The Adventures of Rowan the Wise v4.5

[ga_xjnk]

First chapter, when i attack the bandits, i use the book to teleport and i can not across the bridge to attack continuously
Of course Restart is fast but is it a bug? lol

 

[Atshiel]

Well...someone have won the Chapter 5 in Hard Mode already?Because, i'm giving up to it ._. it's too hard for me D:

 

[Map Designer]

An Ogre has the Legendary item...... plus Chapter 4's legendary item is hard to find... searched every single spot, crates and neutral buildings and still no item.....

dont spoil it for me

 

[Turnro]

Chapter 1 minor fault(s) :
When the footman says "attack!" Against the troll, the footman doesn't show his face (the speaking unit is none).

Really? I'll look into this.

First chapter, when i attack the bandits, i use the book to teleport and i can not across the bridge to attack continuously
Of course Restart is fast but is it a bug? lol

Yes, it is a bug lol. I will look into fixing this as well.

 

[StartTheGamePls]

Who would have thought that the counter to Sylvanas in Chapter 7 for ravaging your entire army is to not have an army at all.( Charmed half of my spellbreakers D: )

 

[Daffa]

A good strategy there would be focus fire Sylvanas then wipe the army. Logan Phoenix is a big asset at that chapter (did he own that spell? I forgot), as it's immune to charm and injure a bunch of troops.

 

[strannik]

is one bad bug! when on hard mode load a saved game is a small chance that it is like a cheat and is a game over when again load same all is ok

 

[lightfade]

Bug: After first mission kill the bandit in chapter 1, I took the tome of power and got Cheat Warning

 

[Turnro]

is one bad bug! when on hard mode load a saved game is a small chance that it is like a cheat and is a game over when again load same all is ok

Bug: After first mission kill the bandit in chapter 1, I took the tome of power and got Cheat Warning

This is interesting. It sounds like something that just happens randomly. Rest assured that I'll look into this.

 

[TheLordOfChaos201]

You also get that cheat warning when you minimise the program too

usually after a period of the game being minimised.

Mission 2 is impossible on hard, there is no time to build all those things and get your town hall to castle in 8 minutes. It's possible if you only need to get your town hall to keep, or you could just give the player a little more time.

By the way....

what is the difference between Hard and easy? Why play hard??

Could you make it so that once you select hard, new more awesome items are available

other then that, great great great GAME! I really enjoy killing time with this game.

 

[Turnro]

... Mission 2 is impossible on hard, there is no time to build all those things and get your town hall to castle in 8 minutes. It's possible if you only need to get your town hall to keep, or you could just give the player a little more time.

By the way....

what is the difference between Hard and easy? Why play hard??

Could you make it so that once you select hard, new more awesome items are available.

I will admit that Chapter is hard, but not impossible. Here is a video of a guy who managed to build all the structures in time:

What separates Hard difficulty from Normal is that it provides players with a challenge. There is nothing better than the feeling of accomplishing something that was only possible because you put effort into it.

I probably won't add more custom items into The Adventures of Rowan the Wise, since I wish to be done with this campaign. However, this will certainly be something that I will add in my future campaigns.

 

[Daffa]

You also get that cheat warning when you minimise the program too

usually after a period of the game being minimised.

Mission 2 is impossible on hard, there is no time to build all those things and get your town hall to castle in 8 minutes. It's possible if you only need to get your town hall to keep, or you could just give the player a little more time.

By the way....

what is the difference between Hard and easy? Why play hard??

Could you make it so that once you select hard, new more awesome items are available

other then that, great great great GAME! I really enjoy killing time with this game.

It's pretty much possible, there are some players have accomplished it. Including the one from the video.
It requires thinking a little though (figure out by second try), here's the value for each building (approximately, as I'm uncertain), remember humans can use multiple workers to hasten things up :
Farm : 10-20 seconds
Altar : 25-45 seconds
Barrack : 20-35 seconds
Blacksmith : 20-40 seconds
Lumber Mill : 20-35 seconds
Keep : 120-140 seconds
Castle [Requires Altar] : 120-140 seconds

Key here that 2 farm early is a necessity and altar must be build before keep finishes upgrade itself.
Remember Keep + Castle requires 280 seconds (4:40), so keep must begin construction by 5:00 or else it's very difficult.

 

[Sunreaver]

Are all those stuff mention fix if it is I will start downloading soon

 

[Atshiel]

Hey Turnro, i skipped cinematics in Hard Mode in Chapter 6 and then appeared that i used cheats o_o

 

[Map Designer]

I play chapter 1 on hard mode. I do the missions. I take the foot men, and reach the trolls. the cinmatics start and I press stop at the same second... and I get the warning message "NO Cheat in Hard Mode" OMG I didnt cheat

please no, no anti cheat system! :/
or just do it for whose your daddy.
(there is reason for those cheats anyway, you know)

 

[Turnro]

Hey Turnro, i skipped cinematics in Hard Mode in Chapter 6 and then appeared that i used cheats o_o

I play chapter 1 on hard mode. I do the missions. I take the foot men, and reach the trolls. the cinmatics start and I press stop at the same second... and I get the warning message "NO Cheat in Hard Mode" OMG I didnt cheat

It seems that a few people are having problems with the cheat disabling triggers. I have looked into what is causing the problem, and it is to do with the triggers I made that disable the 'thedudeabides' cheat.

What I will do is wait a few more days to leave more suggestions and feedback for The Adventures of Rowan the Wise, and then fix this major bug.

 

[Mechanical Man]

And this is why I hate these pathetic attempt to 'remove' cheats, which basically ruin the game most of the time.

 

[Map Designer]

And this is why I hate these pathetic attempt to 'remove' cheats, which basically ruin the game most of the time.

O, that was harsh.

anyway I think this will be fixed eventually. So, better you hate them on principle if you will (i.e. that there SHOULD be cheats XD) oh not that im taking this stance. It certainly does give some taste (you know when i game is IMPOSSIBLE to win, and then you barely do, how you feel?)
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anyway, appart from that, What do you guys think best of these campaign series? I really cant decide if Rowan or the Scourge is better :S
certainly adventure of rowan is kind of, uh.. more fine and neat compare to the RotS, but i think its not just me who likes to raise the dead XD

but I think Turnro you should make a pull or something

 

[Mechanical Man]

O, that was harsh.

Because then the creator is wasting his time on doing something totally unproductive while he could focus on more contents. If the player wants the full experience, he will play it without cheats. Cheaters would probably not even finish the campaign anyway.

 

[Heinvers]

Now I so much wish that cheats would have not been invented.

 

[Mechanical Man]

They are good for testing though.

 

[Map Designer]

Also (forgot in prev. post)

what do you guys think of the auras? I feel devotion aura is best (I like defense) because it makes my heal better. but which one is ACTUALLY better of the three? I cant tell if the dmg bonus is better :/

and just little hint, if you're familar with the effective hitpoints: each level of devotion aura is would give 9% effective hitpoints, while on the other hand, each level of command aura give 10% bonus damage.

so I think it kind of depends on the HP/Damage ratio. For example, if I have troll berserker unit, it would better have command aura because it has high damage (27-32 i think), but only little hitpoints. Grunt might better have armor

but, uh... I still dont have formula or something to tell which is better XD

 

[Turnro]

what do you guys think of the auras? I feel devotion aura is best (I like defense) because it makes my heal better. but which one is ACTUALLY better of the three? I cant tell if the dmg bonus is better :/

and just little hint, if you're familar with the effective hitpoints: each level of devotion aura is would give 9% effective hitpoints, while on the other hand, each level of command aura give 10% bonus damage.

so I think it kind of depends on the HP/Damage ratio. For example, if I have troll berserker unit, it would better have command aura because it has high damage (27-32 i think), but only little hitpoints. Grunt might better have armor

but, uh... I still dont have formula or something to tell which is better XD

In my opinion, there is no one better aura. Some auras are just more useful in certain situations. Having an aura that's better than the others would just ruin the point of having a choice to begin with.

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In other news, I have fixed the bug with cheat disabling in Hard difficulty. The player should now only lose the game if they attempt to cheat.

 

[Map Designer]

In my opinion, there is no one better aura. Some auras are just more useful in certain situations. Having an aura that's better than the others would just ruin the point of having a choice to begin with..

more detail please!

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In other news, I have fixed the bug with cheat disabling in Hard difficulty. The player should now only lose the game if they attempt to cheat.

Thanks XD

 

[jonbon29]

I really loved this campaign, I loved the story twist especially when uther morphs into a chicken when he did bad things hahaha. The hero voices are cool too I like custom voice of Muradin Bronze Beard, I wonder who dubbed that. I had a lot of fun playing this campaign.

 

[Turnro]

I really loved this campaign, I loved the story twist especially when uther morphs into a chicken when he did bad things hahaha. The hero voices are cool too I like custom voice of Muradin Bronze Beard, I wonder who dubbed that. I had a lot of fun playing this campaign.

Happy to hear you enjoyed this campaign, jonbon29

 

[Sunreaver]

I think chapther 2 hard mode is easy, Tactics just upgrade town first.

 

[WarDragon]

Hi, just found this after reinstalling one of my favorite games. One question... I can't find the Book of Wisdom you're talking about in Chapter 6, and I'm obsessive about getting secrets. Any tips on where to look?

 

[Turnro]

Hi, just found this after reinstalling one of my favorite games. One question... I can't find the Book of Wisdom you're talking about in Chapter 6, and I'm obsessive about getting secrets. Any tips on where to look?

Hi WarDragon,

If you have played Chpater 6 before, you will know that there is a destroyed bridge near the Goblin's settlement. If you can find a way to the other side, you will be able to find the Book of Wisdom.

 

[ngxkhoi]

How can I destroy the frozen throne?

 

[Turnro]

How can I destroy the frozen throne?

Hi ngxkhoi,

Is this a bug, or are you curious to know how to beat the final mission?

 

[Map Designer]

Hey Turnro,

is critical shot of Baven the swift based of normal critical strike? because I think it does not work with cold arrow (but i havent tested thoroughly yet) Because critical strike is orb effect for range heroes (and units)

 

[deadmaniac]

Hi ngxkhoi,

Is this a bug, or are you curious to know how to beat the final mission?

Hey turnro,

first of all i want to tell you that your campaign is amazing! i'm curious as well about the last mission, because i wonder if there is a bug i detected. are the heroes supposed to be resurrected in the final fight? i find it impossible to beat them in time. in videos of older versions, the undead heroes don't come back after falling in the battle of the frozen throne.

 

[WarDragon]

Hi WarDragon,

If you have played Chpater 6 before, you will know that there is a destroyed bridge near the Goblin's settlement. If you can find a way to the other side, you will be able to find the Book of Wisdom.

Ah, it's the spellbook. Yeah, I got that, thought there was something else. Thanks for replying!

I just beat the campaign, and though the final battle was really tough, I got it in the first try. Killing the enemy heroes was tough, but the fight with the Lich King would have been really boring without them. I threw three 100-food armies at the thing, and all were in no upkeep by the time I beat it.

Hoo boy, is Rowan gonna regret his decision about Arthas...

 

[Daffa]

@WarDragon, play Destiny of the Horde(I forget the name?) and Resurrection of the Scourge by Turnro, as well as his Malfurion Quest.
It contains the next series.

@Deadmaniac, since the first version I ever played, the final fight always has them intervened. I doubt that they don't revive for the final stand.

 

[deadmaniac]

@Deadmaniac, since the first version I ever played, the final fight always has them intervened. I doubt that they don't revive for the final stand.

I'm not sure if you understand me correctly. I manage to beat all the heroes but by time the last one falls the first one comes back, second shortly after, with full hp and mana. I havn't seen them coming back during the fight in other videos.

 

[Daffa]

I see, though it's odd if that's happening. It's a one time fight against them at Frozen Throne....

Turnro, is this intentional?

 

[WarDragon]

Yes, I saw the other two... it looks like Malfurion's Quest isn't finished, though, so I'll be happy with three.

I do have to say... thank you for not redoing the hotkeys in the Horde campaign. No offense, but having them all remapped from what I was used to drove me nuts the entire time I was playing with Rowan, especially the peasant building hotkeys.

 

[Turnro]

... is critical shot of Baven the swift based of normal critical strike? because I think it does not work with cold arrow (but i havent tested thoroughly yet) Because critical strike is orb effect for range heroes (and units)

From what I know, Critical Strike is a normal ability that should not be bugged if Cold Arrows/an Orb is used. From my experience, I only know that you cannot use both Cold Arrows and an Orb at the same time.

... first of all i want to tell you that your campaign is amazing! i'm curious as well about the last mission, because i wonder if there is a bug i detected. are the heroes supposed to be resurrected in the final fight? i find it impossible to beat them in time. in videos of older versions, the undead heroes don't come back after falling in the battle of the frozen throne.

What you experienced was not a bug, but rather an improvement I made to the campaign in a recent patch.

The reason why I made the undead heroes revive back was because the final battle with the Lich King was, beforehand, easy and boring. However, these heroes should not be a big problem providing that you attack with all 3 teams, each having 100 population of units.

 

[Daffa]

Turnro, that means we have 300 foods limit to crush them right?
And to be honest, I am glad you really do it, I remember I crush LK without trouble *cough*5 Heroes*cough*

 

[deadmaniac]

The reason why I made the undead heroes revive back was because the final battle with the Lich King was, beforehand, easy and boring. However, these heroes should not be a big problem providing that you attack with all 3 teams, each having 100 population of units.

well, i think my problem might be army composition and the path-finding-ai then. i'll have another try!

edit: Okay, I got it! In case anyone is interested in how I did that, here is a little guide since I think it's very hard to beat. But it was a great feeling after I managed to figure it out. Don't read any further if you are afraid of spoilers

At first, I reloaded the map from my first attempt, where my armies got seriously destroyed and I tried to escape from the battle which caused Arthas and Malganis to stay well away from the Frozen Throne. Next I trained a maxed out army composition for each race, due to my full treasuries I also got rid of my workers (hey, it's war, you have to make some sacrifices ).

My army composition looked like this: Human: 6 Mortar Teams, 18 Knights, 4 Priests, 1 Rifleman
Dwarf: 9 Shield Breakers, 6 Riflemen, 12 Siege Tanks
Elf: 5 Sorceresses, 6 Priests, 18 Spellbreaker, 6 Dragonhawks

For my attack it was crucial for Nathan to have the Amulet of Recall which you can find in the Furbolg camp north of the dwarven settlement. To avoid unwanted attention I casted Invisibility on Rowan, Nathan, Bevan and the Shield Breaker-task force and went up the mountain. The Bloodelf army right behind me.

At first I mass stormbolted Sylvanas, then I went with Nathan to the Frozen Throne and recalled all the Siege Tanks. The archmage mass teleported to Rowan while Arthas and Malganis came back to their master. Note that it only buys you some time to lure heroes away, when you attack the Throne, they will come back.

If you are able to micro a little bit and find a balance between focussing the Throne and the right heroes to the right time, it's not much of a deal.

After completing your campaign, I have to say that it was a huge pleasure playing. It is challenging, the characters are very nice, the custom heroes, abilites and units are very creative and have their specific usefulness, and you combine this fantastic story with humor. It's time to check out your other stuff, I guess!

 

[strannik]

Turno, are going update jeopardy of the horde?

 

[Turnro]

Turno, are going update jeopardy of the horde?

Later on this year, yes. At the moment, I am concentrating more on completing Malfurion's Quest.

You will find out when I will be updating Jeopardy for the Horde either in the campaigns posts or on Malfurion's Quest Official Map Forum.

 

[3X3R]

Turnro, when i load the game, it crashh, it says No cheating on hard mode, so i can't save my game and come back ? :S

 

[Daffa]

Strange, it works fine for me. I load chapter 3 once in Hard Mode.
What chapter you're in?

 

[Turnro]

Turnro, when i load the game, it crashh, it says No cheating on hard mode, so i can't save my game and come back ? :S

What chapter did this happen in, and how far were you into the mission?

Also, when did you download The Adventures of Rowan the Wise? Was it just last week, or in January?

 

[3X3R]

What chapter did this happen in, and how far were you into the mission?

Also, when did you download The Adventures of Rowan the Wise? Was it just last week, or in January?

It was chapter three, i was near the undead base, destroyed 2 towers, graveyard, and temple of damned, then i saved and exit wc3, when i came home, loaded it say's No cheating on Hard mode, tried 2-3 times and again it says the same, so i started again. I downloaded it 3. February

EDIT: Now i am on chapter five, i loaded and everything is ok, maybe it's only on that chapter..

 

[Shigu]

Downloaded this custom campaign last week and I'm on Chapter Seven. Curse of the Blood Elves, that is. A little review of mine:

[Overall]

- Me wanting to review this was the reason I registered here
- Recorded dialogs in a custom campaign is something nearly-unique. Congratulations. I see that even the heroes' quotes are recorded, even though Bevan, Tara and the Blood Mage use the same phrases as heroes that could already be used in TFT.
- Funny anti-cheat system.
- Compared to Hard campaigns in normal TFT, there's a massive difficulty spike. Not exactly due to a more clever AI, but because of how big attacks are. Specially mass Meat Wagons, who love to target Priests, Sorceresses and Phoenix Eggs.
- I like Rowan's Divine Shield. It reflects what I expected for it when I first played W3 - a meat shield that cannot take damage, not something that drives the AI into hitting your frailer units...

[Chapter 1]

- Not bad for a tutorial mission. It's weird that Rowan cannot gain experience of his own in the very first quests and later in the mission he can, though.
- The fact there is no way to recover HP quickly here is a little annoying. The 'Sunwell' could heal like a Fountain of Life, or perhaps Buzan could Holy Light.

[Chapter 2]

- A puzzle!? It genuinely surprised me, and on Hard the time limit is so low it actually took me many tries to get the build order right.
- The second part is very generic, though Maiev and Uther's personalities' derailments where inexplicably funny. Being the first base-oriented mission, it would not be a bad idea (In Hard mode) to add a hint explaining that AI's attack forces are going to be huge from here onwards.
- How much time did Buzan take to take out the Night Elves and Uther so that Arthas already left to Northrend? (Not said, but implied)

[Chapter 3]

- The mission itself was nothing special. Just reach the High Elves, kill the Blademaster with the OP-fied Mirror Image, then destroy an Undead outpost.
- However, it's THE hardest mission so far. The player's forces are really small and the High Elves' support was laughable (In my first try, the Undead even destroyed that support base!). I was forced to give Bevan all damage-increasing items and cheese the towers with his normal attack, then kite the undead defenders to Rowan.

[Chapter 4]

- Not difficult... especially not compared to the third mission. However, I spent a good time in the mission stuck because I thought the 18th survivor was in the undead base. Perhaps you could show a signal on the minimap when there are only a few left?
- The Flesh Golem is supposed to be one tough unit to deal with but it's lacking in aerial-defense support. It seriously wishes it could deal with those pesky Gyrocopters.

[Chapter 5]

- Here the difficulty ramps up, but still not as hard as Chapter 3. It's a very tricky mission, though. You barely have space to build towers, and if you don't take advantage of higher ground and choke points, you are over.
- Is there ANY reason to complete the optional quest?
- Antonidas is more of a jerkass than Zak Gramarye. Perhaps it's the norm of magicians and sorcerers?
- In the interlude, you did not even bother to give Antonidas's son a name. I know no one cares for him, but you could have showed him a little love

[Chapter 6]

- Nothing special. The first part is just hard dungeon crawling, and the second is similar to Chapter 3's, only with you having a siege weapon hero... that dies like lemmings, and so does the Alchemist.
- There were a few crates near the start that I could not reach because of a river in-between (There were three Aberrations on the other side)
- Is the bridge at the north of the goblin base ever repaired?
- Is there any reason for the Alchemist's original second spell and ultimate to be swapped? Other than screw custom hotkey systems, there does not seem to be any

[Chapter 7]

- No harder than Chapter 5 (Mass Spell Breakers on defense to stop Sylvanas's Drain Life spam... but why can she Charm them? They have Spell Immunity, I mean), though I still have to figure out the correct forces to take out Sylvanas's base.
- Oh, the Banshee's Anti-Magic Shell is even more annoying here than in normal TFT. Sure, it's not a complete immunity like there, but it makes you think you can attack Sylvanas when under that shell, only to see that even a Banished Holy Light merely tickles her.
- Sylvanas's attack forces are pretty nice. They kinda match her style (Spam ranged units)... though mixing Crypt Fiends AND Gargoyles is a horrible idea. Didn't she get the memo that Crypt Fiends ground air units and Gargoyles are horrible vs them?
- The Demon Summoner is the biggest anti-climax ever.
- A small hint mentioning that you cannot train Human, Dwarven or Gnomish units (As well as building Cannon Towers) would have been nice.
- I managed to trigger a bug on this mission: In my very first attempt, as soon as I saw I had to fight Arthas, I saved less than a second after finishing the cutscene, forced Arthas to Death Pact an Abomination, then Rowan and the Knights killed the other two and started hitting Arthas continuously until it ended. I forgot to save after that, and when retrying, I noticed Arthas had not summoned the undead waves he was supposed to, so my first battle with him turned out to be far easier than it should.

So far it's a pretty good challenge

 

[Daffa]

@shigu : Sylvanas' Charm can only be neutralized with Resistant Skin, I believe Shield Breakers (Dwarves) has this ability.

 

[Shigu]

@shigu : Sylvanas' Charm can only be neutralized with Resistant Skin, I believe Shield Breakers (Dwarves) has this ability.

Now I blame Spell Immunity for false advertising