most of the items have very poor quality.

Regarding the Castles:
I think you should make lumber should be a lot cheaper to buy. The things you buy with lumber should be much weaker than what they are now, they should only help a little. Like the Battle Cry spell, or whatever it's called should only help by a few percent, under 10%. I think the Sea Giants are rigged because even though they cost a LOT, in the beginning of the game, you can set the Lumber to 300. 300 is enough for Sea Giants, which can (and almost inevitably will) destroy the first 4 towers in each row. This can flip the tide of the game with 1 click.

 

[GLB]

Make the Control Stones have Structure type armor!
Replace Up-Grade with Upgrade.
I think the Space Marine should be Intelligence type, because all of his abilities are damage spells.
I also think heroes should have more increased damage as the level up, for instance my Level 1 Space Marine had 25 damage. When he was Level 6, he has 31 damage.
Remove the spells that the "Remover" unit has, their are already a lot of spells. The "Summon Defenders" spell is especially rigged.
Many sentences don't end with a period.
Heroes shouldn't be able to spawn kill, of which they can if the Castle isn't attacking them.
Most of the items have very poor quality.

Regarding the Castles:
I think you should make lumber should be a lot cheaper to buy. The things you buy with lumber should be much weaker than what they are now, they should only help a little. Like the Battle Cry spell, or whatever it's called should only help by a few percent, under 10%. I think the Sea Giants are rigged because even though they cost a LOT, in the beginning of the game, you can set the Lumber to 300. 300 is enough for Sea Giants, which can (and almost inevitably will) destroy the first 4 towers in each row. This can flip the tide of the game with 1 click.

Hej Hej!
Well, I changed the "poor quality" of the items by balancing them, by creating a new type of item (crafted items) and by changing their descritpion, trying to make it look more "professional". Anyway, I did not change the stats of the sea giants because when I played on garena, the sea giants weren't actually that strong. And all depends on how the host sets the game options (I always play with 160% hero exp, 1000 start gold, 35 start lumber, 1 gold income, 3 food).

I also add a new castle spell: the unholy protectors. I don't think they are too strong.

And I just see that I forgot to replace Up-Grade by Upgrade ... sorry ^^
Well, as you can see, I made more or less all the changes you asked for (exept for the "rigged" builder spells.)

ciao

 

[Savarius]

Aos maps has been populating the hive a lot recently , I do not know if this is a good thing or a bad thing .. Anyways I might depict this as an offspring of DotA(no offence).
But hey , you did a good job

 

[Anachron]

You are missing the credit list.

 

[FriendlyHost]

Testing it now...
Awesome loading screen. Circles of power are better.
The description for the Moon Crystal is very bad. I also don't think it's very balanced.
Summoner's Staff: replace "mur'locs level 3" with "Murlocs". Also, some items still say "u-pgrade", like most of the upgradeable items.
Mask of Death: Replace "Grands" with "Grants". Replace "You" with "Your". The description is very bad. Give the Mask a new name and icon, "Mask of Death" is not very creative! It makes the game seem less professional.
Bracelet of Life: replace "1hp restored per second (HP-Regeneration)" with "Increases the Heroe's hit point regeneration by 1 hit point per second." or something similar.
If an item has no "ability", why even say it has "no ability"?
Repair: Highlight "Costs 100 gold".
Owleye: His Black Hole spell's 3rd level description says: "350 110 damage", what does that mean?
All items: Replace "purchase" with "Purchase".
Amulet of Holy Light: Remove the word "feet", distance in WC is not "feet".
Dwarven Hammer: Very bad description.
There should be a separate shop for consumable items, like the "Life Potion".
Instead of "Team _", it says "Spieler "12" or "Spieler 6"
Almost all of the hero spells in this game are poor, for instance a lot of them are very basic. Make the spells unique!
Fun game, still, with many flaws. 4/5, very fun anyways!

 

[FrozenFenrir]

okay tested a few heroes...and...uhm yeah.

-that rook hero is quite IMBALLANCED since its impossible to target him with non-aoe spells due to his bugged model. fix that immediately!

-dunno if its fixed but the paladins heal doesnt work on yourself+doesnt deal any dmg against other units (except ud heroes+ units)

-the control point on the middle lane (the far south one directly in front of the castle of team 2) is in range of the towers, making it impossible to claim for a longer duration since the towers directly destroy the control point.

-some other minor bugs which i cant remember

"Increases the Heroe's hit point regeneration by 1 hit point per second."

if you are so serious about grammar...
its "hero's" not "Heroe's"

 

[FriendlyHost]

okay tested a few heroes...and...uhm yeah.

-that rook hero is quite IMBALLANCED since its impossible to target him with non-aoe spells due to his bugged model. fix that immediately!

-dunno if its fixed but the paladins heal doesnt work on yourself+doesnt deal any dmg against other units (except ud heroes+ units)

-the control point on the middle lane (the far south one directly in front of the castle of team 2) is in range of the towers, making it impossible to claim for a longer duration since the towers directly destroy the control point.

-some other minor bugs which i cant remember



if you are so serious about grammar...
its "hero's" not "Heroe's"

OH! Oops! I forgot to capitalize a letter! I'm so sorry!

 

[GLB]

okay tested a few heroes...and...uhm yeah.

-that rook hero is quite IMBALLANCED since its impossible to target him with non-aoe spells due to his bugged model. fix that immediately!

-dunno if its fixed but the paladins heal doesnt work on yourself+doesnt deal any dmg against other units (except ud heroes+ units)

-the control point on the middle lane (the far south one directly in front of the castle of team 2) is in range of the towers, making it impossible to claim for a longer duration since the towers directly destroy the control point.

-some other minor bugs which i cant remember

Rook is really imballanced. I totally agree with you on that point. I have already been thinking quite a long time about taking him out of the hero list, 'cause of that bugged model. The paladin's spells are btw "copies" of the original spells, meaning that they are all custom spells that try to immitate the original spells. I did so in order to make the spells modifiable during the game by increasing the paladin's stats. "Holy Bolt" is the original spell of the paladin I tried to immitate. Holy Bolt does not heal the paladin himself and deals damage only to undead units. So, it is not a bug!
About the lanes: I saw that, too, with the middle lane, but each time I opened the Editor I forgot to modify it ^^

thanks for testing!

You are missing the credit list.

ehm... look in the quest log of the game under "Credits" ...

 

[FrozenFenrir]

Holy Bolt does not heal the paladin himself and deals damage only to undead units.

then how about writing it in the tooltips?
as far as i remember it says that you can heal yourself or other friendly units and deal dmg to enemy units.
nothing about "undead only" and "not usable on yourself".
also, this spell is actually usable on non-undead units/heroes without any effect, which leads to useless mana wasting if you dont know this.

OH! Oops! I forgot to capitalize a letter! I'm so sorry!

it was actually more about the "e"

 

[GLB]

then how about writing it in the tooltips?
as far as i remember it says that you can heal yourself or other friendly units and deal dmg to enemy units.
nothing about "undead only" and "not usable on yourself".
also, this spell is actually usable on non-undead units/heroes without any effect, which leads to useless mana wasting if you dont know this.



it was actually more about the "e"

Didn't I write it in the tooltip? I will have a look on it... And yes: you cannot heal your-self with the standard holy bolt of the paladin.

ciao

 

[baassee]

ehm... look in the quest log of the game under "Credits" ...

Should really be mentioned in the description too.

 

[JGGDMakervb6]

Seeing from description makes me want to play it!

 

[FrozenFenrir]

found another thing you should edit a bit...
dunno if its the same as in team 2 but if you take the teleporter to the upper line in team 1's base you always end up being hit by the enemy control point no matter what. please move the teleport end location more to the west so this wont happen anymore

 

[GLB]

found another thing you should edit a bit...
dunno if its the same as in team 2 but if you take the teleporter to the upper line in team 1's base you always end up being hit by the enemy control point no matter what. please move the teleport end location more to the west so this wont happen anymore

no it is not the same with the second team. I fixed it.

@all: I am sorry, the new up-date took a lot of time because I had not a lot of time actually ^^ therefore this update is only a minor one compared to the others. I just created a new hero, a new item, made some minor bug fixing and some balancing and that's it.

have fun with my map,

ciao

 

[XenoStalker]

I tried this out and it was actually pretty fun. There were odd things that could use some reworking, but they have been addressed in the posts above.

Great work.

 

[GLB]

Almost all of the hero spells in this game are poor, for instance a lot of them are very basic. Make the spells unique!
Fun game, still, with many flaws. 4/5, very fun anyways!

Yeah you 're right, some of the spells were a bit uncreative. I am actually quite good in creating custom spells aso. J was just some kind of lazy to create new ones, that are more original. Plus I had n't enough time. Anyway, the new heroes have all at least 2 custom spells, some even 3 or 4. I tried to make as creative as possible.

--> +rep

I tried this out and it was actually pretty fun. There were odd things that could use some reworking, but they have been addressed in the posts above.

Great work.

-Thanks

--> +rep

 

[-BLOOD_BATH-]

Oh yeah CF-like game with helps of mobs!
I just don't like the heroes, cause of many-but-poor quality. But I guess you already know what's the problem, then that's not important.
First play is fun, about 20 minutes I get boring, cause of a few selection of buildings to train creeps. But about the quality of creeps, it's 3/5. Maybe you should add custom skills on each creeps.
And about bugs :
-My options is 100% exp rate, 2 gold income/sec, 3 max food, 300 starting gold, and 80 starting lumber. I picked the Ancients race and the Sorceress hero. I only can build 3 Ancient Seed! I dunno this is a bug or not.
-And sometimes mobs on West Force on upper lane walk to the neutral creep, the Plague Treant ones.
Anyway, Good luck in your project!

 

[GLB]

Oh yeah CF-like game with helps of mobs!
I just don't like the heroes, cause of many-but-poor quality. But I guess you already know what's the problem, then that's not important.
First play is fun, about 20 minutes I get boring, cause of a few selection of buildings to train creeps. But about the quality of creeps, it's 3/5. Maybe you should add custom skills on each creeps.
And about bugs :
-My options is 100% exp rate, 2 gold income/sec, 3 max food, 300 starting gold, and 80 starting lumber. I picked the Ancients race and the Sorceress hero. I only can build 3 Ancient Seed! I dunno this is a bug or not.
-And sometimes mobs on West Force on upper lane walk to the neutral creep, the Plague Treant ones.
Anyway, Good luck in your project!

Hej!
Yeah okay I have to say that you really picked the worse hero of the whole game. When I started creating the game, I did not give a shit on hero quality, but then people started complaining about it and now, there newer ones are much better than the formers. Anyhow.
For your first question, you gave the answer your-self: you picked 3 max food and this means you cannot build more than 3 buildings.
For the other question, I m gonna change it.
Thanks bye

 

[ksStr]

Single Player [v0.25]
Mode: 300 lumber only
I picked Burning Legion & Space Orc(hero)
Both team(I am top left team) minions are not going their way properly..
all minions of opposite team goes to mid during second wave I think...
my lane(top) is not coming after that...
and I quited @@ to post this

Has this bug fixed?

View attachment LastReplay.w3g

 

[GLB]

Single Player [v0.25]
Mode: 300 lumber only
I picked Burning Legion & Space Orc(hero)
Both team(I am top left team) minions are not going their way properly..
all minions of opposite team goes to mid during second wave I think...
my lane(top) is not coming after that...
and I quited @@ to post this

Has this bug fixed?

View attachment 97670

mh okay so far I've never had any problems with the creep ways.
I 'll double-check. Did you like the map?

 

[ksStr]

To: GLB
yeah, i played on single player now
haven't try it with my friends
so far maps like castle fights are good =D

 

[GolemWarrior]

Looks fun im downloadin it

 

[Deleted member 247165]

apparently you neither read the presentation nor played the game. You can build traininhalls that spawn units... I can't remember having seen this in Dota!
And just because it's an AoS doesn't mean that it's like Dota...

Many people cannot understand that or accept that are even better AoS maps than DotA.