The Spell "Friends" from Baldur's Gate II

[xXMephistoXx]

I want to make the spell "Friends" from Baldur's Gate II - Soa&ToB in Wc3, but I really don't know how I could make something that would resemble the effect the spell has in BGII?
Anybody with an idea?

 

[onix_noob]

first of all in warcraft don't have charisma
second there are no politics
and third guards don't talk much what about giving information
and fourth there is no rounds

 

[xXMephistoXx]

I know. That's what makes it so bloody hard. I'm not looking for an exact copy of the thing, but something in Wc3 that might be somewhat the same..

 

[Avator]

Charisma in Wc3 can be either an edit of Strength, Agility or Intelligence, making them directly viewable from the hero information bar. However, you can also make pure data based attributes, which are only a number and can be displayed at a multiboard or something similar. Depending on how you code 'charisma' in your map, you have different ways to make the spell you want.

 

[Eleandor]

Baldur's gate also uses strength, agility (dexterity, is the same...) and intelligence, so to add charisma and the other 2 attributes, you do need a multiboard, like avator suggested.

 

[xXMephistoXx]

You see, I'm making a spell-pack, which I intend to release here on the Hive, not for any spesific map. therefore there's not really any use in creating a multiboard :S
And editing str, agi or int would also be rather useless for a spell-pack :S (and, as Eleandor pointed out, BGII also uses str, agi and int.
I need help to translate it into something that's in Wc3 as it is default, and I don't even know if there's any. Remember, it only needs to resemble the spell, not be the same.

 

[onix_noob]

i can make your spell but from my first post u should know that i need 2 know for what your charisma will be/do u need it 2 be displayed some where and for the guards u can use if player have charisma is greater than 1 to add new dialog box with some helpfull info when u talk to guardian but that's my second and last post in this useles threadbecouse the author is just saying " more stars 2 fall when i discover the star fall wonder/like in My tribe's game" btw i sugest admins 2 close the thread becouse doesn't have direct asociation with warcraft 3 help exept the place where he is asking us if we can make "more starts 2 fall when he discover the wonder of stars"

 

[xXMephistoXx]

I think you're missing the point. The spell has to be non-dependant on charisma. It should be able to be used in a simple Melee-game like footman frenzy or something like that.

 

[RunningAway]

"A Friends spell causes the wizard to temporarily gain 2d4 points of Charisma. Those who view the caster tend to be very impressed with the spellcaster and make an effort to be his friend and help him, as appropriate to the situation. Officious bureaucrats might decide to become helpful; surly gate guards might wax informative; attacking orcs might spare the caster's life, taking him captive instead. "

Maybe there's a chance enemies might choose not to attack the caster, or he takes reduced damage or has a chance to dodge. Maybe they're slowed when they attack him or a spell that is cast against him fails? Maybe the next time he would take damage it's negated and he is healed for that amount or a predefined amount? Maybe the next time he would take damage the attacker receives it instead, or all nearby enemies are hurt for that amount. Or something along those lines...

 

[xXMephistoXx]

That's very helpful! Thanks =)
Now I can get to work

 

[onix_noob]

I think you're missing the point. The spell has to be non-dependant on charisma. It should be able to be used in a simple Melee-game like footman frenzy or something like that.

THE POINT IS THAT YOU DON'T TELL THE POINT
it's good that RunningAway give you a point

 

[Avator]

xXMephistoXx, I got to agree with onix_noob. In your first post you wanted to insert that specific spell, which required you to add Charisma as an attribute. Now you say all you really wanted was an idea for a spell that would prevent harm from enemies or make them help you. That's barely related to that spell. Next time, please explain your problem clearly to prevent these kind of scenes.

 

[xXMephistoXx]

Yeah, there was a little information in the first post, but there was no misguidance, as I see it. I just failed to say exactly what I wanted.
No matter, I'll describe it better next time