Terrains (~Work In Progress~)

[Binsu]

Terrain WiPs

By:

Hell_Master

I am Hell_Master showing some Terrain WiPs of mine and also some finish ones but I dont have yet..... Yes, some of you know that I have also make another thread here about some Showcase but I request for the close of it because of the bad terrains.... so now my Terrains will be here, my Terrain WiPs and finished ones if I have!

Here, I will be showing some Work in progress terrain of mine and finished one involving different places of course. So enough with this and let me show my Work In progress!

Bandit Camp [10]:

WiP 1

WiP 2

WiP 3

Feedbacks are appreciated here. And will try my best to improve it! Just dont leave like negative much feedbacks that doesnt even help at all.

 

[MasterTrainer]

Bandit camp huh? It looks a little too calm and peaceful for a camp settled by ruthless bandits. Darken the tone of the environment, try to replace those trees with something that says 'bandits have been here', oh and add more props.

Good job! I give it a 3/5 for now.

 

[Binsu]

Bandit camp huh? It looks a little too calm and peaceful for a camp settled by ruthless bandits. Darken the tone of the environment, try to replace those trees with something that says 'bandits have been here', oh and add more props.

Good job! I give it a 3/5 for now.

You can give me some props to put, some example doodads maybe. Yeah, I did notiiced its quite calm. I will be fixing the terrain again. Thanks for the feedback, matey!

 

[MasterTrainer]

I can't give anything yet because of the happiness of your terrain. Crush that.

 

[Binsu]

I can't give anything yet because of the happiness of your terrain. Crush that.

Added a new screenshot with changes in the weather, time of day and added some new doodads.

Later, I'll add maybe some Heads on Spears, Skull Piles and such...

 

[MasterTrainer]

Okay I was thinking purple fog, and thicker, more dead trees.

 

[Binsu]

Okay I was thinking purple fog, and thicker, more dead trees.

I made changes on the fog. For the Trees, shall I replace the trees with Dead or not all but mixing them?

 

[Doomlord]

Okay I am no terrain expert but from my perspective if you intend to create a bandit camp that gives off a vicious aura, you may want to try darken the ground a bit more and change the tree slightly. Try and go with thick patches of tree rather than separate, lone trees. I think that is better.

On a side note, your sunshine bandit camp from before feels like a school camping trip with costumed people around.

No rating because I honestly don't know how.

 

[MasterTrainer]

Maybe trees with a dark tint. Not necessarily dead.

 

[Binsu]

Okay I am no terrain expert but from my perspective if you intend to create a bandit camp that gives off a vicious aura, you may want to try darken the ground a bit more and change the tree a bit. Try and go with thick patches of tree rather than separate, lone trees. I think that is better.

On a side note, your sunshine bandit camp from before feels like a school camping trip with costumed people around.

No rating because I honestly don't know how.

Thanks for the feedback. Im gonna go search for more fitting trees.

I already changed the mood of the terrain and it is not that bright anymore.

Maybe trees with a dark tint. Not necessarily dead.

Maybe you can give me some example trees here?

 

[MasterTrainer]

You can easily change their tint (Red, Blue, Green) in the Object Editor. Explore the Art - fields.

 

[Binsu]

You can easily change their tint (Red, Blue, Green) in the Object Editor. Explore the Art - fields.

Done! Changed Tint to (100,100,100) and it looks much better.

 

[MasterTrainer]

If you would also, use more dirt on the ground, and some rocks would look nicely too.

 

[Binsu]

If you would also, use more dirt on the ground, and some rocks would look nicely too.

For the dirt, I quite tested it and it turned out badly.... for the rocks, oh yes, basic doodads. Okay will do then!

 

[MasterTrainer]

Add more than 1 variation of the dirt. Because grassy on the bandit encampment... eh uhm not feeling it bro.

 

[Binsu]

Add more than 1 variation of the dirt. Because grassy on the bandit encampment... eh uhm not feeling it bro.

Dirt tiles, you mean? Where should I mix it with, Stone path or in the grasses?

Also, added a new screenshot!

 

[Strydhaizer]

you should mix dirt to grasses
second , dont take screenshots in boundaries
third , dont unselect / deselect the camera when taking screenshots
fourth uhm , flat? its so flat
fifth , i suggest this models for you
http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/...hrower-209650/?prev=search=bandit&d=list&r=20
http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/models-530/mounted-bandit-231407/?prev=search=bandit&d=list&r=20
http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/...bowman-215822/?prev=search=bandit&d=list&r=20

This is just a suggestion ^_^

 

[Binsu]

you should mix dirt to grasses
second , dont take screenshots in boundaries
third , dont unselect / deselect the camera when taking screenshots
fourth uhm , flat? its so flat
fifth , i suggest this models for you
http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/...hrower-209650/?prev=search=bandit&d=list&r=20
http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/models-530/mounted-bandit-231407/?prev=search=bandit&d=list&r=20
http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/...bowman-215822/?prev=search=bandit&d=list&r=20

This is just a suggestion ^_^

Thanks for the feedback, will do so. =)

But I think camera in Boundaries cant be avoided because I made my terrain near at the boundary XD

 

[MasterTrainer]

Then just do a closeup screenshot.

 

[Binsu]

Added a new screenshot.

 

[Strydhaizer]

Expand your terrain , it will move your boundaries

 

[MasterTrainer]

The light blue sky does not fit with the purple fog, and so does the grass and rock. Add some dirt please.

 

[Binsu]

Expand your terrain , it will move your boundaries

I might but I might also do a new terrain, not invovlving Bandit Camp. That is why I dont want too much space consumed in the map.

The light blue sky does not fit with the purple fog, and so does the grass and rock. Add some dirt please.

Actually, I added some dirt. Look for the new screenie. And for the sky, what color do you prefer to match with the rocks, grasses and such?

 

[MasterTrainer]

You can just shrink it back to it's original size later. Just don't take screenshots near boundaries. Also, either you change the skies or change the fog, and add more dirt along the grass and rock.

 

[Binsu]

You can just shrink it back to it's original size later. Just don't take screenshots near boundaries. Also, either you change the skies or change the fog, and add more dirt along the grass and rock.

Tried adding dirt in the rock tile and it looks very bad, trust me.

 

[MasterTrainer]

Show us.

 

[Binsu]

Show us.

See here:

Show

The rock tile doesnt blend much with the rock tile but in the grass, it looks fine and decent.

By the way, I didnt use Rough Dirt because I made it as the Rock's texture.

 

[MasterTrainer]

Remove that cobble-tile thing completely. Only work with grass and dirt first.

 

[Binsu]

Remove that cobble-tile thing completely. Only work with grass and dirt first.

Done!

 

[MasterTrainer]

Ok next instead of that light dirt look for a dark variation of that dirt, I think one was in a Dalaran tileset. Because it is raining so you should create the illusion that the ground is getting wet too.

 

[Drunken_Jackal]

That rock path is too wide, make it a bit more narrow, say 1-2 tiles in width. Plus, don't place the dirt at the middle of the path, but at its sides rather. The cliff tile could be changed to a more pretty one, say the one in Village and should be less smooth, imo. The grass tile needs well, more grass (as in doodads). Plus, add some variation in the grass, maybe some dirt (need a better dirt tile), etc. Add some height to it as well, leave no tile not raised/lowered (just even by a few clicks). Trees should be replaced and other low quality doodads. Also, the fence, make it a bit smaller.

Also, it doesn't look like a bandit camp that much. Generally, you should have most of the cages packed in one fenced area and the tents at another. The archery practice doodads should also be nearby the tents. Also, the stick with skulls should be set near the entrance of the camp, to warn wary travelers. Logs should be ditched since they are not a lumber camp.

Lastly, purple fog is ugly, change it to maybe a light blue, morning one or maybe a white one. Thats my opinions on these at least. Also, you don't need 7 pictures for one place. Just pick a good enough angle.

 

[Binsu]

That rock path is too wide, make it a bit more narrow, say 1-2 tiles in width. Plus, don't place the dirt at the middle of the path, but at its sides rather. The cliff tile could be changed to a more pretty one, say the one in Village and should be less smooth, imo. The grass tile needs well, more grass (as in doodads). Plus, add some variation in the grass, maybe some dirt (need a better dirt tile), etc. Add some height to it as well, leave no tile not raised/lowered (just even by a few clicks). Trees should be replaced and other low quality doodads. Also, the fence, make it a bit smaller.

Also, it doesn't look like a bandit camp that much. Generally, you should have most of the cages packed in one fenced area and the tents at another. The archery practice doodads should also be nearby the tents. Also, the stick with skulls should be set near the entrance of the camp, to warn wary travelers. Logs should be ditched since they are not a lumber camp.

Lastly, purple fog is ugly, change it to maybe a light blue, morning one or maybe a white one. Thats my opinions on these at least. Also, you don't need 7 pictures for one place. Just pick a good enough angle.

I have really been waiting for a great and thorough feedback like this. Thank you very much. Will do so and +4 REP to you!

And still I cant REP people.....

 

[Sir_Astral]

Very nice tiles you got there

 

[Binsu]

Very nice tiles you got there

Thank you, good sir. They are just here in Hive if you are gonna search =)

 

[Strydhaizer]

Another suggestion , you can use palisade walls for it that using HQ tower and fences like that

http://www.wc3c.net/showthread.php?t=88797

 

[Binsu]

Another suggestion , you can use palisade walls for it that using HQ tower and fences like that

http://www.wc3c.net/showthread.php?t=88797

Ah, I have been finding a good quality wall like this! Thank you very much for linking this. Not only with my terraining it will be helpful but in my projects too XD

+4 REP bro!

 

[Drunken_Jackal]

If you want to include those walls and the watch tower, I suggest you expand the camp a little. Make it larger.

 

[Binsu]

If you want to include those walls and the watch tower, I suggest you expand the camp a little. Make it larger.

Now many is sugesting me to make it big, ok. Will do, guys!

 

[Strydhaizer]

Now many is sugesting me to make it big, ok. Will do, guys!

i told you , the shadow boundaries are too near, just add some pathing blockers

*To save pathing blockers count, use forgotten one's pathing*

 

[DESTROYER123]

Looks a bit empty but I guess you won't leave it like that

 

[fladdermasken]

Is this intended as terrain art or playable terrain?

 

[Binsu]

Is this intended as terrain art or playable terrain?

Not really a playable one, just some random stuffs I am doing.

Looks a bit empty but I guess you won't leave it like that

Acually its not that empty with those doodads used in the WiP 2 but surely I will not leave it empty. =)

i told you , the shadow boundaries are too near, just add some pathing blockers

*To save pathing blockers count, use forgotten one's pathing*

Will do but when I expand the camp more, maybe I will not take screenshots near the boundaries.

 

[Binsu]

Added a new screenshot on WiP 3 with expanded bandit Camp, more doodads and not so flat environment. But I did removed fog effect because it kinds of does not fit and still thinking of a replacement.

 

[MasterTrainer]

Wow you've done so much since the last time I was here.

Good job on the terrain! It looks more realistic now.

 

[Binsu]

Wow you've done so much since the last time I was here.

Good job on the terrain! It looks more realistic now.

Thank you so much, I am now studying on enhancing the skies as what fladder's tutorial said. =)

 

[Sin'dorei300]

The terrain tiles are clashing with wc3 doodads and the edge of the map can be seen. It's kinda flat and the trees are lacking variation + aren't placed that properly.
Also, it's a bit too common, and more details wouldn't hurt.

 

[Binsu]

The terrain tiles are clashing with wc3 doodads and the edge of the map can be seen. It's kinda flat and the trees are lacking variation + aren't placed that properly.
Also, it's a bit too common, and more details wouldn't hurt.

Mind giving some tips on what doodads to add? And for the doodads, I will see to it if I can find some doodads that will best fit with the tiles. For the flatness,I do know I raised all the parts, I'll maybe show later or tommorow a screenhot proving its not that flat. For the trees, what do you mean by variation? Different ppearance in the trees? For the pacement, I'll see what I can do to fix that. Lastly, for details, of course will do sir!

Thanks for the feedback. Means a lot =)

 

[MasterTrainer]

It's going to be hard suggesting doodads, but I can give you keywords:

Bandits, wood, I forgot the others.

 

[Binsu]

Added a new terrain screenshot about me experimenting adding Clouds into the skies and it turned out good. Here is the screenshot:

Click!

Feedbacks are appreciated and just one favor, can someone suggest me a replacement for those Pile of Treasures, Cages and such. Better if you can give me a better quality of that doodads to blend well with the tiles.

If anyone can also suggest me a sky image showing it is night so I can maybe put some additional Doodads such as maybe a Moon. Thanks

This will be also posted at my first post as WiP 3 still!

 

[Strydhaizer]

The sky? What happened to the sky sir? I suggest a Generic Sky ^_^
Hmmm , about the dirt rough? uhm .... will tell it to you next time ^_^
Now , add some grasses
http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/models-530/grassanimated-224313/?prev=search=grass&d=list&r=20