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The Black Company Beta v1.5

Beta version.
A campaign being made by BadThrall based on the book called "The Black Company" by Glen Cook. Story intro:
Croaker spoke to assembled Company:
In olden times the outfit consisted entirely of black soldiers. Thus the name. Its slow drift northward has seen not only its diminustion but a shift in its makeup. One-Eye is the only black man with us today.
We are the last of the Twelve True Companies. We have out-endured the others by more than a century, but I fear we're into our twilight days. I fear this may be the Company's final commission. A page of history is about to turn. Once it does, the great warrior brotherhoods will be gone and forgotten.
But Croaker was wrong...Some feel the Lady, newly risen from centuries in thrall, stands between humankind and evil. Some feel she is evil itself. The hardbitten men of the Black Company take their pay and do what they must buring their doubts with their dead.
Until the prophecy: The White Rose has been reborn, somewhere, to embody good once more.
There must be a way for the Black Company to find her...
If you want to read more into it, here are some excerpts from the book, thanks to Amazon.com:The Black Company (Chronicles of The Black Company #1): Cook, Glen: 9780812521399: Amazon.com: Books R1%2BEfW %20oVph3jcZ5oF4H8kRD0jM57G82Du04dLHMQF8%3D#
Other downloads here: Downloads - The Black Company mod for Warcraft III: Frozen Throne
Contents

The Black Company Beta v1.5 (Campaign)

Reviews
Craka_J: A pretty well made Campaign. Approved.
This is one of the few campaigns I return to play every now and then and my only wish is to see it done either by its creator or another talented campaign creator.
It's too good to be left unfinished.
I don't remember playing anything similar to its gameplay and its story immersiveness is matched only by other few creators among the Hive
 
WARNING! MUCHO TEXTO AHEAD!



This campaign is truly an unpolished gem. Despite bleeding from multiple wounds, it manages to remain entertaining up until the last chapter. With an unorthodox gold gaining system, the rock-paper-scissors counter system it rises above the average WC3 campaign, held back by a multitude of flaws. "It has potential", would say the generic reviewer.

--- Visual design ---

It's split between the excellent unit models and the rather bland-looking environments, with various degrees in both areas.
Let's start with the unit models: they're phenomenal! The black overalls on the mercenaries look stylish and menacing, and the humanization of non-human characters is successful for the most part. The light cav and spear-men are the most successful in this regard. The rebel units also look convincing, with brown being their main sub-color they are successful in reflecting their rag-tag origins. This excellency extends to the main cast as well, One Eye especially with his cool wizard hat. Some other models are less successful in that regard, like the Archer feels like he's cross-dressing and the grunts, raiders and warlocks, to a lesser extend look weird with their orcish teeth intact.
The map design, however, starts out average, then progressively goes down the drain. The first 3 missions look adequate, the regent's mansion or whatever look like a series of featureless corridors, then the rest just look bland with a few highlights. Those highlights are the forest and the mine-rushing mission, the layout being diverse both texturally and prop-wise. Without the doubt, chapter 8, I think, and the last chapter look the worst, comprised entirely of copy-pasted geometry, with no indication to where to go. When it comes to habited areas, this campaign falls short,best example being the map layout of Roses, as it looks like the houses are just maze walls rather than a place where people live.

--- Story ---

Idk how much of the story is being hard-carried by the source material, or how faithful it is, but if this campaign were to be an advertisement for the books, then I'd say this is a success story.
When it comes to the writing style, the best part about it is that it focuses on the struggles of the Black Company, on the conflicts among them and the conflicts between the other factions, both allied and enemy, using a lot of "slice of life" elements to tell it's story. This helps in multiple ways: it helps establishing the characters, it helps in empathising with the company and its struggles, it makes the story way more engaging and it helps to make the fantasy elements more unique. The dialog writing also follows suit: characters do away with the heroic epic style speech, like rumorspeak and ancient-talks, giving more space to their feelings and thoughts to flourish that fuel the bleak outlook of the company's fate. One natural consequence of this style is that the amount of text present in the campaign becomes too much, where blocks of texts take up a good 10% of the screen. The problem is exacerbated by the mix of Croaker's diary entries mixed with character dialogs, as sometimes things Croaker just loves to ramble on things that aren't too important, like describing how hard did Raven embrace Darling at one point. His tendency to simp for the Lady also cause light irritation, or unintentional comedy. The worst thing about the verbosity becomes when the player realises that cutscenes past chapter 3 are unskippable, hindering the replayability of the campaign. Worse still is that Interludes tend to be made up of 3 or more maps, and despite the flavourful text and story, the texts just go on and on, and become very tiring by the end of it, so it is advised to play this campaign in short intervals.
Texts also suffer from a multitude of grammatical, semantic and other mistakes. Some dialogs use the incorrect tense, a lot of screw ups with the "they, their and they're" words, incorrect expressions like "illuminate me" instead of "enlighten me", or Silent's title as a "mystery" instead of a "mystic" and so on and on. English purists really need to strap their pants on if they intend to play through.
Oh, and the story is unfinished.


--- Gameplay ---

The game features an unorthodox economy system, an AoE2 style counter system, and even unique missions within this conundrum.
Let's start with the build and destroy missions: they can go either way. The player either steamrolls the enemy with plenty of change to spare for new units, or he struggles to keep up a meager army to defend themselves. The economy works this way: the player receives a hypothetical 2500 gold every 2 minutes, out of which some is spent on the food used on by the player, which is subsidised by the veteran bonus, which is received by basic units once they level up their veteran levels. To help further subsidise the food cost, every kill grants gold, and most melee units have the pillage ability. This way the campaign sets up a precedence: if you want to have a big army, you need to use it immediately, lose as few as possible. In the early parts of the game, this won't be an issue, as the player will have plenty of time to build up his forces, and the enemies are weak enough to secure the veteran funds early. After the siege of deal chapter, this economy system embarks on a downward spiral, as the enemies get tougher. A 101 problem will emerge after the mentioned chapter: the player's units won't be strong enough to even take down small outposts, and if the player decides to accumulate funds, then an unexpected attack can easily cause a game-over within seconds. Upgrades will also leave the coffers empty, but they feel mandatory in order not to be left behind in the arms race. So which is it: twiddle the thumbs in the early game to get a few on-par units out, or go all in, effortlessly lose your entire brigade, then have no reserves to make back-up units. And forget about raiding parties: the enemy density is too high to take down small outposts, thus the extra gold is denied. This economy is especially not geared towards fast development, evidenced by the Amazon mission, where the player has to race a timer to stop the gold-mining operations of the rebels, while being bombarded by numerous attack waves. A large help would be if any of the following changes would be implemented: a) have an internal unit value that decreases the income rather than the food used, that way the unit will only hurt the income once it's trained rather than when it's queued; b) reduce the timer to 1 and a half minutes; c) double the base gold and the food tax, that way more gold remains in hands.
Another eco related problem is wood gathering: it is affected by the upkeep rate. So even if the player a lot of gold in the reserve, wood will remain a problem, although this effect will only be noticed in the penultimate build mission.
And what can you train out of your limited economy? Well, quite a lot of good units, actually. The units don't just look good, but they're also satisfying to use, mostly. The mages, for one, are exceptionally well handled, where they have a mana pool of 600 or more, have generally useful abilities, like curse, faerie fire, bloodlust, dispel magic, in exchange they they take up extra food supply. The heavy units like the soldiers and the varangian knights are also effective and fun to use, due to their survivability and decent damage output. In general, the only underpowered units are the archers and wolfriders, due to their low damage and low durability.
The gameplay implementation of the rebels, on the other hand, leaves a lot to be desired, mostly due to their high HP and excessively high amount of armor (the basic footman can have up to points of 15 armor). Some other frustrating units to face are the rebel mages and their love of using Finger of Pain, and the Rebel Knights that have Bash. Due to these factors, the player is further encouraged to make that fabled variety army, however the efficiency of some of the units is heavily dependent on their attack types. Long story short: piercing attacks deal next to no damage, unless they're up against what they're supposed to counter.
The usefulness of your standard units does not extend to the heroes you control. In fact, apart from Croaker, every hero fields sub-par abilities, be it either conceptually weak (sleep, illusion, hex, fake demon, poison spiders) or lacking in potency (fan of knives does basically no damage, disease cloud ridden zombies, assassination costing too much.) Elmo suffers the most of this uselessness, as he has only passives in his repertuar, his ultimate being rather underwhelming. Croaker's presence makes or breaks a level, simply because when he is around, the player doesn't have to waste his gold on buying healing salves in the shops. Yeah, an army that relies on the survival of its members, has no secure sources of healing.
No build segments are a bit more fun, for the most part, as they are very micro-intensive. The player has to constantly reposition himself to remove injured units from combat and use a lot of clutch-heals on them. The main and only downside of these segments is that random attack waves tend to catch the player off guard, which may result to losing a few units. As for the boss fights: they're alright, mostly the boss moves from A to B, spamming some boss like abilities, such as illusions, blinks, you get the drift. THey're really just nothing burgers: decently implemented but by no means memorable.


The TL: DR is: campaign flawed, but good.
 
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It's split between the excellent unit models and the rather bland-looking environments, with various degrees in both areas.
Let's start with the unit models: they're phenomenal! The black overalls on the mercenaries look stylish and menacing, and the humanization of non-human characters is successful for the most part.
The only issue I have is that we can recruit spellcasters. The books clearly state that the only spellcasters in the Company are One-Eye, Goblin and Silent.
Idk how much of the story is being hard-carried by the source material, or how faithful it is, but if this campaign were to be an advertisement for the books, then I'd say this is a success story.
This campaign is what actually made me read the books, so yeah...
It is very faithful to the books, but adds more gameplay. The first mission doesn't occur in the book, the one where we look for Raker should be just Croaker rather than that many soldiers, etc.
When it comes to the writing style, the best part about it is that it focuses on the struggles of the Black Company, on the conflicts among them and the conflicts between the other factions, both allied and enemy, using a lot of "slice of life" elements to tell it's story. This helps in multiple ways: it helps establishing the characters, it helps in empathising with the company and its struggles, it makes the story way more engaging and it helps to make the fantasy elements more unique.
I love the characters in the books. They are realistic and have depth.
Oh, and the story is unfinished.
Which is too bad since there was only one major event left. The story was around 95-98% done.
--- Gameplay ---
The TL: DR is: campaign flawed, but good.
:thumbs_up:
 
The only issue I have is that we can recruit spellcasters. The books clearly state that the only spellcasters in the Company are One-Eye, Goblin and Silent.
The necromancers and warlocks are from Soulcatcher/ The lady
Hecktaches are of the Company, although they are not that mage like, as their abilities are just curse, mainly. I think they are more like disarmers instead of mages, but Bad Thrall put them in the mage category.

Which is too bad since there was only one major event left. The story was around 95-98% done.
You are correct. On the official page the campaign was posted, Bad Thrall mentioned he needed 1 map remake ( probably if I had a map ) and another level, making it 19 levels. He didn't count the interludes, so after "if I had a map", there would be the last battle, and then an interlude, and the company would have been done.

This is one of the few campaigns I return to play every now and then and my only wish is to see it done either by its creator or another talented campaign creator.
It's too good to be left unfinished.
I don't remember playing anything similar to its gameplay and its story immersiveness is matched only by other few creators among the Hive
I agree. it should be finished. It only needs 2 more maps.
 
A gem. A literal gem that will never be finished. I don't have much words to describe how much I loved this campaign. I tried browsing the internet to search for the original creator, no chance. Apparently, the campaign would have needed 1 more map, 1 interlude and 1 map remake and it would have been finished. It was abandoned out of nowhere, back in 2007. The creator simply published the update and vanished off the internet. Another team member was on this site, called frutisimo or similiar. No chance to get into contact with that guy either. I do hope that someone, or more people will finish this. It's truly a gem and it's depressing knowing it was left like this.
 
If you're interested in the story, mainly, you could read the book.
I did. Only for the first chapter though. But this campaign made the books 10x better..

Now do I wonder , if someone ever wants to finish it ( knowing it's like 2-3 more chapters ) would Hive allow it? The campaign wasn't even originally posted on hive by the creator, but a reupload.
 
I did. Only for the first chapter though. But this campaign made the books 10x better..
The books rarely describe the actual battles and mostly gives a short summary, as it focuses on the characters talking, worldbuilding, and the thoughts of who is writing the annals.
My main beef with the books is that by around Book 4 or 5 they constantly switch between the POV of three or more characters and not all are part of the company.
 
The books rarely describe the actual battles and mostly gives a short summary, as it focuses on the characters talking, worldbuilding, and the thoughts of who is writing the annals.
My main beef with the books is that by around Book 4 or 5 they constantly switch between the POV of three or more characters and not all are part of the company.
The Return of the Black Company was certainly not an easy read.
Especially since they go back in time to talk about past events from different characters' perspectives, and later Croaker isn't the main character anymore, but his apprentice, who takes over his annals.
 
The books rarely describe the actual battles and mostly gives a short summary, as it focuses on the characters talking, worldbuilding, and the thoughts of who is writing the annals.
My main beef with the books is that by around Book 4 or 5 they constantly switch between the POV of three or more characters and not all are part of the company.
The music and feel of the black company campaign was something else. It was like the book was an inspiration from the campaign, haha.


Some interesting stuff I found is that the campaign was supposed to get original music, more models, map remakes and what not. Here is the music made for it ->
(needs translation)

The potential for the black company was too big. I still wonder why BadThrall abandoned it out of the blue.
 
Now do I wonder , if someone ever wants to finish it ( knowing it's like 2-3 more chapters ) would Hive allow it? The campaign wasn't even originally posted on hive by the creator, but a reupload.
Well, it will never be as this author intended. It will be flavourless in that regard. So I don't know if it matters. Perhaps a new whole remake of the campaign+ or adaptation of the books?

@Fyar used Google Translate on the video's description:
"In 2005, I received an assignment from a game composer forum run by composer Jason Hayes to compose music for a fan-made quest for the Warcraft 3 expansion. The expansion was called The Black Company and was based on the dark fantasy book series of the same name by author Glen Cook. For a year, I composed music for that expansion, which unfortunately was never published. Like the rest of the game music, the creators wanted the music I composed to be written for a symphony orchestra, and I did as they asked.

However, my composing skills are nowhere near the level where I could compose well-played orchestral music, so I buried these pieces to wait for better skills. In the summer of 2016, however, I figured out that I could arrange these pieces for a smaller instrumental ensemble, in this case a string quartet.

This is the first part of the series, Shades on the Road. I try to take the names either from the titles of Cook's books or from the names of the chapters in the books."


Interestingly, Jason Hayes, a Blizzard Entertainment composer was somewhat involved in this, the text mentions.
There are more tracks on his channel.

Also, lol, this one's named The Garden of the Devil or Devil's Garden in my language:
Context: the story is in English, the composer Finnish and that track's name in Romanian.
"The title of the fifth part is not directly from the book series. I didn't come up with a name for the part, and a composer colleague suggested the name "The Devil's Garden", which was then translated into Romanian."
 
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Well, it will never be as this author intended. It will be flavourless in that regard. So I don't know if it matters. Perhaps a new whole remake of the campaign+ or adaptation of the books?

@Fyar used Google Translate on the video's description:
"In 2005, I received an assignment from a game composer forum run by composer Jason Hayes to compose music for a fan-made quest for the Warcraft 3 expansion. The expansion was called The Black Company and was based on the dark fantasy book series of the same name by author Glen Cook. For a year, I composed music for that expansion, which unfortunately was never published. Like the rest of the game music, the creators wanted the music I composed to be written for a symphony orchestra, and I did as they asked.

However, my composing skills are nowhere near the level where I could compose well-played orchestral music, so I buried these pieces to wait for better skills. In the summer of 2016, however, I figured out that I could arrange these pieces for a smaller instrumental ensemble, in this case a string quartet.

This is the first part of the series, Shades on the Road. I try to take the names either from the titles of Cook's books or from the names of the chapters in the books."


Interestingly, Jason Hayes, a Blizzard Entertainment composer was somewhat involved in this, the text mentions.
There are more tracks on his channel.

Also, lol, this one's named The Garden of the Devil or Devil's Garden in my language:
Context: the story is in English, the composer Finnish and that track's name in Romanian.
"The title of the fifth part is not directly from the book series. I didn't come up with a name for the part, and a composer colleague suggested the name "The Devil's Garden", which was then translated into Romanian."
The more I search about the black company the more interesting stuff I find. In the credits for the black company (downloaded from the other site where it was originally published) a lot, A LOT of models come from hive. The composer was finnish, the other guy who worked on this had an account here as well, bad thrall said the campaign was 90% done. I only wish it was finished. Maybe someone can pick it up
 
The more I search about the black company the more interesting stuff I find.
With the Black Company I took advice from Fritz Leiber who was my mentor and who said “Don’t draw a map because if you draw a map, as soon as you start drawing the map, you start narrowing your possibilities”. As long as you don’t have a map you don’t have to conform to certain things. I have a vague map inside my head and I’ve seen many maps on the internet of what people thought the Black Company world might be like. They’re not too far off, but they’re not close either. It’s north and south with a pond in the middle.
Also,
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With the Black Company I took advice from Fritz Leiber who was my mentor and who said “Don’t draw a map because if you draw a map, as soon as you start drawing the map, you start narrowing your possibilities”. As long as you don’t have a map you don’t have to conform to certain things. I have a vague map inside my head and I’ve seen many maps on the internet of what people thought the Black Company world might be like. They’re not too far off, but they’re not close either. It’s north and south with a pond in the middle.
Also,
Wow! Bad Thrall was REALLY passionate about this. Official soundtrack, Official map made by him, custom models and custom gold income and custom level up system for troops. It really makes you think why he abandoned it. This doesn't seem like the work of an amateur campaign maker, but a full studio

You also have to take into account that he started the black company shortly after frozen throne was released. Back then, they were no tutorials like they are today. Bad Thrall was probably learning along the way while developing black company.

I have also found this in the demo of the black company released some time prior to the 1.5v beta
Some of those users have Hive Accounts. If only someone is still around here, I wonder if I can ask them what happened to the company.
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Go ahead. ;)
Hah, I am not campaign maker. I just appreciate campaigns, haha.
Still, I would pay someone to make a continuation of it, truthfully.

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Another thing.
 
Last time BadThrall logged in on ModDB was in 2010.
Really? How did you find that out? Wow!

I have tried emailing BadThrall, but his email doesn't work anymore. I've also emailed fruetisimo but no response. Maybe we can try something to see why they abandoned this.
 
i played this long ago though i replayed it again like a week or two ago i am still not sure if that was the end it was intended but oh well who are we to judge. Though i liked it :D
 
i played this long ago though i replayed it again like a week or two ago i am still not sure if that was the end it was intended but oh well who are we to judge. Though i liked it :D
Unfinished unfortunately, and probably never be.
 
i played this long ago though i replayed it again like a week or two ago i am still not sure if that was the end it was intended but oh well who are we to judge. Though i liked it :D
It not being finished helped propel many people to go read his books, so it is not such a bad thing that the campaign was never finished. The book author, Glen Cook, is currently 81 years old and is still writing books in the Black Company series (last one released was "Lies Weeping" (Nov 2025).
 
It not being finished helped propel many people to go read his books, so it is not such a bad thing that the campaign was never finished. The book author, Glen Cook, is currently 81 years old and is still writing books in the Black Company series (last one released was "Lies Weeping" (Nov 2025).
We should have gotten a conclusion to it, only 2 more chapters and it was done. I really hope that someone can pick it up one day
 
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